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Alabama Stakes 09-18-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 998697)
It would be a monstrous blow to the American stud industry if he were whisked away to Japan.

hardly. how much did they pay for him ?

RockHardTen1985 09-18-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 998701)
hardly. how much did they pay for him ?

It was sarcasm.

Alabama Stakes 09-18-2014 11:50 AM

my bad. when you're getting things that I don't get, rockhead, it's time to smoke a little of the purple.

my miss storm cat 09-18-2014 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 998697)
It would be a monstrous blow to the American stud industry if he were whisked away to Japan.

Well someone was on quite the roll this morning... :D

Benny 09-19-2014 07:52 AM

Crist on betting Chrome
 
A bad bet, historically on Derby returnees.

http://www.drf.com/news/crist-histor...chrome-bad-bet

Dunbar 09-19-2014 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 998827)
A bad bet, historically on Derby returnees.

http://www.drf.com/news/crist-histor...chrome-bad-bet


from Crist's article: "Since 1980, six of the eight horses in his exact position – returning to the races after winning the Derby and Preakness and losing the Belmont – have lost their comeback race, most of them at short odds. "

This apparently arbitrary 1980 cutoff made me immediately think that the next one back would have been bad for the thesis. Sure enough, in 1979 Spectacular Bid came back to win the Haskell. Granted, he didn't add much to the ROI of the "return" bet.

I couldn't find out how Cananero II, the one before Spectacular Bid, had fared in his return.

--Dunbar

Port Conway Lane 09-19-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 998829)
from Crist's article: "Since 1980, six of the eight horses in his exact position – returning to the races after winning the Derby and Preakness and losing the Belmont – have lost their comeback race, most of them at short odds. "

This apparently arbitrary 1980 cutoff made me immediately think that the next one back would have been bad for the thesis. Sure enough, in 1979 Spectacular Bid came back to win the Haskell. Granted, he didn't add much to the ROI of the "return" bet.

I couldn't find out how Cananero II, the one before Spectacular Bid, had fared in his return.

--Dunbar

The Bid returned after the Belmont in an allowance race at Delaware Park, set a track record, won by 17 lengths and paid a nickel on the dollar with the Shoe on him for the first time. The Belmont winner won the Haskell. As a 4 yo he won the Amory L. Haskell H. for 3yo and up, now known as the Iselin H.

letswastemoney 09-19-2014 06:22 PM

I don't see Untapable losing.

I'm less certain of California Chrome's chances. Bayern having to endure pressure from C J's Awesome and possibly Protonico may not be signifcant, but I also could see Espinoza on Chrome deciding he should duel with Bayern rather than let him slip away.

saratogadew 09-20-2014 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 998332)
Any PA people around here and, if so, wanna volunteer to head to the track and take some of CC's nasal strips and use them to cover that imbecile owners mouth?

Thanks in advance.

A friend of mine was down at Parx yesterday. Steve Cobern and his wife were having a beer at the bar. He spoke to Steve for 20 minutes and said he couldn't have been a nicer guy. We all make mistakes in life, hopefully learn from them, and move on. Well, that's my Kum ba yah statement for this Saturday morning.

10 pnt move up 09-20-2014 12:48 PM

Is this thing on TV somewhere other than HRTV?

Thoroughbred Fan 09-20-2014 04:24 PM

Watch out for Tapiture!

Thoroughbred Fan 09-20-2014 04:50 PM

They didn't go fast enough for him to have a chance to close, but Tapiture ran well.


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