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hoovesupsideyourhead 05-29-2011 12:14 PM

claxia e is going to run a big one imo

ateamstupid 05-30-2011 04:30 PM

Going to be tough for any filly to beat that monster this summer.

Bigsmc 05-30-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 780293)
Going to be tough for any filly to beat that monster this summer.

Mind boggling (and too bad) that she lost at Churchill.

Congrats to Jimmy Toner.

On to The New York or perhaps the American Oaks?

NTamm1215 05-30-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 780305)
Mind boggling (and too bad) that she lost at Churchill.

Congrats to Jimmy Toner.

On to The New York or perhaps the American Oaks?

Toner is conservative so it won't happen but I'd love to see her try males in a race like the Va Derby.

ateamstupid 05-30-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 780308)
Toner is conservative so it won't happen but I'd love to see her try males in a race like the Va Derby.

I second that. What boys would she have to be afraid of? Banned?

NTamm1215 05-30-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 780310)
I second that. What boys would she have to be afraid of? Banned?

Exactly. If they don't want to go west then there's really not a race for her in NY until the Lake George. Monmouth has a Grade III in late June but that filly doesn't need to be running in G3 races. Its nice to see good, veteran trainers like Bond, Hushion, and Toner have 3 strong performances today.

blackthroatedwind 05-30-2011 08:33 PM

Two Stakes at Saratoga, Garden City, and Queen Elizabeth.

parsixfarms 05-30-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 780308)
Toner is conservative so it won't happen but I'd love to see her try males in a race like the Va Derby.

With the decline of the American Oaks, instead of putting $500K into a turf race for older males a week after the Manhattan and only a few weeks before the UN, it probably would have made more sense for Colonial to move up the Virginia Oaks to mid-June and bump the purse to $500K. Probably would have drawn a nice field.

Travis Stone 05-30-2011 08:57 PM

Big race from Tizway today.... Met Mile never fails to deliver.

Rodman really blew-up the exotics.... big payoffs despite a 3-1 winner who was well noted in a variety of spaces as the horse to bet.

Travis Stone 05-30-2011 08:59 PM

Watching Winter Memories today reminds me of Wonder Again, and when the filly/mare turf division seemed to be stacked year in and year out. Good for Toner to have another top notch turf distaffer. She was really impressive today. Two big efforts from the stakes winner this afternoon.

hockey2315 05-30-2011 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 780350)
Big race from Tizway today.... Met Mile never fails to deliver.

Rodman really blew-up the exotics.... big payoffs despite a 3-1 winner who was well noted in a variety of spaces as the horse to bet.

I really screwed that up. . . was a big fan of Rodman's a few years ago. Just didn't love his comebacker considering the slow pace.

Travis Stone 05-30-2011 09:10 PM

Memories Of Silver
 
I remember Memories Of Silver rather well. I was at Saratoga for her first two stakes wins in the Lake George, which I think was a 50k stake at the time, and the Nijana. She was undefeated at the Spa.

Travis Stone 05-30-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 780353)
I really screwed that up. . . was a big fan of Rodman's a few years ago. Just didn't love his comebacker considering the slow pace.

Not to salt the wounds, but when a 3-1 favorite wins, and 2 of the 3 spots underneath are single digit horses, the Superfecta rarely balloons to $15k on a circuit like NY. It paid a lot like a Breeders' Cup race.

Travis Stone 05-30-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 780308)
Toner is conservative so it won't happen but I'd love to see her try males in a race like the Va Derby.

He ran Memories of Silver later in her 3-year-old year I believe in the BC Mile. She ran okay too. Not that Winter Memories needs to do that too though... but it's interesting.

blackthroatedwind 05-30-2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 780355)
I remember Memories Of Silver rather well. I was at Saratoga for her first two stakes wins in the Lake George, which I think was a 50k stake at the time, and the Nijana. She was undefeated at the Spa.

The Nijana was changed to the Lake Placid.

Travis Stone 05-30-2011 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 780370)
The Nijana was changed to the Lake Placid.

Yeah... I had to look up the year, but in 1998 it flipped to the Lake Placid... Tenski won for The Mig that year.

blackthroatedwind 05-30-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 780377)
Yeah... I had to look up the year, but in 1998 it flipped to the Lake Placid... Tenski won for The Mig that year.

I saw Nijana win the Schylerville in 1975.

hockey2315 05-30-2011 11:32 PM

113 Beyer for Tizway. . .


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