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Bigsmc 02-07-2008 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
It should be this (I need to be put in charge)

Rotation between....

Churchill, Belmont, Santa Anita, X

X =

Arlington, Monmouth, Lone Star, Woodbine, Somewhere in Europe (maybe), Dubai (Maybe)...Hialeah (if restored), and I can't think of any others.
I enjoyed the BC at Hollywood, but I guess that place's days are numbered.

miraja2 02-07-2008 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
You are right, it is retarded.

Why is it that this industry can not do anything to MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY and just do things that piss people off, some of the list

1) Same BC Site
2) Past posting/outdated mutual systems
3) Same saddle cloths on day where they are 40 horses in one race
4) ADW fiasco
5) Takeout fiasco
6) Drugs fiasco
7) Not making safe tracks to begin with and then going synethic on a whim

Feel free to add any more to this list
I swear that if people in positions of power in any sport actively attempted to destroy that sport, they could hardly do a better job than the people in this sport have done by accident.

ateamstupid 02-07-2008 07:31 PM
Looks like I'll be passing on the next TWO Cups.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-07-2008 08:36 PM
If they want to have it in these other places(other than SOCAL,)then they should change the date to atleast a month earlier.You should atleast make an attempt to avoid the bad weather.LONE STAR,CHURCHILL,and MONMOUTH all involved weather.

31lengths 02-07-2008 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Looks like I'll be passing on the next TWO Cups.

J -

Love the avatar.

King Glorious 02-07-2008 08:51 PM
I'll bet that everyone that says they won't watch or wager on the BC at Santa Anita........will.

31lengths 02-07-2008 08:58 PM
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Santa Anita to host Breeders' Cup again in 2009

Santa Anita will be the home of the Breeders' Cup World Championships for the next two years, following a decision by Breeders' Cup Ltd. to award the 2009 edition to the Oak Tree Racing Association.

ateamstupid 02-08-2008 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I'll bet that everyone that says they won't watch or wager on the BC at Santa Anita........will.
Nah, I'll watch, but I won't be wagering. I haven't bet on a race at a So. California track since summer '06, and I don't plan to anytime soon.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-08-2008 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Nah, I'll watch, but I won't be wagering. I haven't bet on a race at a So. California track since summer '06, and I don't plan to anytime soon.
Not even on the offspring of SINGLECHERRY?

Pedigree Ann 02-08-2008 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Not even on the offspring of SINGLECHERRY?
Are you knocking my boy? Because Singletary was a fighter who finally got his just reward in the Lone Star BC. Just because he didn't come with a fancy pedigree, some East Coasters had to knock him but he was a heck of a better horse than some of the Storm Cat flashes-in-the-pan out there.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-08-2008 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Nah, I'll watch, but I won't be wagering. I haven't bet on a race at a So. California track since summer '06, and I don't plan to anytime soon.
it was delmar i believe...:eek:

KY_Sasquash 02-08-2008 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
The BC was held at SA in 1986, 1993, and 2003.

The winners of the Turf have been:
1986-Manila
1993-Kotashaan
2003-High Chaparral

The winners of the Mile have been:
1986-Last Tycoon
1993-Lure
2003-Six Perfections

The lone winner of the F/M Turf was:
2003-Islington

Of that group, all of those horses were proven as not only grade one level horses but also as grade one winners. Of the seven, four were European based horses. Of the 21 horses to finish in the top three in the races, eight were European based horses and several more were transplanted Europeans. I can't see a single horse on this list that was not a legit winner and with Euro's holding a 4-3 edge in winners, I don't see how anyone can say it's unfair to them.
I stand corrected. Must be in my head. I really don't feel that their turf courses play like a true turf course as previously stated.

How could you leave my man Johar off that list though?

KY_Sasquash 02-08-2008 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Are you knocking my boy? Because Singletary was a fighter who finally got his just reward in the Lone Star BC. Just because he didn't come with a fancy pedigree, some East Coasters had to knock him but he was a heck of a better horse than some of the Storm Cat flashes-in-the-pan out there.

His win was severely aided by Jamie Spencer's horrendous ride on Antonius Pius. Any other jock on Antonius Pius' back and he wins the mile. Hardly a just reward. No matter to me, i got lucky and cashed on him, but he shouldve been 2nd.

slotdirt 02-08-2008 08:45 AM
I have no plans to bet or attend either the 08 or 09 Breeders Cups...strictly because they're at Santa Anita.

TitanSooner 02-08-2008 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I have no plans to bet or attend either the 08 or 09 Breeders Cups...strictly because they're at Santa Anita.
that ought to make them think twice about their decision

blackthroatedwind 02-08-2008 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I'll bet that everyone that says they won't watch or wager on the BC at Santa Anita........will.

Technically you are probably right but I can guarantee you that my handle will be less than 50% of what it usually is on BC Day and much less than my average handle on any racing day. Now, I don't really bet more on the average BC day, but now I will bet even less.

2Hot4TV 02-08-2008 11:13 AM
The Breeders Cup deservers to be showcased in at a facility that is equal to it's standards and Santa Anita is just that. There are only about 6 tracks in the US that can handle the Breeders Cup without major investments and the races should be rotated between those tracks and change the dates if weather is a major concern. I for one will be at Santa Anita in 2008/2009 and well enjoy every minute.

GBBob 02-08-2008 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Technically you are probably right but I can guarantee you that my handle will be less than 50% of what it usually is on BC Day and much less than my average handle on any racing day. Now, I don't really bet more on the average BC day, but now I will bet even less.
That surprised me given the value that is often present on horses with a shot at double digit odds.

Am I mistaken? I thought BC was generally a good betting day


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