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NTamm1215 07-27-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 674564)
Have to agree with you here. Lucky will beat these horses. I still think Twirling Candy is the best three year old but won't have enough races under his belt.

Todd Schrupp, is that you?

Seriously, a 3YO who has won a restricted race at a mile on the turf? I mean, I know we all want to be the one to notice the next superstar, and that this group of 3YOs is not particularly strong but Twirling Candy has zero credentials to be mentioned as a serious 3YO right now.

NT

knickslions2 07-27-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 674583)
Todd Schrupp, is that you?

Seriously, a 3YO who has won a restricted race at a mile on the turf? I mean, I know we all want to be the one to notice the next superstar, and that this group of 3YOs is not particularly strong but Twirling Candy has zero credentials to be mentioned as a serious 3YO right now.

NT

Hey all I said is I think he is the best three year old out there. I don't expect anyone else to think that. If he can get some races under his belt he would prove me either wrong or right. He has all the tools to be a good solid horse in a weak class.

Handicappy 07-27-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 674508)
I suck at this...but here goes.

Ice Box...............................6-1
Lookin at Lucky...................3-1
First Dude............................10-1
Super Saver.........................6-1
Afleet Again..........................20-1
Uptowncharleybrown............20-1
Trappe Shot..........................5-2
Our Dark Knight....................12-1

You don't suck at choosing your Avatar that's for sure. I am anxious to see how Trappe Shot can do against these. It is a very aggressive spotting for a barn that tends to be conservative in placing horses. He certainly could be every bit as good as KMac has been saying.

RockHardTen1985 07-27-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Handicappy (Post 674749)
You don't suck at choosing your Avatar that's for sure. I am anxious to see how Trappe Shot can do against these. It is a very aggressive spotting for a barn that tends to be conservative in placing horses. He certainly could be every bit as good as KMac has been saying.

How is it aggressive at all? Im pretty sure he has the top last out beyer and won the local prep. I dont get this comment at all. Not trying to be a dick either, I just think its a super logical spot, they have been conservative enough with him facing FL Breds twice. Its time to see how good he really is.

VOL JACK 07-27-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Handicappy (Post 674749)
You don't suck at choosing your Avatar that's for sure. I am anxious to see how Trappe Shot can do against these. It is a very aggressive spotting for a barn that tends to be conservative in placing horses. He certainly could be every bit as good as KMac has been saying.

Its not aggressive at all.
They have taken the most conservative route they could up to this point in his career.
He was a mortal lock in the Woody Stephens (yes I said so beforehand) and they passed for an Allowance race.

RockHardTen1985 07-27-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 674878)
Its not aggressive at all.
They have taken the most conservative route they could up to this point in his career.
He was a mortal lock in the Woody Stephens (yes I said so beforehand) and they passed for an Allowance race.

Did you copy me word for word?

Handicappy 07-28-2010 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 674755)
How is it aggressive at all? Im pretty sure he has the top last out beyer and won the local prep. I dont get this comment at all. Not trying to be a dick either, I just think its a super logical spot, they have been conservative enough with him facing FL Breds twice. Its time to see how good he really is.

I do agree with you and your not being a dick. The barn is usually very conservative and have been with him up to this point. The Allowance spot a couple back is one of those type of decisions I think. I do like the horse and was glad they didn't rush him as a 2 yr old. I'll be watching that's for sure. I just hope I can get 4/1 on him and the crowd dumps money elsewhere.

tjfla 07-29-2010 12:42 PM

1. Lookin At Lucky, Bob Baffert, Martin Garcia, 5/2
2. Afleet Again, Robert Reid Jr., Joe Bravo, 12/1
3. Ice Box, Nick Zito, Jose Lezcano, 9/2
4. First Dude, Dale Romans, Kent Desormeaux, 6/1
5. Our Dark Knight, Nick Zito, Elvis Trujillo 15/1
6. Super Saver, Todd Pletcher, Calvin Borel, 3/1
7. Uptowncharlybrown, Kiaran McLaughlin, Rajiv Maragh, 15/1
8. Trappe Shot, Kiaran McLaughlin, Alan Garcia, 3/1


LAL get Lucky #1 Again and seems Pleasant Prince and Concord Point went for easier races in Ohio and WV Derby

randallscott35 07-29-2010 12:45 PM

Bob hates the draw. Get a grip. Its an 8 horse field and the 1 is a great place to be at Monmouth

Alan07 07-29-2010 02:12 PM

8/1 (MTH): Haskell (G1), Oceanport & Matchmaker (G3's)
 
9th (4:04) Matchmaker S. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Talkin About Love Marquez C H Jr 116 L
2 Eye of Taurus Castro E 116 L
3 Yippety Yip Garcia M 116 L
4 Obsequious Fragoso P 116 L
5 Unbridled Essence Lopez P 118 L
6 Tizaqueena Maragh R 123 L
7 Cherokee Queen Trujillo E 118 L
8 Mystic Miracle Bravo J 118 L
9 Quiet Meadow Garcia Alan 116 L
10 Tottie (GB) Lezcano J 116 L
11 Giant Mover Dominguez R A 116 L



11th (5:08) Oceanport S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Nownownow Lopez P 116 Blk-On L
2 Violon Sacre Lezcano J 118 L
3 Whatsthescript (IRE) Trujillo E 116 L
4 Strike a Deal Lopez C C 123 L
5 Cherokee Artist Dominguez R A 118 L
6 Get Serious Fragoso P 120 L
7 Roman Tiger Bravo J 120 L
8 Tybalt Maragh R 116 L



12th (5:45) Haskell Invitational S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Lookin At Lucky Garcia M 122 L
2 Afleet Again Bravo J 118 L
3 Ice Box Lezcano J 120 L
4 First Dude Dominguez R A 118 L
5 Our Dark Knight Trujillo E 118 L
6 Super Saver Borel C H 122 L
7 Uptowncharlybrown Maragh R 118 L
8 Trappe Shot Garcia Alan 118 L

NTamm1215 07-29-2010 02:19 PM

Terrific card, great job by Monmouth, I'm looking forward to the whole day.

NT

RockHardTen1985 07-29-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 675536)
Terrific card, great job by Monmouth, I'm looking forward to the whole day.

NT


Now your a Monmouth guy, UGH.

ateamstupid 07-29-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 675536)
Terrific card, great job by Monmouth, I'm looking forward to the whole day.

NT

Since the Haskell is the 12th, does anybody know if the Pick 5 will start in the 8th instead of the 6th?

philcski 07-29-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 675771)
Since the Haskell is the 12th, does anybody know if the Pick 5 will start in the 8th instead of the 6th?

I think it stays as the 6th- at least it did the last few years (when it started in the 5th.)

ateamstupid 07-29-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 675777)
I think it stays as the 6th- at least it did the last few years (when it started in the 5th.)

That's a terrible decision then. Imagine if the Travers wasn't part of a guaranteed Pick 4 or Pick 6.

GoIrish 07-30-2010 06:42 AM

The P5 starts with the 6th. The late P4 starts with the 11th.

lemoncrush 07-30-2010 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 675536)
Terrific card, great job by Monmouth, I'm looking forward to the whole day.

NT

I figured the Sunday card would be loaded. Their lineup on Saturday is dreadful.

Danzig 07-30-2010 10:05 AM

1. Lookin At Lucky M. Garcia B. Baffert 5-2

2. Afleet Again J. Bravo R. Reid 12-1

3. Ice Box J. Lezcano N. Zito 9-2

4. First Dude R. Dominguez D. Romans 6-1

5. Our Dark Knight E. Trujillo N. Zito 15-1

6. Super Saver C. Borel T. Pletcher 3-1

7. Uptowncharlybrown R. Maragh K McLaughlin 15-1

8. Trappe Shot A. Garcia K. McLaughlin 3-1

keithting 08-01-2010 06:48 AM

I know that Trappe Shot is the "now horse" but...

does it bother anyone that he has not yet run 9 furlongs this late into his 3-yr old campaign?

He does have a nice race over the Monmouth oval, but he'll need to deal with that outside post.

All in all, I guess he'll be the fav in a very interesting Haskell....

Sightseek 08-01-2010 07:54 AM

Uptowncharlybrown has been scratched because of a fever. (per his facebook page)


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