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MaTH716 12-12-2011 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 824389)
all Tebow does is credit his teammates and say that his teammates make him look better than he does. Its the media that piles it all on Tebow.

Prater deserves the game ball for this one. and Tebow was not nearly as bad as his first 3 quarter stats look. At least 5 passes bounced right off the recievers hands. one would have been a very long TD pass. His WR's looked totally inept the first 3 Q's.. but to their credit, they and the whole team come through in the clutch. Tebow did have a good 5-10 passes that missed the target by like 10 yards... but in that 0-11 stretch in the game, there were 4 or 5 obvious drops.

I dont get why people hate on Tebow unless they are a Raider/Chiefs/Chargers fan. all the guy does is come through when it counts.
I really don't see all the hate that everyone is talking about. I just feel that the media who is doing cartwheels over the guy, should give a little more mention to the rest of the team (who has done a tremendous during this run as well)
Obviously, you can't argue with the fact that they are 6-0 with him as a starter. It's been said countless times, the guy is a trendous competitor and is getting it done. It really is a great feel good story. But just because people try to keep things in perspective, doesn't automatically make them a hater.

Calzone Lord 12-12-2011 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 824395)
Obviously, you can't argue with the fact that they are 6-0 with him as a starter.
He started against the Lions.

They lost 45-10.

I also think he was 1-2 as a starter last year.

Antitrust32 12-12-2011 08:32 AM
dude is 7-1 as a starter and all you guys can come up with is that the first half isnt pretty and apparently all 7 NFL teams he and the Broncos beat all suck. eventhough 3 of those teams are still in the mix for the playoffs.

Its all BS. If he played for the Pats you'd be on your knees for him. Who cares that he's loves jesus? at least he's actually genuine about it and backs up his words with deeds.

Antitrust32 12-12-2011 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 824395)
I really don't see all the hate that everyone is talking about. I just feel that the media who is doing cartwheels over the guy, should give a little more mention to the rest of the team (who has done a tremendous during this run as well)
Obviously, you can't argue with the fact that they are 6-0 with him as a starter. It's been said countless times, the guy is a trendous competitor and is getting it done. It really is a great feel good story. But just because people try to keep things in perspective, doesn't automatically make them a hater.
the media talks about tebow non stop. But everyone I've heard gives just as much or more credit to the defense, coaches, Prater, etc. They just make tebow the headline of it and talk about him more because he brings in the ratings and $$. But the rest of the team is still getting credit.

Danzig 12-12-2011 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 824394)
Because he sucks and he's an annoying Christer.

The Caleb Hainne/Marion Barber Bears just lost at home to the Tyler Palko Chiefs last week.

He needed a miracle to beat the 2-10 Vikings two weeks ago.

He's played two OK teams -- the Detroit Lions beat him 45-to-10. The Jets got Sanchez'ed when they had the game in hand.

If Tim Tebow was Tebowing to Allah no one would be calling him a winner. It would be how the Broncos are winning despite the fact that the terrorist quarterback sucks.
well, can't argue with any of that!

yeah, i know he gets a lot of attention, but is anyone really calling him a good qb? denver is no world beater, but to watch the 4th q's of these games has been hilarious.

Danzig 12-12-2011 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 824395)
I really don't see all the hate that everyone is talking about. I just feel that the media who is doing cartwheels over the guy, should give a little more mention to the rest of the team (who has done a tremendous during this run as well)
Obviously, you can't argue with the fact that they are 6-0 with him as a starter. It's been said countless times, the guy is a trendous competitor and is getting it done. It really is a great feel good story. But just because people try to keep things in perspective, doesn't automatically make them a hater.
i don't see hate from anyone either. that's got to be one of the most misused words on this site.

Antitrust32 12-12-2011 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 824402)
i don't see hate from anyone either. that's got to be one of the most misused words on this site.
I'm sorry but a lot of posters keeps saying that he's beat 7 crappy teams. If giving a guy crap because he keeps winning isnt being a hater, I dont know what is. you know better than that.

Calzone Lord 12-12-2011 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 824397)
Its all BS. If he played for the Pats you'd be on your knees for him.
I root against the Pats.

I am not loyal to cities, logos, or Gods. Just Randy Moss.

Calzone Lord 12-12-2011 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 824401)
but to watch the 4th q's of these games has been hilarious.
Watching the first 3 quarters of these games is hard.

The Jets game VS the Tebow's was one of the ugliest games to watch I've ever seen. The only two TD's in the first 3 and a half quarters were scored by a guard from Nebraska on a fumble recovery and a defensive back from the Tebow's on a Sanchez interception return.

If they showed the first 3.5 quarters of yesterday's game to Terrorists in Guantonimo Bay ... it would be a greater form of torture than waterboarding.

It's horrible football at the skill positions. Good stuff if you like watching offensive lines battle defensive fronts.

Antitrust32 12-12-2011 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 824405)
I root against the Pats.

I am not loyal to cities, logos, or Gods. Just Randy Moss.
at least you are true to yourself!

horseofcourse 12-12-2011 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 824409)
Watching the first 3 quarters of these games is hard.

The Jets game VS the Tebow's was one of the ugliest games to watch I've ever seen. The only two TD's in the first 3 and a half quarters were scored by a guard from Nebraska on a fumble recovery and a defensive back from the Tebow's on a Sanchez interception return.

If they showed the first 3.5 quarters of yesterday's game to Terrorists in Guantonimo Bay ... it would be a greater form of torture than waterboarding.

It's horrible football at the skill positions. Good stuff if you like watching offensive lines battle defensive fronts.
In the end, you have to look at everything. It could have easily been 10-0 Denver at half time...Prater had a chip shot blocked and Thomas dropped a wide open touchdown pass. Then all of a sudden his first 3 quarters don't look all that bad. Of course some bad things from him the first 3 too. He's not great and this may be the peak of his career, but I think he's played fine.

Antitrust32 12-12-2011 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 824414)
In the end, you have to look at everything. It could have easily been 10-0 Denver at half time...Prater had a chip shot blocked and Thomas dropped a wide open touchdown pass. Then all of a sudden his first 3 quarters don't look all that bad. Of course some bad things from him the first 3 too. He's not great and this may be the peak of his career, but I think he's played fine.
exactly. A lot of people just look at the stat line and make assumptions. Granted, Tebow missed the broad side of a barn on a lot of throws in the first 3 quarters.. but there were at least 5 terrible drops and 10 points that should have been on the board.

It happens to both teams though.. evens out. Just look at the former Cowgirl running back.

King Glorious 12-12-2011 09:36 AM
The 3-16 start was horrible.
The 18-24 finish was not horrible.
7-1 is not debatable.

Does he get to much credit? Perhaps. But that comes with the territory for being an NFL quarterback. You are the star. You date supernodels.

Seattleallstar 12-12-2011 09:54 AM
will Tebow magic end next week vs New England, it would be a hoot if it became a shootout. Tebow throwing for 400 yards and 4 td's..lol vs Brady doing the same.

Danzig 12-12-2011 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 824403)
I'm sorry but a lot of posters keeps saying that he's beat 7 crappy teams. If giving a guy crap because he keeps winning isnt being a hater, I dont know what is. you know better than that.
well, are they crappy teams? i don't think they are hating on him, i think they're just trying to keep things in perspective. yes, they've had some nice come from behind wins-but you have to take the oppostion into consideration. and of course the whipping detroit meted out is something you have to remember as well.
it's like rapid redux, everyone knows what he's done-but he's no hoy candidate just because he has a record win streak.

Danzig 12-12-2011 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 824409)
Watching the first 3 quarters of these games is hard.

The Jets game VS the Tebow's was one of the ugliest games to watch I've ever seen. The only two TD's in the first 3 and a half quarters were scored by a guard from Nebraska on a fumble recovery and a defensive back from the Tebow's on a Sanchez interception return.

If they showed the first 3.5 quarters of yesterday's game to Terrorists in Guantonimo Bay ... it would be a greater form of torture than waterboarding.

It's horrible football at the skill positions. Good stuff if you like watching offensive lines battle defensive fronts.
we have nfl red zone, i recommend it!

Antitrust32 12-12-2011 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 824430)
it's like rapid redux, everyone knows what he's done-but he's no hoy candidate just because he has a record win streak.
thats probably the worst comparison I've ever heard! this is the fucl<ing NFL, the polar opposite of claiming ranks. At least DrugS Zenyatta comparison made some sense.

3 of the teams he beat are in playoff contention! So no, that arguement is pure bullshit.

Dahoss 12-12-2011 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 824394)
Because he sucks and he's an annoying Christer.

The Caleb Hainne/Marion Barber Bears just lost at home to the Tyler Palko Chiefs last week.

He needed a miracle to beat the 2-10 Vikings two weeks ago.

He's played two OK teams -- the Detroit Lions beat him 45-to-10. The Jets got Sanchez'ed when they had the game in hand.

If Tim Tebow was Tebowing to Allah no one would be calling him a winner. It would be how the Broncos are winning despite the fact that the terrorist quarterback sucks.
Pretty much summed it up here.

Dahoss 12-12-2011 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 824391)
He put on a superb performance in the 4th quarter and overtime.

The first three quarters were mistake filled and defense dominant by both teams.

who cares that he only gets in done in the 4th quarter.. that's when it actually matters. You can't say that about a lot of more talented players in the league. Tebow has the most 4th quarter passing yards than anyone in the league since week 7. That's impressive.
I'm not being mean, I am curious...did you watch the entire game?

Antitrust32 12-12-2011 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 824442)
I'm not being mean, I am curious...did you watch the entire game?
every second of it.. I have the NFL package and the eagles game was at one. did you watch the entire game?


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