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GBBob

11-10-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ

I didn't realize that these animals always do as they are told and instructed to...I didn't realize they are machines. You could do all the training and schooling in the world, and sometimes the horse doesn't listen or want to do what you are looking for it to do. I think it's absolutely foolish to pin the blame on Pletcher for the horse acting up behind the gate. Last I looked Quality Road wasn't disguised as Pletcher. And if a horse's behavior is a reflection of it's training, I'll throw this out there, an NFL team is preparing to go play in lets say Indianapolis, and all week they practice with a ton of crowd noise, and they work on making sure the offensive line is on the same page with regard to false starts, and then come Sunday, they have 6 false starts in Indianapolis, even though they dedicated extra time towards working with snap counts and to avoid false starts, is that a reflection of their training or is that something out of the coaches hands, very much like Quality Road's gate actions were out of Pletcher's hands.

But Pletcher didn't practice once in the SA gate.

TouchOfGrey

11-10-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ

I'm well aware that horses are not machines and don't always behave the way they're expected to. However, QR has a history of acting up at the gate. This is not the first time he's given the starters a problem. Obviously something needs to be worked on.

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But Pletcher didn't practice once in the SA gate.

This too.

parsixfarms

11-10-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey

However, QR has a history of acting up at the gate. This is not the first time he's given the starters a problem. Obviously something needs to be worked on.

Did he act this way when Jerkens had him? If this is only a recent thing, maybe he's trying to tell his connections something (like his feet are still hurting him).

JerseyJ

11-10-2009 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

But Pletcher didn't practice once in the SA gate.

Most teams don't get to practice with amped up crowd noise at the venue. Most teams do their work at their practice facilities.

Kasept

11-10-2009 05:02 PM

I just heard that he also refused to get on the plane yesterday. Is going to have to be vanned back to New York!

freddymo

11-10-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

I just heard that he also refused to get on the plane yesterday. Is going to have to be vanned back to New York!

What happened did Pletcher not send you a Christmas Card or something. The friggin horse freaked out. He is the same Plethcher trained horse to run a huge 6.5f race at Spa and then ran a OK Travers and JCGC right?

parsixfarms

11-10-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

I just heard that he also refused to get on the plane yesterday. Is going to have to be vanned back to New York!

If that's the case, then perhaps Wolfson would be the perfect trainer for Quality Road. He could work on his shoes while he's at it.

freddymo

11-10-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

If that's the case, then perhaps Wolfson would be the perfect trainer for Quality Road. He could work on his shoes while he's at it.

Mr Wolfson is an amazing trainer especially in Florida something about the good weather that make his horses really run in the sunshine

Kasept

11-10-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Chip Woolley will drive him.

:tro: :tro: :tro: :tro:

Danzig

11-10-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Chip Woolley will drive him.

the only time mine that bird seems to move quickly anymore, when he's trailering...

Coach Pants

11-10-2009 05:52 PM

Chip Wooley looked like death warmed over in the paddock interview.

freddymo

11-10-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

the only time mine that bird seems to move quickly anymore, when he's trailering...

this is funny also

parsixfarms

11-10-2009 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Chip Woolley will drive him.

Just make sure that Kenny Rice doesn't interview him about how the trip went after he arrives in NY.

freddymo

11-10-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Chip Wooley looked like death warmed over in the paddock interview.

Perhaps Mine that bird could use 5 months off to be a horse again? Let him all the down and bring him back for the summer and fall next year. He looks like he could use a few months of R and R

Danzig

11-10-2009 06:43 PM

maybe mine that bird needs to run exclusively at churchill and pimlico.

Coach Pants

11-10-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Perhaps Mine that bird could use 5 months off to be a horse again? Let him all the down and bring him back for the summer and fall next year. He looks like he could use a few months of R and R

He could sprout wings and it wouldn't help. Makes me sick that big of a plug won the Derby.

Sightseek

11-10-2009 07:23 PM

Whether or not it was anyone's fault, it sucks that he's such a talented horse and now they have a lot to deal with.

Article on him refusing to board the plane:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-will-van-home

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