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Clip-Clop 12-31-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 958893)
Martinez is a logical fight for him. He holds legit belts, isn't a big puncher anymore, didn't look great in his last fight, is coming off a long layoff and injury and Cotto gets a huge homefield advantage.

He will never fight Ward who is simply far too big for him. If he were to beat Martinez it could set up a huge rematch with Mayweather who would love to grab the middleweight titles.

Ward is way too much for Cotto, agreed. Even with the belts I am not sure that Floyd gives him the fight, he embarrassed him in that bout. Floyd only has 4 fights left as far as he has said. The fact that he is facing Khan next is a bit of a joke. Will be tough to sell that fight.

Cannon Shell 12-31-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 958947)
Ward is way too much for Cotto, agreed. Even with the belts I am not sure that Floyd gives him the fight, he embarrassed him in that bout. Floyd only has 4 fights left as far as he has said. The fact that he is facing Khan next is a bit of a joke. Will be tough to sell that fight.

What has Khan done lately to deserve a shot? It is a bad fight.

Clip-Clop 01-02-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 958999)
What has Khan done lately to deserve a shot? It is a bad fight.

Agreed it is crap. Did see/hear that Provodnikov v. Pacquio is likely for April, that will be a great one.

Cannon Shell 01-02-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 959223)
Agreed it is crap. Did see/hear that Provodnikov v. Pacquio is likely for April, that will be a great one.

I'm skeptical that one comes off though there arent that many good pairings for Pacquio (of course other than Mayweather) Maybe a rematch with Bradley? Danny Garcia or Matthysse would be great fights with Pacquio but the ridiculous promoter nonsense gets in the way.

Clip-Clop 01-03-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 959240)
I'm skeptical that one comes off though there arent that many good pairings for Pacquio (of course other than Mayweather) Maybe a rematch with Bradley? Danny Garcia or Matthysse would be great fights with Pacquio but the ridiculous promoter nonsense gets in the way.

I would love to see Garcia v. Provodnikov. Bradley Pacquiao is the fight that should get made since he and Floyd won't go. Like to see Floyd and Sergio Martinez.

Cannon Shell 01-03-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 959319)
I would love to see Garcia v. Provodnikov. Bradley Pacquiao is the fight that should get made since he and Floyd won't go. Like to see Floyd and Sergio Martinez.

Sergio vs Cotto should be a good fight. I will probably go if it is at MSG. Floyd has some interesting possibilities that he will never try. He is a great fighter but hasn't taken on a really dangerous fight in 10 years.

Either Maidana or Broner versus Providnokov would be a great fight too but wont happen because of the bs.

Clip-Clop 02-05-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 959361)
Sergio vs Cotto should be a good fight. I will probably go if it is at MSG. Floyd has some interesting possibilities that he will never try. He is a great fighter but hasn't taken on a really dangerous fight in 10 years.

Either Maidana or Broner versus Providnokov would be a great fight too but wont happen because of the bs.

Pacquiao v. Bradley looks like the winner, April 12th, going to try to make it down to Vegas for this one.
Floyd has been mentioning Maidana quite a bit lately.

Alabama Stakes 02-05-2014 10:53 AM

If Pacman has one fight left in him, he will knock Bradley out. I stand by my assertion that the beating Ruslan Provodnikov gave Bradley is gonna show up sooner rather than later.

Cannon Shell 02-05-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 963935)
Pacquiao v. Bradley looks like the winner, April 12th, going to try to make it down to Vegas for this one.
Floyd has been mentioning Maidana quite a bit lately.

No one believes Khan has even a sliver of a chance and I'm sure the PPV numbers will show that. At least Maidana has recently won against a good opponent though I dont give him much of a shot to win. FM has painted himself into a corner so to speak in that there just arent that many interesting matchups that he is willing to do.

Cannon Shell 02-05-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 963938)
If Pacman has one fight left in him, he will knock Bradley out. I stand by my assertion that the beating Ruslan Provodnikov gave Bradley is gonna show up sooner rather than later.

Didn't show up against Marquez.

Clip-Clop 02-05-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 963948)
Didn't show up against Marquez.

Nah, he is all better. Just a wicked concussion. He fought through it like he should have. Bradley is really very solid and doesn't get the respect he deserves because of the judges in the Pac fight. He will win this and Manny goes off to pasture, assuming he has any scratch left.

Clip-Clop 02-05-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 963946)
No one believes Khan has even a sliver of a chance and I'm sure the PPV numbers will show that. At least Maidana has recently won against a good opponent though I dont give him much of a shot to win. FM has painted himself into a corner so to speak in that there just arent that many interesting matchups that he is willing to do.

He has gone up in weight, come back down, fought at catch weights he could never get big enough to make and still there has not been a real challenge since one round in the Moseley fight. Guy is just too good. Maybe he can fight GGG?

Cannon Shell 02-05-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 963951)
He has gone up in weight, come back down, fought at catch weights he could never get big enough to make and still there has not been a real challenge since one round in the Moseley fight. Guy is just too good. Maybe he can fight GGG?

Lol Mayweather wont face hard hitters coming up in weight let alone a real 160 middleweight. I will give him some credit for fighting Cotto and Alvarez but Ortiz is a scrub and Guerrero was hand picked and has a thin resume. Khan is a joke.

The fact is that he has consistently ducked the only real challenger that the public thought could challenge him. Regardless of how he spins it, he ducked him.

He is gonna fight a tomato can in May and probably Danny Garcia in September. Garcia is a good fighter but too sloppy to beat Mayweather who won't get drawn into a fight with him. He wont fight Matteyesse, he cant fight Bradley, He wont fight Pacquio. Maybe rematch with Cotto at a catch weight if he beats Martinez in May? No one wants to pay to see him fight Lara or Molina and he probably wont fight Kirkland. At Welterweight who is there? Maidana I guess. Maybe he'd make good on his vow to fight in the UK against Kell Brook who cant beat him. At least that would be interesting for awhile. Keith Thurman isnt ready. No one wants to see Devon Alexander on a PPV. Provodnikov is an HBO fighter. His options that he is willing to do are pretty unappealing if you are going to see big PPV numbers.

Yeah he is a bit of a victim of his success but he has very carefully crafted the script. Virtually every great fighter has had an opponent or has had a challenge that made them memorable. Mayweather has resisted some challenges and it is going to be part of his legacy. He has made himself extremely rich and is a great, great fighter but in 10 or 20 years what fight are you going to look back and say was his defining moment that separates him from other great fighters? Right now I dont think there is one.

Clip-Clop 02-07-2014 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 964001)
Lol Mayweather wont face hard hitters coming up in weight let alone a real 160 middleweight. I will give him some credit for fighting Cotto and Alvarez but Ortiz is a scrub and Guerrero was hand picked and has a thin resume. Khan is a joke.

The fact is that he has consistently ducked the only real challenger that the public thought could challenge him. Regardless of how he spins it, he ducked him.

He is gonna fight a tomato can in May and probably Danny Garcia in September. Garcia is a good fighter but too sloppy to beat Mayweather who won't get drawn into a fight with him. He wont fight Matteyesse, he cant fight Bradley, He wont fight Pacquio. Maybe rematch with Cotto at a catch weight if he beats Martinez in May? No one wants to pay to see him fight Lara or Molina and he probably wont fight Kirkland. At Welterweight who is there? Maidana I guess. Maybe he'd make good on his vow to fight in the UK against Kell Brook who cant beat him. At least that would be interesting for awhile. Keith Thurman isnt ready. No one wants to see Devon Alexander on a PPV. Provodnikov is an HBO fighter. His options that he is willing to do are pretty unappealing if you are going to see big PPV numbers.

Yeah he is a bit of a victim of his success but he has very carefully crafted the script. Virtually every great fighter has had an opponent or has had a challenge that made them memorable. Mayweather has resisted some challenges and it is going to be part of his legacy. He has made himself extremely rich and is a great, great fighter but in 10 or 20 years what fight are you going to look back and say was his defining moment that separates him from other great fighters? Right now I dont think there is one.

Why can't he fight Bradley? Assuming Bradley wins this one and Floyd beats whoever in May. That would be the one everyone wants, or should want. Floyd at 140 again would be great to see.

Cannon Shell 02-07-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 964248)
Why can't he fight Bradley? Assuming Bradley wins this one and Floyd beats whoever in May. That would be the one everyone wants, or should want. Floyd at 140 again would be great to see.

Bradley is a Top Rank/HBO boxer.

Clip-Clop 02-07-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 964262)
Bradley is a Top Rank/HBO boxer.

Damn Showtime and their $. Their coverage is terrible too. This is silly. Did you catch Manny on ESPN calling out Floyd yet again?

Cannon Shell 02-07-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 964263)
Damn Showtime and their $. Their coverage is terrible too. This is silly. Did you catch Manny on ESPN calling out Floyd yet again?

Yeah the phone lines are open lol. I like Paulie Malignaggi as an analyst.

Alabama Stakes 02-08-2014 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 963948)
Didn't show up against Marquez.

Marquez was terrible.......It would nicer to see Provodnikov Bradley II. Unfinished business for Ruslan.

Cannon Shell 02-08-2014 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 964330)
Marquez was terrible.......It would nicer to see Provodnikov Bradley II. Unfinished business for Ruslan.

That would almost surely be a disappointment as Bradley has a whole lot more respect for him and would not go toe to toe again.

Clip-Clop 02-10-2014 02:46 PM

Amir Khan wins the peoples choice to get the next Mayweather fight. Just a matter of time now. Shame.


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