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The Bid 01-19-2007 10:57 PM

Mckee, didnt know what he was doing, thats the problem. He had no idea what he was going to do, he never does.

That horse wasnt climbing, horses came down and he almost clipped. That would have been the icing on the cake, having him clip heels. Lets go through the ride....Rush, steady, almost clip, try to settle, bounce of the rail, lose action, then finish running. What is good about that ride? Maybe I watched a different race.

stonegossard 01-19-2007 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
No, you are wrong. Any connection would have wanted that horse wrapped up after he bounced off the rail and lost action. You dont finish a race after that happens KYR, there is no reason to ride that horse out at that point.


Man....how much did you lose on this horse today?

The Bid 01-19-2007 11:06 PM

I didnt bet on the horse. hes not supposed to sprint, he had no chance to win in that spot. He was off a layoff, and had a ****** on him. I was just hoping he would get through the race in one piece. I almost considered posting before the race...Can I redboard a bad ride by Mckee? I almost said I hope Mckee doesnt do something stupid like get in trouble and hurt the horse.

smartyalex 01-19-2007 11:31 PM

THE BID.......enough already. Your "Derby" horse lost. SORRY. Don't think we'll hear Westwon in the same breath as Derby now. If you would like to question my knowledge on the industry, feel free to "PM" me!!!!!:) :) :) :) Nice choice of words.....******

The Bid 01-19-2007 11:37 PM

How about I just question you right here. Do you have any idea what you saw today during that race? If its anything short of butchery, you havent got a clue.

smartyalex 01-19-2007 11:39 PM

I'm done. Keep up the crying, buddy!!! :confused: :confused: :confused:

todko 01-20-2007 07:33 AM

Agreed that was a terrible ride -- but Lukas isn't exactly setting the world on fire either. He continually sends expensive horses that are poorly prepared into ridiculous spots. Westwon may still prove something but he's less likely under Lukas.

I never thought much of Officer Rocket. Reminds me of the space shuttle -- flies well most of the time but occasionally disintegrates in flight. He last two races coming into this latest debacle were enough cause for concern.

The winner is one to watch particularly if he tries turf or poly. That's a nice horse.

stonegossard 01-20-2007 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
I didnt bet on the horse. hes not supposed to sprint, he had no chance to win in that spot. He was off a layoff, and had a ****** on him. I was just hoping he would get through the race in one piece. I almost considered posting before the race...Can I redboard a bad ride by Mckee? I almost said I hope Mckee doesnt do something stupid like get in trouble and hurt the horse.


Hey....was a very strange/bad ride...no doubt......but you have loudly let all living species on this planet know about the ride....mission accomplished...

I really haven't been following this horse.....not sure if he is Derby material....but one thing is sure...Lukas will run the poor horse in races where he doesnt belong and most likely burn the horse out....

The Bid 01-20-2007 10:46 AM

Just stating the obvious to most racing fans.

avance2000 01-20-2007 12:10 PM

Two things seem obvious to me.

1) The ride was bad.
2) So is the horse.

The Bid 01-20-2007 12:18 PM

We are talking about the incompetence of the ride, and the incompetence of a few posters to recognize how bad the ride actually was

As far as your opinion on the horse.. you are entitled to your own opinion. Hopefully youll be proven wrong in a few weeks if hes sound enough to run back.

The Bid 01-23-2007 05:15 PM

Along the way, there were some close finishes for the barn last weekend, and some troubled trips, most notably the one experienced by Westwon, the seventh-place finisher in the $50,000 Dixieland on Friday. Westwon came into the race off a maiden win at Keeneland.

"I thought Westwon got a really rough trip the other day in the stakes," said Lukas. "That's a nice horse, and I think he'll show that when he goes two turns. He got in trouble two or three times in that race."

Heres the comment from the DRF what a surprise.


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