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Cannon Shell 02-14-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 965026)
Chance to win you're football loss back to me?? Valentines Day Massacre?? Not!! Sun Devils get it done at home on Friday night!

I totally agree on Syracuse. I feel like they can run the entire table.....no losses.

That was a ugly loss. Just gave the game away.

RockHardTen1985 02-15-2014 02:21 PM

My brother and I did our $200 future last night. He got first pick based on coin flip, I got next two.
He took Cuse, I took Witch St and Kansas and he took Duke. Obviously its more then likely no one wins, we covered 4 of about 12 teams that can win it. Its not what team goes furthest, you gotta win it all.
We did our NBA one also. We take 4 teams each in that. I knew he was on OKC and the Clippers. So I took first pick and gave him next four. I took Miami. He took OKC,LA, Indiana and Portland. I got Miami,SA, Houston and GS. The NBA bet is like free money for me. How he left Houston and SA for Portland and LA is unexplainable. Plus for a bonus I have GS, who I still believe in and am confident they will go on a run.

Cannon Shell 02-15-2014 02:38 PM

Troy Daniels should be on an NBA team

King Glorious 02-19-2014 10:39 AM

I have been wondering what you guys think of some of the top college players' chances at the NBA level. Guys like Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Smart, Embiid, Fair, Ennis, McDermott, etc.

Cannon Shell 02-19-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 966166)
I have been wondering what you guys think of some of the top college players' chances at the NBA level. Guys like Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Smart, Embiid, Fair, Ennis, McDermott, etc.

Because the mid-Atlantic has turned into Siberia this year I have seen a lot more college hoops than usual.

Wiggins is going to be a really good player, Paul George but with a lot more pressure to preform early.

Parker is a star. You hate to make the comparison but closest thing to LeBron (offensively)that we've seen. Doesnt have his lateral quickness and has been a pretty spotty defender in the games I've seen. I saw rumors where he said he would consider coming back for a second year but that would be crazy. I guess a bit shorter Lamar Odom that shoots better and probably does less drugs and wont marry a Kardashian.

Randle looks like solid PF prospect. He has offensive skill but needs polish (better coaching) and might not be in NBA shape either as he has faded a little this season. Different players but I remember that a big concern about Kevin Love coming out of college was he seemed to be out of shape in college.

I havent seen Smart play a single game so I really have no idea.

Embiid could be a monster considering he has only been playing basketball for a few years. Very raw game but the Hakeem comparisons aren't crazy. Obviously he has to develop a offensive game and understand defensive concepts but talk about potential.

I think Fair is an ok prospect but wonder about defense since they only play zone. The fact that his shooting % has dropped this year is probably a negative especially 28% on 3 point shots. Probably the next Wesley Johnson.

Ennis is a natural playmaker. IMO he has a real good chance to be a top 10 PG at some point

McDermott can be a useful NBA player on a team that doesnt depend on him to guard wings on the perimeter. Maybe on a team with a strong post presence he can be a undersized stretch 4. At the very least a rotation player coming off the bench.

While I'd be considered a homer Nick Johnson would be a great 2nd rd pickup for a good team. He is versatile enough to play both guard positions, can shoot enough, can be a lock down defender and is a great athlete. If he was 6'6" he'd be a borderline lottery pick

I really like Rodney Hood.

Aaron Gordon really has a lot of work to do on his offense. His shooting beyond 10 feet has been poor. He is basket case on the FT line right now. He is a great athlete and a lockdown defender but he could use another year.

Selden from Kansas could be a sleeper of sorts if a late 1st round pick can be a sleeper. Same with CJ Wilcox from Washington. I still like Robinson from Michigan.

ateamstupid 03-01-2014 10:40 PM

Pretty amazing job by Tony Bennett growing the Virginia program he inherited into the 1st winner of the new stacked ACC.

GPK 03-09-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 967799)
Pretty amazing job by Tony Bennett growing the Virginia program he inherited into the 1st winner of the new stacked ACC.

One of the worst calls to end a game. Ever.

Scav 03-09-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 966178)
Because the mid-Atlantic has turned into Siberia this year I have seen a lot more college hoops than usual.

Wiggins is going to be a really good player, Paul George but with a lot more pressure to preform early.

Parker is a star. You hate to make the comparison but closest thing to LeBron (offensively)that we've seen. Doesnt have his lateral quickness and has been a pretty spotty defender in the games I've seen. I saw rumors where he said he would consider coming back for a second year but that would be crazy. I guess a bit shorter Lamar Odom that shoots better and probably does less drugs and wont marry a Kardashian.

Randle looks like solid PF prospect. He has offensive skill but needs polish (better coaching) and might not be in NBA shape either as he has faded a little this season. Different players but I remember that a big concern about Kevin Love coming out of college was he seemed to be out of shape in college.

I havent seen Smart play a single game so I really have no idea.

Embiid could be a monster considering he has only been playing basketball for a few years. Very raw game but the Hakeem comparisons aren't crazy. Obviously he has to develop a offensive game and understand defensive concepts but talk about potential.

I think Fair is an ok prospect but wonder about defense since they only play zone. The fact that his shooting % has dropped this year is probably a negative especially 28% on 3 point shots. Probably the next Wesley Johnson.

Ennis is a natural playmaker. IMO he has a real good chance to be a top 10 PG at some point

McDermott can be a useful NBA player on a team that doesnt depend on him to guard wings on the perimeter. Maybe on a team with a strong post presence he can be a undersized stretch 4. At the very least a rotation player coming off the bench.

While I'd be considered a homer Nick Johnson would be a great 2nd rd pickup for a good team. He is versatile enough to play both guard positions, can shoot enough, can be a lock down defender and is a great athlete. If he was 6'6" he'd be a borderline lottery pick

I really like Rodney Hood.

Aaron Gordon really has a lot of work to do on his offense. His shooting beyond 10 feet has been poor. He is basket case on the FT line right now. He is a great athlete and a lockdown defender but he could use another year.

Selden from Kansas could be a sleeper of sorts if a late 1st round pick can be a sleeper. Same with CJ Wilcox from Washington. I still like Robinson from Michigan.

The only solid reason he would have for coming back would be because they would be a lock to win title next year with him and Okafor playing together, along with that stud PG from Minny

Cannon Shell 03-09-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 968966)
The only solid reason he would have for coming back would be because they would be a lock to win title next year with him and Okafor playing together, along with that stud PG from Minny

You can't stay when you are a top 3 pick. Makes no sense and will cost too much money to insure. The NCAA provides a insurance policy but I believe it only covers potential wages. He is probably gonna sign a $$$ deal with Nike that is far more than his initial contract would be worth. He wont get what LeBron got coming out of HS (90 million) but it wont be insignificant.

RockHardTen1985 03-16-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 964151)
Here is the 5 star lock Final Four prediction.

Syracuse
Michigan St
Kansas
Wichita St

Cuse Vs Wichita St for the Championship
W/ the Shockers winning it all.
Take it to the bank.

Pretty close.
Now that I see a bracket, my FINAL 4 is....
Kansas
Creighton
Wichita St
Michigan St

Ocala Mike 03-17-2014 10:32 AM

Not much love for the Gators in here; they're strictly the one to beat. Foul line shooting their only (glaring) weakness.

casp0555 03-17-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 969906)
Pretty close.
Now that I see a bracket, my FINAL 4 is....
Kansas
Creighton
Wichita St
Michigan St

I like the Shockers...heard on the radio driving in that the line on them to win it all was 15/1, I will have to check when I get home but that may not be too bad a play

Cannon Shell 03-17-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 969946)
I like the Shockers...heard on the radio driving in that the line on them to win it all was 15/1, I will have to check when I get home but that may not be too bad a play

10-1 now

knickslions2 03-17-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 969946)
I like the Shockers...heard on the radio driving in that the line on them to win it all was 15/1, I will have to check when I get home but that may not be too bad a play

They are not getting any love. Team made deep run last year and are back

ateamstupid 03-17-2014 01:18 PM

Louisville as a 4 is a joke.

Duvalier 03-17-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 969958)
Louisville as a 4 is a joke.

Agreed...ridiculous. Ranked #3 and #5 in the polls along with being defending champs, yet somehow are a number 4 seed.

ateamstupid 03-17-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 969962)
Agreed...ridiculous. Ranked #3 and #5 in the polls along with being defending champs, yet somehow are a number 4 seed.

The conspiracy theorist in me says it was in part to make sure Wichita State doesn't make it out of that region.

jms62 03-17-2014 02:29 PM

What teams have the best chance of an upset in the first round from the
3-14,5-12,4-13 and 6-11 games

declansharbor 03-17-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 969970)
What teams have the best chance of an upset in the first round from the
3-14,5-12,4-13 and 6-11 games

I have NC St beating up on St Louis in the "2nd round".

Louisville being a 4 is a joke.

declansharbor 03-17-2014 03:21 PM

Anybody else scratch their head last night with all the 'experts ' choosing Mich St??

I know they're getting Payne back at exactly the right time, but it was weird seeing them all in agreement when it came to Mich St's chances.

Cannon Shell 03-17-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 969976)
Anybody else scratch their head last night with all the 'experts ' choosing Mich St??

I know they're getting Payne back at exactly the right time, but it was weird seeing them all in agreement when it came to Mich St's chances.

Michigan state and Louisville are doomed

casp0555 03-17-2014 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 969946)
I like the Shockers...heard on the radio driving in that the line on them to win it all was 15/1, I will have to check when I get home but that may not be too bad a play

I took Wichita St at 12/1-Arizona at 9/1]]]....somebody please tell me that SDSU does not have a chance:confused:

ateamstupid 03-17-2014 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 969970)
What teams have the best chance of an upset in the first round from the
3-14,5-12,4-13 and 6-11 games

The Tennessee/Iowa winner will stomp out UMass.

Harvard has a good shot to beat Cincinnati and if Xavier beats NC State I like them over St. Louis. I'd also give North Carolina Central a look against Iowa State.

I think all of the 4-seeds will make it through.

RockHardTen1985 03-17-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 969964)
The conspiracy theorist in me says it was in part to make sure Wichita State doesn't make it out of that region.

I think your spot on here. They gave them the #1 seed and then punished them with the brutal bracket. I still think they come out and go 40-0.

RockHardTen1985 03-17-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 969999)
The Tennessee/Iowa winner will stomp out UMass.

Harvard has a good shot to beat Cincinnati and if Xavier beats NC State I like them over St. Louis. I'd also give North Carolina Central a look against Iowa State.

I think all of the 4-seeds will make it through.

I think Iowa makes it to the second round. Are we doing a bracket challenge thing here on Derbytrail???

Duvalier 03-17-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 969990)
Michigan state and Louisville are doomed

You don't like either of those teams to get to the championship? Do you think your team has a shot at making it all the way?

RockHardTen1985 03-17-2014 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 970014)
You don't like either of those teams to get to the championship? Do you think your team has a shot at making it all the way?

Our team is in trouble. Even though they somehow managed to get the easiest of the 4 brackets.

Cannon Shell 03-17-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 970014)
You don't like either of those teams to get to the championship? Do you think your team has a shot at making it all the way?

Not a chance.
There are no teams without major flaws and these two are carrying the weight of every wanna be expert in existence.

If AZ is clicking on offense and doing a decent job at the line they are the best team in the country. However they often go through droughts where they just cant get an easy basket and have struggled from the line all year. We have seen in previous years the pitiful NCAA refs call way too many fouls and for AZ that works against them because they are an aggressive defensive team and the poor FT shooting. They are far better off if the refs let them play because they score in transition and dont have to shoot FT's.

Van Gundy made the comment early in the Hou/Miami game yesterday about how he can barely watch college games because of how wildly inconsistent the refs are.

I thought AZ did great in the draw. They have already beaten SD St who isnt playing great, Ok State relies on guards scoring which plays directly to AZ's strength. Wisconsin is the worst #2 seed and I dont think they get through Oregon. Creighton, Oklahoma, Gonzaga, Baylor arent scary teams.

Cannon Shell 03-17-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 970015)
Our team is in trouble. Even though they somehow managed to get the easiest of the 4 brackets.

You arent involved in any manner

RockHardTen1985 03-19-2014 07:20 PM

Really love Iowa tonight, playing them minus 2.

Pants II 03-23-2014 08:09 AM

March Madness has a new slogan...

"This is tough to watch"

Pants II 03-23-2014 09:04 AM

That being said...

I hope Kentucky wins today. They match up so well with Louisville.

Plus it would make this tournament somewhat interesting. Just not that interested in seeing Louisville slap Wichita State around and make them cry.

dylbert 03-23-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dylbert (Post 965111)
My Final Four today

ARIZONA
DUKE loses in first round
MICHIGAN STATE
IOWA loses in play-in game

Gotta love Wildcats v. Blue Devils championship game!

Yes, I doubt that this will hold. Too many games left before Selection Sunday... Oh, someone is going for 3-peat in pick em contest too.

As Jerry Reed sang it, "When you're hot, you're hot, and when you're not, you're not". He sang about crap game which resembles my basketball bracket so far! Plus, Nova 'crapped out' last night. I had them in Final Four.

Well, there is always next year...

OldDog 03-23-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 970537)
That being said...

I hope Kentucky wins today. They match up so well with Louisville.

Plus it would make this tournament somewhat interesting. Just not that interested in seeing Louisville slap Wichita State around and make them cry.

YES!!!

Pants II 03-23-2014 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 970685)
YES!!!

Chaos in the Bluegrass.

Antitrust32 03-24-2014 12:10 PM

my Cats seemed to reach full potential last night. If they keep it up they will be dangerous. And by Cats I mean Arizona, not those ****ers from Kentucky.

Alabama Stakes 03-25-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 970717)
Chaos in the Bluegrass.


UK played the game of their life to beat Wichita State, whose coach made the brilliant decision to let the white guy take the shot for the win. Not even the Good white guy. Meanwhile Cleanthony Ellis is throwing them in from everywhere, no rim, and he's wide open 12/17 from the field.

Now the predicament. Lousville is fake and will be exposed. Can Kentucky keep the momentum going ? history says no. (Kansas over S.ILL. in '07). If they are good enough to beat WSU, their A game will beat anyone.

P.S Baylor will trounce Wisky. Them and Sparty look likw the best 2 right now

Pants II 03-25-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 970839)
UK played the game of their life to beat Wichita State, whose coach made the brilliant decision to let the white guy take the shot for the win. Not even the Good white guy. Meanwhile Cleanthony Ellis is throwing them in from everywhere, no rim, and he's wide open 12/17 from the field.

Now the predicament. Lousville is fake and will be exposed. Can Kentucky keep the momentum going ? history says no. (Kansas over S.ILL. in '07). If they are good enough to beat WSU, their A game will beat anyone.

P.S Baylor will trounce Wisky. Them and Sparty look likw the best 2 right now


Spartans are going down on Friday. Baylor had the benefit of playing a team that expended their energy to make the tournament (Nebraska) and a team that no one considered a legitimate contender (Creighton).

Wisconsin will be a brutal matchup for the Bears.

My final four Virginia-Florida-Arizona-Kentucky

Virginia-Kentucky final.

Kentucky wins

jms62 03-29-2014 10:04 PM

How the fuk to you call that a charge? Then you get the ball back and dont even get a shot off before the buzzer. Johnson epic choke.

cmorioles 03-30-2014 03:31 PM

Nice job Kevin Ollie! I remember listening to this guy his final year on the Thunder at a season ticket holder thing, and all he wanted to do was coach. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.


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