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Thunder Gulch 10-18-2010 09:25 AM

He is the fastest horse in the race. Everyone questions the last 1/8th and that may indeed prove to be his undoing, but I give him a big shot.

johnny pinwheel 10-18-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 708292)
He is the fastest horse in the race. Everyone questions the last 1/8th and that may indeed prove to be his undoing, but I give him a big shot.

i agree, the last 50 yards could be it...but he could find himself with slow fractions and get brave. speed is always a threat, haynesfield just proved it. but, i don't agree with the original thread. what are looking at lucky's issues????? he wins too much???? don't get it, i think LAL will be overlooked a little. hes pretty much the only 3 yo that belongs with these unless a foreign entity arrives.

ArlJim78 10-18-2010 09:48 AM

I'm not high on QR for the classic. As others have mentioned, his last race did not inspire confidence, especially with the way Blame came back last time. Considering the quality and size of the field, the distance, and the presence of other speeds, I don't see how he gets such an easy trip that he can also carry his speed for that extra furlong.

Travis Stone 10-18-2010 10:11 AM

Unless significant defections occur, I see no chance Quality Road is lone speed.... unless lone speed is a one length lead going 22 change, 44 change... and him getting 10 furlongs short of a bias going that fast against this group? I don't see it.

tjfla 10-18-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 708308)
Unless significant defections occur, I see no chance Quality Road is lone speed.... unless lone speed is a one length lead going 22 change, 44 change... and him getting 10 furlongs short of a bias going that fast against this group? I don't see it.

Travis nice article u wrote-are u gonna update it some? Love to see what u think the odds will be and pace will set up like

NTamm1215 10-18-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 708310)
Travis nice article u wrote

Don't feed his ego.

RockHardTen1985 10-18-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel (Post 708295)
i agree, the last 50 yards could be it...but he could find himself with slow fractions and get brave. speed is always a threat, haynesfield just proved it. but, i don't agree with the original thread. what are looking at lucky's issues????? he wins too much???? don't get it, i think LAL will be overlooked a little. hes pretty much the only 3 yo that belongs with these unless a foreign entity arrives.


If you think the master plan is to put him on the lead your wrong. He will be stalking 3rd or 4th around the track. Then when its time to run, hopefully the push button QR is back.

Travis Stone 10-18-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 708310)
Travis nice article u wrote-are u gonna update it some? Love to see what u think the odds will be and pace will set up like

Thanks! Yes I will... and I'll even devote a section of it to ntamm1215!

Travis Stone 10-18-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 708259)
What about jocks on other horses letting QR get loose on the lead?

Not that I think QR will win, but hey, I've seen those jocks do some pretty stupid things.

Definitely a possbility, always is. I don't think I see it here though. Who is going to let Quality Road loose out there?

Based on Steve's list, here are horses with early speed and/or pressing speed...

Espoir City
Etched
First Dude
Haynesfield
Morning Line
Quality Road

... even if one or to stumble/defect, there's still plenty of gas.

2Hot4TV 10-18-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnGalt1 (Post 707986)
Not if he goes psycho at the gate.

I think Churchill Downs is a NO FLY ZONE.

2Hot4TV 10-18-2010 08:18 PM

So you dont think that the weights will make a differance going 1 1/4 miles on the dirt?

Qr will carry 126
LAL will carry 122
Z will carry 123

Quality Road has a problem with giving the 3yo LAL 4 lbs and Zenyatta gets 3lbs.

QR just might be off the board.

NTamm1215 10-18-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 708525)
So you dont think that the weights will make a differance going 1 1/4 miles on the dirt?

Qr will carry 126
LAL will carry 122
Z will carry 123

Quality Road has a problem with giving the 3yo LAL 4 lbs and Zenyatta gets 3lbs.

QR just might be off the board.

If Quality Road loses I'm confident it will have next to nothing to do with weight.

tanner12oz 10-18-2010 08:27 PM

the horse is game and has a killer instinct...he hits the board and damnit i still think he can win!

Indian Charlie 10-18-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 708531)
the horse is game and has a killer instinct...he hits the board and damnit i still think he can win!

That's the great thing about horse racing. You can backup your opinion and even profit from it!

The Indomitable DrugS 10-20-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 708437)
Definitely a possbility, always is. I don't think I see it here though. Who is going to let Quality Road loose out there?

Based on Steve's list, here are horses with early speed and/or pressing speed...

Espoir City
Etched
First Dude
Haynesfield
Morning Line
Quality Road

... even if one or to stumble/defect, there's still plenty of gas.

I don't think a fast pace will bother Quality Road ...in fact, a fast pace might bother Zenyatta a lot more than QR as counter intuitve as that sounds.

Here is what I mean ... these are two very fast paced races...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxfpmHO2_Hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34G-d...eature=related

Zenyatta absolutely crawled home over a surface notorious for lightening fast come home times the one and only time in her life when she faced a very fast pace.

Temple City is an example of what can happen when a synthetic router moves to dirt and sees a brutally fast pace.

hockey2315 10-20-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 709290)
I don't think a fast pace will bother Quality Road ...in fact, a fast pace might bother Zenyatta a lot more than QR as counter intuitve as that sounds.

Here is what I mean ... these are two very fast paced races...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxfpmHO2_Hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34G-d...eature=related

Zenyatta absolutely crawled home over a surface notorious for lightening fast come home times the one and only time in her life when she faced a very fast pace.

Temple City is an example of what can happen when a synthetic router moves to dirt and sees a brutally fast pace.

They should've taken Zenyatta down in that one.

Princess Doreen 10-21-2010 06:26 AM

I think it's between Zenyatta and Looking at Lucky.

Thunder Gulch 10-21-2010 09:28 AM

Fastest Horse in the Race

alysheba4 10-21-2010 09:39 AM

wonder what a 2 tri Q.R. / BLAME / Z.....would pay


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