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eurobounce 01-22-2007 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Prado and Ramon are in 2 different classes. One guy rides in the top meets and is successful....one guy is forced to ride at 3rd class meets and comes up for air to pick up scraps when the top guys go away.

As far as this week.....Ramon is riding at AQU during a time of bad racing and is getting first call mounts....sure he is gonna be successful at a meet when he is riding against the likes of Diane Nelson and Andrew Lakeman.....
He earned $14,409,988 by riding 3rd class meets and picking up scraps.

stonegossard 01-22-2007 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
#1 in all the world these days-dettori
Sicne you reside in my old stompong grounds I will make this pleasant....

Dettori is not the #1 rider......this guy is hand fed the TOP mounts overseas....yes he is skilled....but definetly not the best...not even top 3....but if you need a reminder go back and watch his ride on Swain...

stonegossard 01-22-2007 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Hey Tracy Hebert won alot of races this week at Delta!!! He's better than Prado now!

Easy on the Hebert comments my friend.......if you even mention one abd word about Carl Woodley , me and you are gonna drop the gloves

stonegossard 01-22-2007 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You don't follow NY racing at all....do you?

Mike Smith has been absolutely horrendous since coming back from the West Coast and " Mike Smith off " has become virtually an automatic play. It's obvious you haven't seen him ride but you could have at least looked at his stats. I'll give you a hint....they are horrendous.

Jose Santos is also riding flat out awful right now and has the numbers to prove it. He is getting left with virtually every mount and getting in trouble just as often. Shawn Bridgemohan, despite hiring NY's best agent in Drew Mollica is also struggling for mounts and winning at under a 10% clip. His riding has been less than stellar.


This person isnt serious....Smith,Santos, and Bridgmohan?......They are in the 2nd car of the horrible jockey train.....Diane Nelson,Andrew Lakeman, and Rudy Rodriguez reside in the first car......Herbie Castillo is the conductor.

stonegossard 01-22-2007 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
i dont think anyone was bashing ramon save that nucklehead ride at aq..
my top 7 jocks on any day

prado
corny
gomez
mig
jv
c nack
m padroza all hart strong hands..


Where is Barrington Harvey?

Surely a typo on your part.....

Coach Pants 01-22-2007 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Easy on the Hebert comments my friend.......if you even mention one abd word about Carl Woodley , me and you are gonna drop the gloves
You're going to fight me over what I say about another man?



Ok dude...:confused:

eurobounce 01-22-2007 01:18 PM
I miss the old days at River and Turfway when we had Herbert, Woods, Outz, Cooksey, Tolio, Martines all battling it out. Now that was a jockey colony--ha ha.

stonegossard 01-22-2007 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eurobounce
He earned $14,409,988 by riding 3rd class meets and picking up scraps.

Yes...he wins a TON of races at Delaware....and their purses are good down there..thats where the earnings come from.....lots of wins in mediocore races....and he rides all the good horses....his competition there is weak...outside of Jeremy Rose there aren't any half decent jocks at that meet.........it's like Russell Baze....wins a ton of races at bad meets....is Baze a bad jock? Not at all......is skilled.....but the guy has ONE grade I victory in all those wins.....

stonegossard 01-22-2007 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
You're going to fight me over what I say about another man?



Ok dude...:confused:

was a joke.......

Coach Pants 01-22-2007 01:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eurobounce
I miss the old days at River and Turfway when we had Herbert, Woods, Outz, Cooksey, Tolio, Martines all battling it out. Now that was a jockey colony--ha ha.
I remember Garrett Gomez and Jose Valdivia Jr. at Ellis Park. I think it was the summer of 91...maybe 92.

eurobounce 01-22-2007 01:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stonegossard
Yes...he wins a TON of races at Delaware....and their purses are good down there..thats where the earnings come from.....lots of wins in mediocore races....and he rides all the good horses....his competition there is weak...outside of Jeremy Rose there aren't any half decent jocks at that meet.........it's like Russell Baze....wins a ton of races at bad meets....is Baze a bad jock? Not at all......is skilled.....but the guy has ONE grade I victory in all those wins.....
If I was a jock and could earn $14mm a year without traveling a whole bunch I would.

Coach Pants 01-22-2007 01:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stonegossard
was a joke.......
Ok. Be sure to give Carl a hug for me.

Coach Pants 01-22-2007 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eurobounce
If I was a jock and could earn $14mm a year without traveling a whole bunch I would.
He earned 10% of that.

eurobounce 01-22-2007 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
He earned 10% of that.
I know, I should of said his mounts earned that. So he earned $1.4mm. Prado earned $1.9mm. Not that big of a difference.

Coach Pants 01-22-2007 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I know, I should of said his mounts earned that. So he earned $1.4mm. Prado earned $1.9mm. Not that big of a difference.
Nah that's chump change.

blackthroatedwind 01-22-2007 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I know, I should of said his mounts earned that. So he earned $1.4mm. Prado earned $1.9mm. Not that big of a difference.
Prado won the Derby and at least one BC race as well. Somehow I think Ramon would like to be competitive in those races.

Coach Pants 01-22-2007 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Prado won the Derby and at least one BC race as well. Somehow I think Ramon would like to be competitive in those races.
two bc's and also won the belmont twice.

ramon won a bc race in 04

eurobounce 01-22-2007 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Prado won the Derby and at least one BC race as well. Somehow I think Ramon would like to be competitive in those races.
I agree, but with a Derby win and a BC win Prado only earned $500k more. It is all about what you want I guess. Prado goes all over the nation. Ramon basically stays at home.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-22-2007 01:59 PM
id rather have my money on prado..but thats just me...those i must stop playing

norberto a
pablo f
those who i will never play even on the much the best horse
chantal
mike smith
anyone who shakes hands with mike smith
h pazua
a castilliano..
in the south

eddie nunez
h velez
j leyva
k chapman...

blackthroatedwind 01-22-2007 02:00 PM
There's a guy in Florida that brings new meaning to horrendous....R D Fuentes.


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