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hockey2315 08-17-2010 02:55 PM

I don't know much about that euro, so I'll have to wait for the PP's on him. The 2 is semi-live at a price.

Scav 08-17-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 684179)
So then who beats him? Or is he unbeatable in this spot?

The Irish one says Wigmore Hall is gonna run huge. It screws up my plans because that makes him an auto use for me, two deep, Wigmore Hall and Paddy O Prado

Scav 08-17-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 684139)
The remainder of the Million Day card will be drawn on Wednesday.

Which probably will be miserable, unless they use this 2 year old race then life will be great! :)

Scav 08-17-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 684178)
Paddy isn't unbeatable, but there's no chance that Working for Hops beats him in a fairly run race.

Hops is gonna struggle to even run third in this race. All eyes, literally, will be on him. ;)

RockHardTen1985 08-17-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 684188)
Which probably will be miserable, unless they use this 2 year old race then life will be great! :)



What 2yr old race do you speak of Thomas?

Scav 08-17-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 684193)
What 2yr old race do you speak of Thomas?

:zz:

You get no answer

CSC 08-17-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 684168)
So Attfield is 0 for his last 17 in GI races. He also has a positive ROI on the turf over the last five years by a large margin. 98-526 with an ROI of $2.41, that's phenomenal with that kind of sample size.

NT

Was Alydeed his last grade 1 winner? I remember Talkin Man winning the Wood Memorial but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a grade 1 then. He does well with what he has, no argument there, but his horses almost always seem to be short of grade 1 caliber.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-17-2010 03:42 PM

Perfect Soul.

Bigsmc 08-17-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 684193)
What 2yr old race do you speak of Thomas?

One that will be horrible, miserable and suck.

Clip-Clop 08-17-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 684168)
So Attfield is 0 for his last 17 in GI races. He also has a positive ROI on the turf over the last five years by a large margin. 98-526 with an ROI of $2.41, that's phenomenal with that kind of sample size.

NT

His numbers in these races are not great, I get that. Just thinking the horse will run well, like Ramon too. I will be betting her, for sure. Not enough to affect the odds though.

RockHardTen1985 08-17-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 684197)
:zz:

You get no answer


Pleaseeee Thomas, talk to Joey.

CSC 08-17-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 684212)
His numbers in these races are not great, I get that. Just thinking the horse will run well, like Ramon too. I will be betting her, for sure. Not enough to affect the odds though.

In the Dance Smartly she seemed like she was always going to get up but Mekong Melody another Attfield horse held on, the turf course there can be misleading. There is a big misconception that stretch runners have an inordinate advantage on the long stretch. Jambalaya never ran as well on that course as he did at GP and yes Arlington Park. If there is an angle at work for you maybe this is it and she will improve at AP. Still she won't get a nickle from me.

Clip-Clop 08-17-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 684168)
So Attfield is 0 for his last 17 in GI races. He also has a positive ROI on the turf over the last five years by a large margin. 98-526 with an ROI of $2.41, that's phenomenal with that kind of sample size.

NT

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 684222)
In the Dance Smartly she seemed like she was always going to get up but Mekong Melody another Attfield horse held on, the turf course there can be misleading. There is a big misconception that stretch runners have an inordinate advantage on the long stretch. Jambalaya never ran as well on that course as he did at GP and yes Arlington Park. If there is an angle at work for you maybe this is it and she will improve at AP. Still she won't get a nickle from me.

Kinda what I was hoping for. Who will be getting your nickels that I am hoping will become my nickels?

CSC 08-17-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 684225)
Kinda what I was hoping for. Who will be getting your nickels that I am hoping will become my nickels?

I've had some goodluck with Euro's throughout the years, that's probably where I am leaning for the Million/Bev D.

Indian Charlie 08-17-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 684198)
I remember Talkin Man winning the Wood Memorial but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a grade 1 then.

The last time the Wood wasn't g1 was when they didn't have gradings for stakes.

parsixfarms 08-17-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 684234)
The last time the Wood wasn't g1 was when they didn't have gradings for stakes.

The Wood was a grade II from 1995-2001, which would include the victory by Talkin Man in 1995.

CSC 08-17-2010 08:55 PM

His win in the Grade 2 Gotham over Dahoss was even more impressive one race before the Wood, with Smith aboard. No doubt it was one of the reasons why he chose TM over Thunder Gulch. I thought it was prophetic how Lukas referred to him as Walkin Man leading up to that derby. TG was able to back up Lukas' trash talk.

GBBob 08-17-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 684214)
Pleaseeee Thomas, talk to Joey.

We are hoping they use this race

SUBSTITUTE RACE NO 1 ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING S1 Purse $41,480. (Includes $10,980 from the I.O.A. for ICF) For Fillies Two
Years Old Which Have Never Won $8,800 Once Other Than Maiden,
Claiming, Starter, Or State Bred Or Have Never Won Two Races Or
Claiming Price $50,000. (Condition Eligibility)
Weight 120 lbs.
Non-winners Of A Race Since July 21 3 lbs.
Claiming Price $50,000
(Races Where Entered For $35,000 Or Less Not Considered)

johnny pinwheel 08-17-2010 11:18 PM

hot cha cha is as honest as they can be......i'll take a stab at 6-1.

RockHardTen1985 08-18-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 684376)
We are hoping they use this race

SUBSTITUTE RACE NO 1 ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING S1 Purse $41,480. (Includes $10,980 from the I.O.A. for ICF) For Fillies Two
Years Old Which Have Never Won $8,800 Once Other Than Maiden,
Claiming, Starter, Or State Bred Or Have Never Won Two Races Or
Claiming Price $50,000. (Condition Eligibility)
Weight 120 lbs.
Non-winners Of A Race Since July 21 3 lbs.
Claiming Price $50,000
(Races Where Entered For $35,000 Or Less Not Considered)


If they do, Good Luck to you guys.


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