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Benny 10-12-2014 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1001244)
the dallas patient has died.

And now one of his caregivers at the Dallas hospital has contracted Ebola from him. Not to worry, they know what thry are doing, nothing to worry about:rolleyes:
http://news.yahoo.com/state-health-o...102955708.html

Dr. Daniel Varga, of the Texas Health Resource, says the worker was in full protective gear when they provided care to Thomas Eric Duncan during his second visit to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. Varga did not identify the worker and says the family of the worker has "requested total privacy."

If the preliminary diagnosis is confirmed, it would be the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.

bigrun 10-12-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1001786)
And now one of his caregivers at the Dallas hospital has contracted Ebola from him. Not to worry, they know what thry are doing, nothing to worry about:rolleyes:
http://news.yahoo.com/state-health-o...102955708.html

Dr. Daniel Varga, of the Texas Health Resource, says the worker was in full protective gear when they provided care to Thomas Eric Duncan during his second visit to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. Varga did not identify the worker and says the family of the worker has "requested total privacy."

If the preliminary diagnosis is confirmed, it would be the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.


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Dr. Tom Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said the diagnosis shows there was a clear breach of safety protocol and all those who treated Thomas Eric Duncan are now considered potentially exposed.
:eek:and all the people they come in contact with?

Benny 10-14-2014 09:35 AM

LONDON (AP) — West Africa could see up to 10,000 new Ebola cases a week within two months, the World Health Organization said Tuesday, also confirming the death rate in the current outbreak has risen to 70 percent.......
........Health care workers have also been hit hard by the virus. International aid organization Doctors Without Borders said that 16 of its staff members have been infected with Ebola and nine of them have died.


http://news.yahoo.com/10-000-ebola-c...124410379.html

OldDog 10-14-2014 10:06 AM

Remain calm. All is well!

Top U.S. officials reassure public: an Ebola epidemic highly unlikely in America
'Well-equipped to stop Ebola in its tracks,' top doctor says

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1962774

Obama Speaks on Ebola: ‘Unlikely’ to Spread in U.S.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-spe...spread-in-u-s/

Feel better?

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...ebola-news.php

Benny 10-14-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1002098)
Remain calm. All is well!

Top U.S. officials reassure public: an Ebola epidemic highly unlikely in America
'Well-equipped to stop Ebola in its tracks,' top doctor says

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1962774

Obama Speaks on Ebola: ‘Unlikely’ to Spread in U.S.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-spe...spread-in-u-s/

Feel better?

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...ebola-news.php

Yes, of course. Just like they gauged ISIS capabilities an d danger

Fauci, Health and Human Services Secretary Syvia Burwell and Lisa Monaco, President Obama's top aide on Homeland Security, repeatedly noted the virus spreads only through direct contact with bodily fluids of patients with symptoms or with objects contaminated by those fluids.

dellinger63 10-14-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1002103)
Yes, of course. Just like they gauged ISIS capabilities an d danger

Fauci, Health and Human Services Secretary Syvia Burwell and Lisa Monaco, President Obama's top aide on Homeland Security, repeatedly noted the virus spreads only through direct contact with bodily fluids of patients with symptoms or with objects contaminated by those fluids.

An ominous posting by a facebook friend who just happens to work in the animal sciences research department at U.Mad, in regards to how Ebola is being handled:

Quote:

To have the expectation that you can contain Ebola, a BSL4 (Biosafety Level aka the Hot Zone) virus in a BSL1, 2, 3 environment is absolutely unobtainable and ridiculous. You cannot.

Danzig 10-14-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1002098)
Remain calm. All is well!

Top U.S. officials reassure public: an Ebola epidemic highly unlikely in America
'Well-equipped to stop Ebola in its tracks,' top doctor says

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1962774

Obama Speaks on Ebola: ‘Unlikely’ to Spread in U.S.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-spe...spread-in-u-s/

Feel better?

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...ebola-news.php

i'm not worried about it at all and don't get why anyone else is. unless one lives in one of the african countries, or is a medical professional there, i don't see why anyone is concerned.

OldDog 10-14-2014 01:01 PM

Not even a smidgen.

dellinger63 10-14-2014 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1002110)
i'm not worried about it at all and don't get why anyone else is. unless one lives in one of the african countries, or is a medical professional there, i don't see why anyone is concerned.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ignorance is bliss :zz:

Danzig 10-14-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1002114)
Not even a smidgen.

no, why would i be? the chances for someone in this country getting ebola is incredibly slim-the chance of getting it from someone is 'miniscule'.
i'd be more worried about the flu, or a car accident-both of which hit far more people every day than ebola does. and i don't worry about them either.

'Unless you exchange or come in contact with blood or body fluids of an infected person, you are not at risk for Ebola. This infection results from close contact with a patient who is at a late stage in the disease.'

you cannot get it from casual contact. i haven't been to africa, neither has my spouse. we aren't in the health care field.

Danzig 10-14-2014 02:38 PM

speaking of larger issues, just saw this headline on my home page:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...squito-insect/

Faced with more than 600,000 deaths a year from malaria, scientists and their philanthropic backers have set their sights on the lowly mosquito. If we could annihilate mosquitoes, malaria would go, too, and with it dengue and other plagues.

OldDog 10-14-2014 03:25 PM

The folks in coach's thread would probably take issue with that.
http://directactioneverywhere.com/organizing-principles

"I have a little boy. His name is Buzz."

Danzig 10-14-2014 04:08 PM

http://www.livescience.com/47946-whe...come-from.html

so, be careful when butchering bats.


and for those who think this is some people killing conspiracy...again, malaria takes out a lot more each year.

some of the comments below this article i just posted are absurd.

Benny 10-14-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1002105)
An ominous posting by a facebook friend who just happens to work in the animal sciences research department at U.Mad, in regards to how Ebola is being handled:

Here is the protocol for it in detail. No wonder there can be errors made !

http://www.vox.com/2014/10/13/696877...rotocol-breach

GenuineRisk 10-15-2014 08:55 AM

The Texas healthcare system continues to live down to expectations.

GenuineRisk 10-15-2014 08:57 AM

Of course, with bigwig NBC correspondents figuring quarantines are just for the little people, maybe we're all screwed:

http://gawker.com/nbc-chief-medical-...ola-1645924287

Benny 10-15-2014 09:05 AM

Massive mistakes made and blame game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1002144)
Here is the protocol for it in detail. No wonder there can be errors made !

http://www.vox.com/2014/10/13/696877...rotocol-breach

Now the nurses union is voicing its concerns and the real story of mistakes made at every turn by all and not to blame the victimized nurses who followed the directions of the hospital and the CDC. It's a huge mess with large numbers of staff, patients and contacts exposed . Let's hope that they get this under control.

http://www.vox.com/2014/10/15/698115...tive-for-ebola

Scroll down to the bar chart though to get a read on cause of death in Africa in the thousands, Ebola is the last and fewest . HIV / AIDS, & RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS by far top the list.

Danzig 10-15-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1002198)
The Texas healthcare system continues to live down to expectations.

i love how the texas pols are going nuts over this, while having arguably the worst healthcare of the fifty states.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1002199)
Of course, with bigwig NBC correspondents figuring quarantines are just for the little people, maybe we're all screwed:

http://gawker.com/nbc-chief-medical-...ola-1645924287

the modern typhoid mary. i am amazed.

Pants II 10-15-2014 09:42 AM

The Feds are responsible for international flights...but lets blame it on Texas and their lack of true sovereignty due to a reckless, anti-constitution federal government.

Can't secure our borders for the one of many surprises that will be revealed after mid-terms from the most transparent administration in the history of mankind.

Pants II 10-15-2014 09:47 AM

Just completely disregard Texas' inability to protect its borders and the mass immigration problems it faces.

Also completely disregard Houston has one of, if not THE BEST, cancer centers in the United States.

If Texas had true sovereignty they would be far better off than the idiots in our Federal government. People who defend it are the worst people in this country and deserve no rights.

casp0555 10-15-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1002215)
Just completely disregard Texas' inability to protect its borders and the mass immigration problems it faces.

Also completely disregard Houston has one of, if not THE BEST, cancer centers in the United States.

If Texas had true sovereignty they would be far better off than the idiots in our Federal government. People who defend it are the worst people in this country and deserve no rights.

http://www.texasmedicalcenter.org/members/

If not Texas....then who does

Danzig 10-15-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1002232)
http://www.texasmedicalcenter.org/members/

If not Texas....then who does

texas leads the country in uninsured citizens.
we have the most expensive medical care in the world, but rank 37th for delivery of that care.
ebola gets headlines, but let's talk about how many thousands of citizens would be saved by having proper medical coverage. fat lot of good top hospitals and doctors do, when people can't be seen to receive care.

Pants II 10-15-2014 12:41 PM

That is a fantasy.

Let's see any of those countries with socialized medicine keep it going for 100 years.

It's unsustainable. Someone has to pay for it. Period.

Europe is in shambles. They can only hide the lie for another decade or so.

We will see the fall of western civilization in our lifetime. Both sides of the political aisle is complicit.

Rudeboyelvis 10-15-2014 02:38 PM

2nd Texas health worker tests positive for Ebola; CDC says she flew home before falling ill - they are now trying to get in touch with everyone that was on the airplane.

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle...279249822.html

Keep dreaming that "They" have a fuc1<ing clue what to do. That "They" know how this is and isn't transmitted. That "They" know how long the incubation period is, and whether or not it can be passed on even though the carrier isn't showing symptoms. That "They" know for a fact that this only survives in bodily fluids and won't live long outside of a host.

Danzig 10-15-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1002247)
2nd Texas health worker tests positive for Ebola; CDC says she flew home before falling ill - they are now trying to get in touch with everyone that was on the airplane.

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle...279249822.html

Keep dreaming that "They" have a fuc1<ing clue what to do. That "They" know how this is and isn't transmitted. That "They" know how long the incubation period is, and whether or not it can be passed on even though the carrier isn't showing symptoms. That "They" know for a fact that this only survives in bodily fluids and won't live long outside of a host.

they do know how it's transmitted, that it can't be transmitted thru casual contact.
that's why i'm surprised so many people are going nuts about this.

Benny 10-15-2014 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1002247)
2nd Texas health worker tests positive for Ebola; CDC says she flew home before falling ill - they are now trying to get in touch with everyone that was on the airplane.

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle...279249822.html

Keep dreaming that "They" have a fuc1<ing clue what to do. That "They" know how this is and isn't transmitted. That "They" know how long the incubation period is, and whether or not it can be passed on even though the carrier isn't showing symptoms. That "They" know for a fact that this only survives in bodily fluids and won't live long outside of a host.

years ago, I was on a charter coming back from overseas, when we landed htey kept us on the plane . finally after an hour they came on board with stacks of paper and announced there was a "possible" TB carrier 2 rows behind me. Not to worry, go to your DR and get tested. It really gets your attention.:wf

dellinger63 10-15-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1002249)
they do know how it's transmitted, that it can't be transmitted thru casual contact.

Quote:

Dr. Tom Frieden, director for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said during a telephone press briefing Wednesday that you cannot get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but that infected or exposed persons should not ride public transportation because they could transmit the disease to someone else.
Think we need a new CDC director!

Pants II 10-15-2014 03:11 PM

You don't take any chances with something that has a 50-70% kill rate.

That's just insanity. All for a make believe economy that's so fragile it can't withstand a shutdown for the possible sake of HUMANITY.

Sick society we've built...on greed. Perpetuated by radical idiots atm.

Pants II 10-15-2014 03:37 PM


OldDog 10-15-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1002258)

Hey, he's canceled a fundraiser appearance. What more do you want?

Danzig 10-15-2014 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1002251)
years ago, I was on a charter coming back from overseas, when we landed htey kept us on the plane . finally after an hour they came on board with stacks of paper and announced there was a "possible" TB carrier 2 rows behind me. Not to worry, go to your DR and get tested. It really gets your attention.:wf

but tb can be transmitted a lot easier than ebola. they said she didn't vomit or bleed on the flight, and unlike tb it isn't airborne.

OldDog 10-15-2014 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1002260)
but tb can be transmitted a lot easier than ebola. they said she didn't vomit or bleed on the flight, and unlike tb it isn't airborne.

So all this is for . . . ?
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-n...tional-airport

Danzig 10-15-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1002261)

precautionary.
i'd suggest everyone read the 'other info' link on all you need to know about ebola, in which it discusses how it's spread.

Rudeboyelvis 10-15-2014 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1002249)
they do know how it's transmitted, that it can't be transmitted thru casual contact.
that's why i'm surprised so many people are going nuts about this.

You keep trumpeting this over and over like it is etched in stone somewhere.

There are NO absolutes. What they know about this virus changes hourly.

>>>Ebola is airborne, according to a new report by the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota. Researchers at the university just advised the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) that “scientific and epidemiologic evidence” now exists that proves Ebola has the potential to be transmitted via exhaled breath and “infectious aerosol particles.”<<<


http://www.inquisitr.com/1541821/ebo...ZgTDq73J8dz.99

Danzig 10-15-2014 03:50 PM

http://news.health.com/2014/07/29/cd...united-states/

Ebola is not transmitted through the air, which makes it much harder to spread than respiratory diseases like the measles, influenza or SARS, Geisbert explained.

Instead, Ebola is spread through body fluids like blood, vomit or saliva. A person has to come into contact with those fluids to risk infection.

“Because it’s not airborne, it would take very close contact with someone who is at an advanced stage of illness to become infected,” Geisbert said.

Danzig 10-15-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1002263)
You keep trumpeting this over and over like it is etched in stone somewhere.

There are NO absolutes. What they know about this virus changes hourly.

>>>Ebola is airborne, according to a new report by the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota. Researchers at the university just advised the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) that “scientific and epidemiologic evidence” now exists that proves Ebola has the potential to be transmitted via exhaled breath and “infectious aerosol particles.”<<<


http://www.inquisitr.com/1541821/ebo...ZgTDq73J8dz.99

i'm sorry that i'm trying to point out calmly that all this hysteria is, frankly, unwarranted.
but, by all means, have at it.

Rudeboyelvis 10-15-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1002265)
i'm sorry that i'm trying to point out calmly that all this hysteria is, frankly, unwarranted.
but, by all means, have at it.

4000 deaths with estimates of 10000 by the end of the month because, ya know, the WHO has it all figured out. :rolleyes:

It's not hysteria when they are all backtracking on their initial summations. 3 hours ago CIDRAP confirmed it can be spread through the air, but just not where you are. You're fine.

Danzig 10-15-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1002266)
4000 deaths with estimates of 10000 by the end of the month because, ya know, the WHO has it all figured out. :rolleyes:

It's not hysteria when they are all backtracking on their initial summations. 3 hours ago CIDRAP confirmed it can be spread through the air, but just not where you are. You're fine.

oh, wow. yeah, that's a huge mess, 4k deaths.
compared to malaria in 2012 that killed 600,000. or the typical month in american car crashes that kills that many.
and yes, i am fine. i don't work in the health care field with people with ebola, and haven't been to africa-and won't be.
the thing that gets me most, are the people saying this is all a conspiracy to kill off a bunch of people-they sure picked the wrong way to do it. other ways are much quicker and take out a lot more people. but let's not let all that get in the way of a conspiracy theory-cause they're really much more fun.


'so far none of the family or friends of Thomas Eric Duncan –- the first patient to die of Ebola in the U.S. –- have become ill. With their 21-day quarantine period almost at an end, it doesn't appear the virus had a chance to spread, he said.

"This is a terribly important lesson that virus is not going to run rampant in Dallas or anywhere else in the U.S.," Schaffner said. "Let's not forget that we've done some things right."'

oh, how boring....

bigrun 10-15-2014 06:20 PM

2nd nurse with ebola..


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/nurse-i...ry?id=26206090

Arletta 10-15-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 1002273)

Old news DJ.. see post #64 :D


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