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Bigsmc 02-07-2008 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
except the seating...and i was there last time..betting was a mess..and it was cold..

I agree with everything you said, but I think your enjoyment of a venue is a function of where your seats are.

I was stuck in the temporary bleachers at the top of the Clubhouse turn at AP and was miserable.

This year I was banished beyond the 3/16th pole at Monmouth sitting on the tarmac in a wooden folding outdoor wedding chair, so with no elevation, I couldn't see 3/4 of the track and the rain....oh, the rain. Others loved the venue. What was the difference? They had decent seats, under cover and high enough to see the whole track.

I have been to nine BC's and I have had such crappy luck with seats over the years and after the misery of Monmouth, I vowed to never attend another BC.

philcski 02-07-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by deltagulf
well why a track like the fair grounds can't hold it. plenty of hotel rooms and great food and entertainment.also weather is good in october down here.

also a dirt track.

Should have already been there. Never been to FG but certainly seems like it's fit to host the BC.

The Bid 02-07-2008 02:58 PM

Maybe Santa Anita should just be concerned with running a race, let alone a Breeders Cup race. Disgrace

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-07-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
I agree with everything you said, but I think your enjoyment of a venue is a function of where your seats are.

I was stuck in the temporary bleachers at the top of the Clubhouse turn at AP and was miserable.

This year I was banished beyond the 3/16th pole at Monmouth sitting on the tarmac in a wooden folding outdoor wedding chair, so with no elevation, I couldn't see 3/4 of the track and the rain....oh, the rain. Others loved the venue. What was the difference? They had decent seats, under cover and high enough to see the whole track.

I have been to nine BC's and I have had such crappy luck with seats over the years and after the misery of Monmouth, I vowed to never attend another BC.

the bc was great at churchill..arl was ok but as we talked about cold..
seats and the weather make huge diff

Alan07 02-07-2008 04:05 PM

Nov 6-7 2009

deltagulf 02-07-2008 04:13 PM

its offical cup
 
back to back breeders cup that sucks.http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/nat...n-in-2009.aspx

whodey17 02-07-2008 04:17 PM

I dont think this is a bad idea at all.

2 Dollar Bill 02-07-2008 04:23 PM

Will they have the track ready for 2009 ? :D

Scav 02-07-2008 04:25 PM

Just blow up the sport now

fpsoxfan 02-07-2008 04:38 PM

I guess I really don't understand the reasoning behind this. Weather? All-Weather track? It's just strange? Where's the outrage from NYRA, Churchill Downs, etc. etc.? What happens if the 2008 edition sucks? Risky play here.

Swale84 02-07-2008 04:41 PM

Thanks to the NYRA-Joe Bruno impass and franchise concerns, I don't think Belmont was even considered

King Glorious 02-07-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KY_Sasquash
I don't like the BC being run over the synthetic surfaces either and I don't feel like the turf races are legit b/c the turf course is so hard and short its more like running on astroturf-those courses out there made Citronnade look like a monster on the turf, which she isn't. Churchill and Belmont are the best venues to use.

The BC was held at SA in 1986, 1993, and 2003.

The winners of the Turf have been:
1986-Manila
1993-Kotashaan
2003-High Chaparral

The winners of the Mile have been:
1986-Last Tycoon
1993-Lure
2003-Six Perfections

The lone winner of the F/M Turf was:
2003-Islington

Of that group, all of those horses were proven as not only grade one level horses but also as grade one winners. Of the seven, four were European based horses. Of the 21 horses to finish in the top three in the races, eight were European based horses and several more were transplanted Europeans. I can't see a single horse on this list that was not a legit winner and with Euro's holding a 4-3 edge in winners, I don't see how anyone can say it's unfair to them.

Alan07 02-07-2008 04:47 PM

One may also wonder if NYRA may bid for each of there tracks and not just Belmont

Alan07 02-07-2008 04:52 PM

Will there be a late post? They have been talking about the LA media Market all day

2 Dollar Bill 02-07-2008 04:56 PM

What do they think it will RAIN in NJ again ?

Scav 02-07-2008 05:00 PM

It should be this (I need to be put in charge)

Rotation between....

Churchill, Belmont, Santa Anita, X

X =

Arlington, Monmouth, Lone Star, Woodbine, Somewhere in Europe (maybe), Dubai (Maybe)...Hialeah (if restored), and I can't think of any others.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-07-2008 05:06 PM

the bc should call it quits..thay have pimped out the fans ..now its 2 days..ect ect ect........pretty bad ..its better for the fans and players if they move it every year..imo..wile i may not go to nj i would go to church..you know what i mean.. keeping it static is a bad idea......

brockguy 02-07-2008 05:11 PM

Im happy.. 2 LA holidays in 2 years - warm weather etc.. i just hope that this year is a success. otherwise, it will be a long wait until 2010..

Scav 02-07-2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
the bc should call it quits..thay have pimped out the fans ..now its 2 days..ect ect ect........pretty bad ..its better for the fans and players if they move it every year..imo..wile i may not go to nj i would go to church..you know what i mean.. keeping it static is a bad idea......

You are right, it is retarded.

Why is it that this industry can not do anything to MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY and just do things that piss people off, some of the list

1) Same BC Site
2) Past posting/outdated mutual systems
3) Same saddle cloths on day where they are 40 horses in one race
4) ADW fiasco
5) Takeout fiasco
6) Drugs fiasco
7) Not making safe tracks to begin with and then going synethic on a whim

Feel free to add any more to this list

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-07-2008 05:15 PM

and i have a feeling holding on poly two years in a row is a feather in the poly companys hat............little cash under the table..eh


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