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-   -   9/27 (SA): AwsmAgn, FrntRnnr, Chndelier, Zenyatta, Rodeo Dr. (G1's) (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55251)

Rileyoriley 09-27-2014 07:00 PM

Very impressive. One tough SOB.:{>::)

Indian Charlie 09-27-2014 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 999629)
i know, i was poking fun at I.C.

I don't get it. My remark awhile back about some tracks running stakes races after famous horses, in races that don't make sense?

Indian Charlie 09-27-2014 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 999747)
Won pretty nicely.

Yeah, that was extremely impressive.

Big MOFO. It will be interesting to see how far he can go.

There were three very impressive winners on that card today.

Indian Charlie 09-27-2014 07:40 PM

Oh yeah, and about Shared Beliefs win today.

That was a pretty bush league move by Baffert and Espinoza. After that whining by Baffert about how people enter speed against Game on Dude, he basically uses Sky Kingdom today as nothing more than a tool to take Shared Belief out of the race.

Watching that, it would be hard to dispute that him floating out into the first turn was intentional. It looked like Smith and Espinoza might have been jawing at each other during the race after that happened.


Hey Bob, look up the meaning of the word hypocrite.

And no RHT, I don't want to hear your robotic response defending your hero.

I didn't think I'd ever see Baffert resort to such sour grape tactics.

ateamstupid 09-27-2014 07:41 PM

WOW. That was 10 times more impressive than his Pacific Classic win. What a monster.

outofthebox 09-27-2014 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 999828)
Oh yeah, and about Shared Beliefs win today.

That was a pretty bush league move by Baffert and Espinoza. After that whining by Baffert about how people enter speed against Game on Dude, he basically uses Sky Kingdom today as nothing more than a tool to take Shared Belief out of the race.

Watching that, it would be hard to dispute that him floating out into the first turn was intentional. It looked like Smith and Espinoza might have been jawing at each other during the race after that happened.


Hey Bob, look up the meaning of the word hypocrite.

And no RHT, I don't want to hear your robotic response defending your hero.

I didn't think I'd ever see Baffert resort to such sour grape tactics.

100% agree..Bushleague Bob. To bad SA doesn't have Trakus..Amazing effort. How about 2yo American Pharoah running faster than Beholder albeit easier trip.

pointman 09-27-2014 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outofthebox (Post 999832)
100% agree..Bushleague Bob. To bad SA doesn't have Trakus..Amazing effort. How about 2yo American Pharoah running faster than Beholder albeit easier trip.

Santa Anita does have trakus. Shared Belief ran 66 more feet than Fed Biz.

Rileyoriley 09-27-2014 08:01 PM

Congratulations to Beholder as well. Going for a repeat in the BC Distaff. If she wins, she'll join Goldikova as the only 3 time winners but she'll be the only won to do it in 2 different BC races.:)

alysheba4 09-27-2014 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 999825)
I don't get it. My remark awhile back about some tracks running stakes races after famous horses, in races that don't make sense?

no worries I.C. i thought you were sticking it to Z.....

10 pnt move up 09-27-2014 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley (Post 999835)
Congratulations to Beholder as well. Going for a repeat in the BC Distaff. If she wins, she'll join Goldikova as the only 3 time winners but she'll be the only won to do it in 2 different BC races.:)

I hope Mandella was right that was she was short for that race, I thought she ran ok but really needs to move forward off that effort.

Indian Charlie 09-27-2014 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 999839)
no worries I.C. i thought you were sticking it to Z.....

I wasn't upset or worried, just confused. I missed the joke.

10 pnt move up 09-27-2014 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 999828)
Oh yeah, and about Shared Beliefs win today.

That was a pretty bush league move by Baffert and Espinoza. After that whining by Baffert about how people enter speed against Game on Dude, he basically uses Sky Kingdom today as nothing more than a tool to take Shared Belief out of the race.

Watching that, it would be hard to dispute that him floating out into the first turn was intentional. It looked like Smith and Espinoza might have been jawing at each other during the race after that happened.


Hey Bob, look up the meaning of the word hypocrite.

And no RHT, I don't want to hear your robotic response defending your hero.

I didn't think I'd ever see Baffert resort to such sour grape tactics.

I saw it more for Espinoza wanting to beat SB for California Chromes changes but I guess the Baffert angle makes more sense.

Should be a good story on what was said after the race, look forward to hearing it.

outofthebox 09-27-2014 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 999833)
Santa Anita does have trakus. Shared Belief ran 66 more feet than Fed Biz.

a Thanks...

Kitan 09-28-2014 01:09 AM

Very impressive win. Still not convinced he'll win the Classic, however.

10 pnt move up 09-28-2014 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 999859)
Very impressive win. Still not convinced he'll win the Classic, however.

I never understand a comment like this, not picking on you.....its related to price the way I see it. I am not convinced he is going to win, he probably is something like 30-35 percent so if he is 5/2 I could see betting him but he wont be.

No horse is 100% to win a race.

casp0555 09-28-2014 07:36 AM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-awesome-again

some interesting comments inside....

"Asked if he thought he was "double-teamed" by the Baffert horses, Hollendorfer responded: "We're all big boys…It's no big deal for me. Mike will have to settle up with Victor.""

Indian Charlie 09-28-2014 08:53 AM

Might as well have said yes outright. I hope Rome dissects him on air.

Pants II 09-28-2014 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 999872)
Might as well have said yes outright. I hope Rome dissects him on air.

That wouldn't be good for Bob. His heart might not be able to take the endless trolling from clones.

Benny 09-28-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 999864)
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-awesome-again

some interesting comments inside....

"Asked if he thought he was "double-teamed" by the Baffert horses, Hollendorfer responded: "We're all big boys…It's no big deal for me. Mike will have to settle up with Victor.""

Interesting Casp, thanks for posting it. Looks like Espinosa doubled up with his CC ride last week. On that PA Derby note, I wonder why noone puts in a rabbit in Bayerns races to soften him up ? ;)

pointman 09-28-2014 11:53 AM

Per Jay Privman on Twitter, Espinoza has been called in by the stewards to explain his actions yesterday. Wonder if Baffert will be called in too.

EDIT: Privman also tweeted that he spoke to steward Tom Ward, when he asked if they were calling Espinoza in, Ward responded, "yes, and maybe Mr. Baffert too."


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