I know. I was just clarifying the situation.

He's too headstrong for his own good. Maybe he will win, he's very talented, but horses like that are poor bets at short prices.

Is this because the field is evenly matched? It seems rather so so talent wise, i wasnt really able to separate them much.

In this day and age, horses are almost never going to come into this race with more than 1 or 2 starts. With that said, this is a pretty stout group in that they all earned solid speed figures thus far, and the pair of stakes winners did so against males and in a very fast race.

The Schuylerville has had some future GI winners and some rather subpar winners. This feels like a running where the winner will end up being OK.

Who is doing the morning line at Saratoga this year ?

Hate to side with you but when i handicapped Tuesday I was hoping for 3-1 on Defiant Honor then I saw 10-1.

See... Everyone can get along. Atta boys!

I was only asking who was making it, not complaining about it. Joe rockhead is the one griping about it.

I think you're not remembering how weak on figures this race usually is. And no, it doesn't hurt that they're evenly matched and coming from all different directions. Fascinating race.

Travis Stone

Didnt you want to try and have civil educated racing talks? Im doing my part. Staying out of selections, etc..... I'm not complaining I'm saying i believe at post time there is no way Defiant Honor is even half her ML. Shes a 7-2 shot.

A lot of people like this horse so odds will come down. But looking at this field the 10-1 is a fair opening line. There are A ton stakes winners in the race that deserve to be lower odds. Sweeping Paddy is my choice in a fun event

She's a player, but she totally tripped out last time.

Sweeping Paddy's last was spectacular. I'm just concerned about her running well outside of KY.

Everyone can have Defiant Honor. I like Party Boat.

What was her excuse last time?

I also think this horse might be getting a little too much credit versus these established graded winners, and the fact that there looks to be pace in this race so i would be shocked to see her alone on an easy lead. I'm often wrong, but i feel like this race is pretty logical, 11-1.

-bt-

Dream Dancing gets away from division stalwarts La Coronel and New Money Honey finally. She owns a win from the outside post on this course (her maiden win) last year. She's had a bit of trouble/disadvantage her last 3: wide and left too much to do at Keeneland; hard held when lacking room on the far turn at Churchill; and having to challenge early in the slow pace dictated by New Money Honey in the Wonder Again.

Won't have to come out of her comfort zone again with stablemate Victory To Victory--who has a world of speed--in there to ensure a contentious pace.

That was a very tough beat...not too happy with the ride I suppose.

great call

was alive in the pick 4 to 2-6-9 in the last. :zz: