no you are just uninformed.

i root for all philly teams, but i know whats good and not.

Eagles have a shitty defense, sub par offensive line.

Sixers have a lot of talent, dont have a big man.

Phillies are not having a good offensive year.

they also have the best pitching rotation and most wins in baseball.

7 innings or more.

you just have no clue about pitching and baseball in general.

i bet you havent watched more than one or two games all year. if that

Right, well wins is really an accurate stat for predicting great pitching. I'm sure that means CC SAbathia won the AL Cy Young last year. Oh wait...

Seriously, end of argument. It's not seven innings or more. Never has been seven innings or more. It's six innings, three runs or less, end of story. I can't argue with someone who doesn't understand what they're arguing.

you know what is funny. your little link shows that the phillies have the best pitchers in baseball!!! 19.2 WAR atlanta is second

suck on that!

http://cbssports.custhelp.com/app/an...etail/a_id/226

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=1623

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_start

http://www.sportsmogul.com/baseballcd/help/Glossary.htm

The end.

its hilarous 6 innings and 3 runs would be a below average start for a phillies player.

THen petition someone to change the definition of quality start. Halladay has 16, by the way, which is only one more than Jurjjens and three fewer than Verlander (Verlander stat thrown in for perspective).

oh wow. you won the definition of quality starts.

the rest of the **** you wrote is just, ****.

halladay still has more quality starts. plus he has faced 125 more batters than JJ.

argue that

the end

you even proved that you are wrong

jurrjens has 14.. that is 2 less than halladay.

just fixing your math.

i like how you ignore how many more innings halladay has gone, and how many more batters he's faced.

you are just uninformed.

and shoot, JJ is pitching great, out of his mind.. but there is a reason Halladay is starting the all star game over him.

i was talking about team wins.

you know, the only stat that matters in baseball.


by the way

Halladay - 138 strike outs and 17 walks in 143.1 innings

Jurrjens - 65 strike outs and 25 walks in 110.2 innings


do you really think Jurrjens would win the cy young right now? he would be a close second with Hamels 3rd.

All-Star starter is meaningful stat now? Sheesh.

ANd the argument isn't Jurjjens vs. Halladay, by the way. Shoot, Hamels is probably having the better season than Halladay anyway.

Hamels is close. Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball, and has been for years.


only an idiot would say that a team doesnt have the best rotation and then post a link proving said team does have the best rotation (and according to that link, best overall pitching)

it's not a stat, it's called an honor. an honor given by the manager (Giants manger) to the pitcher he believes is the best on his all star team.

Does anyone here think First Dude has a strong look at HOY?

Door is open for anyone that can make a run as there is no front runner.

^^ :)

marry, bang, cliff:

Hope Solo, Lauren Cheney, The entire team from Sweden