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freddymo 01-30-2011 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 747402)
As of now her 3YO filly competition isn't too strong, and she can improve, but I don't buy the hype. She had the whole stretch to run down the winner, who was involved in a pretty contentious pace, and barely gained in the final sixteenth.
Doesnt that indirectly suggest that Dailed In was very good?

NTamm1215 01-30-2011 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 747402)
As of now her 3YO filly competition isn't too strong, and she can improve, but I don't buy the hype. She had the whole stretch to run down the winner, who was involved in a pretty contentious pace, and barely gained in the final sixteenth.
The 3YO fillies on the east coast are awful and that will certainly help. I was thrilled to hear Royal Delta is fine and back in training because her one maiden race was more impressive than any race Dancinginherdreams has run.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-30-2011 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 747403)
Doesnt that indirectly suggest that Dailed In was very good?
You might already know - but the raw pace fractions are very slow at GP going one-mile because of the run-up.

The Forward Gal pace was very strong - but the relationship between the two sets of fractions is a lot different than it is as most tracks.

Still - of course Dialed In ran another very good one.

Betsy 01-30-2011 07:15 PM
I love Tapit, so I like the filly, but the raves about her (like she's a Derby filly or she's a given to win the Oaks) were kind of through the roof.

freddymo 01-30-2011 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 747409)
You might already know - but the raw pace fractions are very slow at GP going one-mile because of the run-up.

The Forward Gal pace was very strong - but the relationship between the two sets of fractions is a lot different than it is as most tracks.

Still - of course Dialed In ran another very good one.
What is the BSF going to be for Machen's allowance workout? It was the slowest of the 3 races contested at that distance.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-30-2011 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 747429)
What is the BSF going to be for Machen's allowance workout? It was the slowest of the 3 races contested at that distance.
Not sure - but the other horses in that field lived in the low to mid 60's range.

Without doing one second of work - and even looking at the other times and races - probably about a 75 because he only won by 5 lengths.

Kasept 01-31-2011 04:38 AM
Dialed In: 96 Beyer

Pomeroy's Pistol: 78 Beyer

Machen: 76 Beyer


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