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Seattleallstar 02-19-2007 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
What do you consider "young?"

Any guy younger than 35 is young to me. I've met a few guys younger than that who I would consider mature, but not many.


thats not what you said last night baby

Gander 02-19-2007 04:35 PM

Trust me Randall, put up with the immaturity for as long as you can still bag young chicks, its worth it. Theres going to come a day when you cant get the young ones to look your way. That was the day I realized how stupid it is for me to go to bars anymore. I had 10 lifetimes of fun when I was in my
20's and early 30's and wouldnt have traded it for anything.

Samarta 02-19-2007 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
She sounds like my sister! LOL (My sis is 24.)

How old are you again, Randall? For some reason, I thought you were younger than me. Kev likes older women too. :eek:

Damn and I was gonna claim dibs on Kev if we all decided to take Samm's advice....lmao....:D

Cajungator26 02-19-2007 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Samarta
Damn and I was gonna claim dibs on Kev if we all decided to take Samm's advice....lmao....:D

lmao... considering they all thought you were a chick to begin with, you had a jump start! :D

Cajungator26 02-19-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
thats not what you said last night baby

Sorry Jerry, I don't find George Clooney all that attractive, much less his filipino version. :p

randallscott35 02-19-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Trust me Randall, put up with the immaturity for as long as you can still bag young chicks, its worth it. Theres going to come a day when you cant get the young ones to look your way. That was the day I realized how stupid it is for me to go to bars anymore. I had 10 lifetimes of fun when I was in my
20's and early 30's and wouldnt have traded it for anything.

This one was big-time but the drama involved in dating someone you work with has soured me a bit with the youth. There are plenty of late-20's girls who can hold it together.

randallscott35 02-19-2007 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
1. Call me Casper.

2. I'm college educated, but I consider that an impedement in life. Just look at Sal, for instance! In all seriousness though, college is unimportant in life.

3. Is 17 considered young? I was exposed to racing in high school, and ended up spending the better part of my senior year creating ways to ditch class and go to the track. In fact, I used to run bets out to Santa Anita and Hollywood Park for a few of my teachers.

4. I spent most of my life in southern california, and then moved to southern maine. So, count me in on that one too.

5. Turning 40 this week. yay.

6. I came from the old AOL boards back when it was run/sponsored by ABC. Way back in the mid 90s.

7. I no longer bet. Given the choice of watching a horse I like lose when I bet it, or having it win when I don't bet it, I opted to just watch and let the poor thing win.

8. Not married.

Pretty close description! I had no idea I was so predictable and categorizable! Maybe I'll move to Ottomwa, Iowa, get married and work on my tan.

I kind of like sociology stuff so I was reading a book today about things like this and decided to come up with some things.

Samarta 02-19-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Trust me Randall, put up with the immaturity for as long as you can still bag young chicks, its worth it. Theres going to come a day when you cant get the young ones to look your way. That was the day I realized how stupid it is for me to go to bars anymore. I had 10 lifetimes of fun when I was in my
20's and early 30's and wouldnt have traded it for anything.

Oh I don't know about that....for some reason, there is something to be said for the mid 40's, short salt and pepper look, nice clothes, and good job that gets a lass's attention from time to time....

Samarta 02-19-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
lmao... considering they all thought you were a chick to begin with, you had a jump start! :D

lmaoooooooooooooooo, you remember that huh.....:D I think that thread is still going isn't it....

SteelKrtan 02-19-2007 05:13 PM

White ? hmmm i'm fully tattooed so i guess i can pass as coloured:rolleyes:
40 man where did the years go:cool:
university educated but too poor to go further came from the ghettos
Had absolutely nothing to do with horses actually was a bikie in a bikie club. until i meet my now wife, been together 11 years who was a jockey ,2 kids God help them if they follow us with the racing industry :( .
Love the 1 big punt $100.00 on the nose bet if i like a horse
Done 5 $1000.00 on the nose bets but man does the heart race when i have them on & that was only when i was making alot of money.
My kids come first but racing consumes my every breathing minute.
Find this the best racing site around only wish we had something like this in aussie:D

disappearingdan_akaplaya 02-19-2007 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Samm
I have a solution for the single guys who can't find a girl understanding enough to be serious with.... be GAY!! that's right boys... enjoy long afternoons with your mate, no worries about being home or that there is a "kid" on the way... you'll always have that disposible income! I think DT should start a "Find Your Handicapping Mate for Life" service!! I know what your thinking... but you don't have to dress or act like a homosexual... hell who says your relationship has to be sexual at all... just ask all the men with a woman how much sex they get... so you get a couple less which is NOTHING! lol...

ps... I don't hate gays... really! I've thought about it MANY times!:eek:


LOL no thanks ill stay straight

Danzig 02-19-2007 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I couldn't deal with my wife gambling. There's only room for one gambler in our relationship. Her god damn shopping is worse than my gambling. :D

just think pillow-you could be married to me, who gambles a bit and then buys part of a racehorse! lol
ya better go tell her how good you have it.

2Hot4TV 02-19-2007 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
just think pillow-you could be married to me, who gambles a bit and then buys part of a racehorse! lol
ya better go tell her how good you have it.

My wife and I have had a deal for 34 years, She doesn't ask how much I have lost on the ponies and I don't ask how much she has spent on shoes. Funny thing is that she always knows when I have hit a good one and finds a way for me to spend it on her. I thank my lucky stars for her every day.

GPK 02-19-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
It's easy to say a love of horse racing, but I think there is more to it than that. This could be an interesting thread for the group to comment on. Some of these you may agree with and some you surely won't.

Let me generalize about the people on this board for a moment, again these are generalizations. Here are 8 items to consider:

1. Overwhelmingly the people on this board are white, I'd put it in the 90% range. Yet when I go to the track, other than Saratoga, a good portion of the clientele are minorities.

2. Most of the people on this board are college educated, at least the ones of age who could be. I would put that number in the 80% range easy. That says something about the competency of the people here and their general work ethic outside of the hobby of horse racing.

3. Most of the people here were exposed to horse racing at an early age. While this seems obvious, I would say there are a lot of people that grow to like horse racing even if they weren't exposed to it early--but those people, to me, are less likely to have the kind of passion to seek out a message board on the subject.

4. The majority of posters on here are from the coasts, especially the east and a good portion from the Chicago area. This is anecdotal, but it says something that generally speaking the south is less well represented here. Obviously, some of the best racing comes from the areas where most posters are, but demographics play into this....The retirement crowd of Arizona and Florida are not Internet savvy, and even if they are horse racing fans, they aren't seeking out a message board to post.

5. Which leads me to age. Steve might have more stats on this but I'd say 75% of posters are between 25 and 50. Which quite honestly makes sense, but I do think the the patronage of the track is older than this on average, especially on a lonely day in March at the big A.

6. The majority of the posters came from the ESPN board, that much is true. But the new group is here by word of mouth, or through Steve's radio show. Advertising of some other kind could surely boost our numbers, but would it water down the content?...The many new friendships made on here were the result of only a few people. Speaking for myself, one of the nice things that Mike did was introduce me to Steve and Kevin. Saratoga has become a haven for these meetings, as I've been able to meet many others and strike up a friendship with Pais even though I only got to hang out with her for one single afternoon in Toga.

7. Most of the people here bet 8-10 times what a normal patron at the track will bet. I say most, especially the Selection board crowd on here. Sure there are 5$ bettors, but I'd say a good portion are betting more serious sums of money. Could be the general ability levels here and comfort with making larger wagers b/c of much more study into day to day racing. Could be we have a crowd here who are "bigger" gamblers in general. Could be we have more disposable income to be betting...don't believe it's this one by the way.

8. Most of the under 40 crowd are not married. Especially the men on here. Why is the bigger question? Maybe b/c our hobby is not conducive to meeting women, which is undoubtedly true. More likely, b/c serious gamblers do not often make good mates. I think they are less likely to want commitment and are independent types in general. Plus, handicapping, if you are serious about, is a time consuming process.

Now, how far off am I? Randall


1. Mom is black....Dad is Asian...but I am white

2. Some college education...didn't graduate....but I did complete PGA School.

3. Was not exposed to horse racing until I was 30.

4. East coast...from the 757 (Holla...)

5. 34...but my body is 74:o

6. Stumbled across ESPN on my own...where I met many people who I feel lucky to call great friends today.

7. Small bettor

8. Not married...divorced actually...and that is what drove me to get into horse racing....something to occupy my mind while going through the divorce. Been hooked ever since....*note to self....send ex-wife a thank you note*

Danzig 02-19-2007 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
My wife and I have had a deal for 34 years, She doesn't ask how much I have lost on the ponies and I don't ask how much she has spent on shoes. Funny thing is that she always knows when I have hit a good one and finds a way for me to spend it on her. I thank my lucky stars for her every day.

tony and i will celebrate 21 years next month-at oaklawn! he's a great guy, spoils me rotten, and i try my darndest to return the favor. i don't care for shopping, except maybe when i get the urge to find more books to read-i love the books! sounds like you guys have a great relationship, congrats.

but i think i do know what it is that i did that truly hooked him-a few years ago, i bought him a bass boat!

The Indomitable DrugS 02-19-2007 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
1. Overwhelmingly the people on this board are white, I'd put it in the 90% range.

I'm white.


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Originally Posted by randallscott35
2. Most of the people on this board are college educated, at least the ones of age who could be. I would put that number in the 80% range easy.

I left highschool before graduating, simply to have the needed time and focus to prepare for gambling on horses day-to-day.


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Originally Posted by randallscott35
3. Most of the people here were exposed to horse racing at an early age.

As far back as I can remember. My parents both trained horses, and rather unsuccessfully. I also have a lot of old horseowners and bettors in my family.



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Originally Posted by randallscott35
4. The majority of posters on here are from the coasts, especially the east and a good portion from the Chicago area.

Western PA.


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Originally Posted by randallscott35
5. Which leads me to age. Steve might have more stats on this but I'd say 75% of posters are between 25 and 50.

25


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Originally Posted by randallscott35
6. The majority of the posters came from the ESPN board, that much is true. But the new group is here by word of mouth, or through Steve's radio show.

Came here from Pace Advantage....a glitch in my computer led to the misfortune for you guys.


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Originally Posted by randallscott35
7. Most of the people here bet 8-10 times what a normal patron at the track will bet.

When it's your only real souce of income, until you've built up a lot of profit, you have to wager sometimes uncomfotably large sums of money.

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
8. Most of the under 40 crowd are not married. Especially the men on here. Why is the bigger question? Maybe b/c our hobby is not conducive to meeting women, which is undoubtedly true.

I am not married...and my relationships, while not always short, have ended up complete failures.

Cajungator26 02-19-2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
25


I didn't realize you were so young! :eek:

2MinsToPost 02-19-2007 07:59 PM

An escape from the reality that is called life for us working folk who pay taxes

paisjpq 02-19-2007 08:08 PM

white
college grad
nope...to this day my family doesn't get why i like horses and racing.
east coast
30:eek:
never saw the ESPN board until after I came here...can't exactly remember how I got here...might have been ATRAB
too broke most of the time to bet...if I had it though...:o
single...and likely to remain that way

GPK 02-19-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
white
college grad
nope...to this day my family doesn't get why i like horses and racing.
east coast
30:eek:
never saw the ESPN board until after I came here...can't exactly remember how I got here...might have been ATRAB
too broke most of the time to bet...if I had it though...:o
single...and likely to remain that way


which is odd, considering your utmost love and devotion to most other humans:rolleyes:

paisjpq 02-19-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
which is odd, considering your utmost love and devotion to most other humans:rolleyes:

the sadness I feel:p :D

GPK 02-19-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
the sadness I feel:p :D


sadness??? I think that may have been a belch....but not sadness:eek:

paisjpq 02-19-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Don't worry B, we can be miserable old singles together.

we'll be betting on walker and wheel chair races at the home together:D

GPK 02-19-2007 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
we'll be betting on walker and wheel chair races at the home together:D


I will book those bets...since I am the elder miserable single of the 3 of us:cool:

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-19-2007 08:22 PM

white
married
children
military...
bets ..depending on situation
made it through byk in home study...

want to be like bbb when i grow up.......

randallscott35 02-19-2007 08:31 PM

Based on the generalizations, our typical poster should look something like this.


Sightseek 02-19-2007 08:33 PM

LOL...I'd hate to see what you think the female posters look like :eek:

randallscott35 02-19-2007 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
LOL...I'd hate to see what you think the female posters look like :eek:

Give me a second I'll find something for you.

pgardn 02-19-2007 08:33 PM

1. I like analyzing athletic performances, and athletically nothing seems quite as pure as running.

2. I like numbers which hope to somehow describe a physical event and enjoy breaking down the numbers into significant and insignificant information. I enjoy watching a race and then looking at the numbers and the different ways people try to portray the event that I have witnessed.

3. I use to run a whole lot myself and tried to run very hard in races, so I feel a bit of a bond with an animal that tries to do the same without knowing exactly what he/she is supposed to do. I liked training for an event in a way in which I hoped to get maximal performance out of myself. Running distance competitively is an exercise in courage and learning how to cope with chronic pain associated with a big effort. And the horses do it for free...
This paragraph would probably put me in the weirdo group with the exception of a few on this board who know what it is like to endure significant pain while trying to perform to the best of ones physical capabilities.

4. I think it is interesting how betting money seems to give people some added reason to become interested in an athletic event. My brother and cousin are the best examples for me. I find people who wager money on athletic events much more interesting than people who wager on almost anything, including slots and cards. I like to read about how people like to put money on the outcome of certain events because they feel they have a handle on the probability involved, rather than just throwing money down and praying.

5. Most importantly... I have very few friends that actually have any interest in horse racing, so I feel somewhat an outcast. I can go to a simulcast facility, and after having read about some of the more significant races, just have a ball watching the races. For this I am considered strange. The few friends I have that will watch racing, also play the lottery, etc... which just baffles the crud out of me.

So where else to go because of my bizarre nature...

And the fact I was trained in the sciences really puts me out of bounds with many people I know well. I have an aquaintance that is a statistician for a very large scientific group here (she basically helps people analyze data for research papers) and I know she finds it sort of deviant that I would put effort into thinking about racing. She will still help me with probability questions.

I had to dump this out. Sorry I did not stay with the original profile given. This is like going to confession where I know I will be forgiven.

Everything I have posted above would indicate I should look exactly like Randall's picture but I dont.

Sightseek 02-19-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Give me a second I'll find something for you.

Really...please don't! :)

GPK 02-19-2007 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
LOL...I'd hate to see what you think the female posters look like :eek:

dont you all look like this??


Sightseek 02-19-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
dont you all look like this??

Yup, that's it! ;)

randallscott35 02-19-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Yup, that's it! ;)

In that case, I have stopped looking.

GPK 02-19-2007 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Yup, that's it! ;)

dont make me post my Starbucks picture with my Britney Spears drive through headphone speaker on....:cool:


"ooops...i did it again..."

Sightseek 02-19-2007 08:38 PM

It's funny reading all of the guys that say they are single...yet it does seem that horseracing draws a large percentage of pretty girls. Just look at the crowds at Keeneland, Saratoga & California...

randallscott35 02-19-2007 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
1. I like analyzing athletic performances, and athletically nothing seems quite as pure as running.

2. I like numbers which hope to somehow describe a physical event and enjoy breaking down the numbers into significant and insignificant information. I enjoy watching a race and then looking at the numbers and the different ways people try to portray the event that I have witnessed.

3. I use to run a whole lot myself and tried to run very hard in races, so I feel a bit of a bond with an animal that tries to do the same without knowing exactly what he/she is supposed to do. I liked training for an event in a way in which I hoped to get maximal performance out of myself. Running distance competitively is an exercise in courage and learning how to cope with chronic pain associated with a big effort. And the horses do it for free...
This paragraph would probably put me in the weirdo group with the exception of a few on this board who know what it is like to endure significant pain while trying to perform to the best of ones physical capabilities.

4. I think it is interesting how betting money seems to give people some added reason to become interested in an athletic event. My brother and cousin are the best examples for me. I find people who wager money on athletic events much more interesting than people who wager on almost anything, including slots and cards. I like to read about how people like to put money on the outcome of certain events because they feel they have a handle on the probability involved, rather than just throwing money down and praying.

5. Most importantly... I have very few friends that actually have any interest in horse racing, so I feel somewhat an outcast. I can go to a simulcast facility, and after having read about some of the more significant races, just have a ball watching the races. For this I am considered strange. The few friends I have that will watch racing, also play the lottery, etc... which just baffles the crud out of me.

So where else to go because of my bizarre nature...

And the fact I was trained in the sciences really puts me out of bounds with many people I know well. I have an aquaintance that is a statistician for a very large scientific group here (she basically helps people analyze data for research papers) and I know she finds it sort of deviant that I would put effort into thinking about racing. She will still help me with probability questions.

I had to dump this out. Sorry I did not stay with the original profile given. This is like going to confession where I know I will be forgiven.

Everything I have posted above would indicate I should look exactly like Randall's picture but I dont.

You are forgiven my son.

Sightseek 02-19-2007 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
dont make me post my Starbucks picture with my Britney Spears drive through headphone speaker on....:cool:


"ooops...i did it again..."

but can you sing "Toxic" too?


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