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cmorioles 12-16-2006 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Kent gives bad rides. He gives bizarre rides. But at the same time, he give textbook rides.

A perfect example is Premium tap. Gave a great ride to get the horse his first grade 1. Any mention on here? Of course not. He completely blows the ride in the BC prep. He gets lambasted. Comes back a few weeks later and gives a great ride in the Clark. Any mention of the great ride?

The horse won by a pole. Shaq could have gotten that horse to the winner's circle. I actually hit the winner and the exacta in the Turfway Park prep and thought I had done some brilliant handicapping. I now realize I was extremely fortunate and have donated half the winnings to Kent's favorite charity.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-16-2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
The horse won by a pole. Shaq could have gotten that horse to the winner's circle. I actually hit the winner and the exacta in the Turfway Park prep and thought I had done some brilliant handicapping. I now realize I was extremely fortunate and have donated half the winnings to Kent's favorite charity.

What charity is that? E.C.I.N.?? (End Cajun Illiteracy Now)

bellsbendboy 12-17-2006 07:54 AM

Scuds with all due respect your last post was a bit off. I know plenty of people from Louisiana and they are wonderfully talented and knowledgable, especially about racing.

Your post on another thread saying that Hollywood was speed favoring was pure prattle and without merit. And your selection of a wrung out, over the top Principle Secret lacked insight. With respect. BBB

The Bid 12-17-2006 08:13 AM

My vote is John Mckee. Its tough to get horses in some of the spots he gets them in.

paisjpq 12-17-2006 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
My vote is John Mckee. Its tough to get horses in some of the spots he gets them in.

that's a good choice...but to be fair, he is just along for the ride most of the time :D

smartyalex 12-17-2006 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
that's a good choice...but to be fair, he is just along for the ride most of the time :D


Well, my vote has finally beed mentioned. WOW, the kid is terrified of the rail!!!

dalakhani 12-17-2006 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
The horse won by a pole. Shaq could have gotten that horse to the winner's circle. I actually hit the winner and the exacta in the Turfway Park prep and thought I had done some brilliant handicapping. I now realize I was extremely fortunate and have donated half the winnings to Kent's favorite charity.

Was Stormello tons the best yesterday? Or did the jock have anything at all to do with it? Lord knows if he loses, its all kents fault.

The Bid 12-17-2006 10:42 AM

He is brutal. Without a guy like Holthus, he may be riding at River Downs.

cmorioles 12-17-2006 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Was Stormello tons the best yesterday? Or did the jock have anything at all to do with it? Lord knows if he loses, its all kents fault.

Well, I was pretty sure he was going to win a few more races in his career. He isn't very good in my opinion. I didn't see yesterday's race as that is in the middle of the night for me, so I can't really say at this time.

My general philosophy is that very rare is a jockey decisive in winning a race, but they can certainly lead to a loss. As I mentioned here, I rarely even know who is riding the horses I bet on.

blackthroatedwind 12-17-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
I didn't see yesterday's race as that is in the middle of the night for me, so I can't really say at this time.

Gee, I wonder where that would be.

Seattleallstar 12-17-2006 11:34 AM

Kent D
Sexy Chantal
Jerry Bailey, Gary Stevens, Pat Day

cmorioles 12-17-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Gee, I wonder where that would be.

Newfoundland?

blackthroatedwind 12-17-2006 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
Newfoundland?


They are an hour ahead of NY.

Slow Saturday night?

cmorioles 12-17-2006 01:26 PM

Yep, I'm working and watching football, emphasis on the latter. (It is Sunday by the way)

blackthroatedwind 12-17-2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
Yep, I'm working and watching football, emphasis on the latter. (It is Sunday by the way)

I was referring to you saying the Hollywood Futurity was past your bedtime...ya know, being that you're in Newfoundland and all.

cmorioles 12-17-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I was referring to you saying the Hollywood Futurity was past your bedtime...ya know, being that you're in Newfoundland and all.

I'm not only bored, but brain dead at the moment.

Swale84 12-17-2006 04:00 PM

It is rare that a jockey does much to win the race, but I've seen them screw one up before. Maybe Frankie Detorri would have won if he were on Bernardini in the Classic, he wouldn't have made him start going so soon.

eajinabi 12-17-2006 09:11 PM

Mike Smith

todko 12-19-2006 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
Scuds with all due respect your last post was a bit off. I know plenty of people from Louisiana and they are wonderfully talented and knowledgable, especially about racing.

Your post on another thread saying that Hollywood was speed favoring was pure prattle and without merit. And your selection of a wrung out, over the top Principle Secret lacked insight. With respect. BBB

Well said BBB.

Louisiana is a mecca for horse racing and, in particular, for producing good jockeys. Look at the number of jockeys who started riding in the backwaters of Louisiana and made a significant impact at the highest levels of the sport. From Eddie D. on through today . . . the list goes on. Many of today's top jockeys started riding as kids in Cajun/Creole country. Louisiana is one of the few states that boast 4 thoroughbred tracks.

Not to mention the other assets of the state -- including the fine programs at Loyola and Tulane.

The state took the brunt of a massive hurricane followed by the inept response from a corrupt national government. If Louisiana wasn't critical to the oil industry chances are people would still be drowning in flood waters today.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-19-2006 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by todko
Well said BBB.

Louisiana is a mecca for horse racing and, in particular, for producing good jockeys. Look at the number of jockeys who started riding in the backwaters of Louisiana and made a significant impact at the highest levels of the sport. From Eddie D. on through today . . . the list goes on. Many of today's top jockeys started riding as kids in Cajun/Creole country. Louisiana is one of the few states that boast 4 thoroughbred tracks.

Not to mention the other assets of the state -- including the fine programs at Loyola and Tulane.

The state took the brunt of a massive hurricane followed by the inept response from a corrupt national government. If Louisiana wasn't critical to the oil industry chances are people would still be drowning in flood waters today.

Say anything you want,but the Principle Secret part is fiction.The riding at Delta Downs that night by the inbreds was atrocious.It was the worst I have seen all year,and that was the question asked in the poll.I would feel better about their riding skills if I knew they were trying to set it up for the horses in the back of the field.There is no good option.They are bad,or crooked.Take your pick.


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