I think that may be the way it is. I'd still go to the SA Derby with her. She has nothing else to prove against the California fillies and there isn't even another race for her here so run in the SA Derby and if it doesn't work, go to the Kentucky Oaks.

congrats to helen pitts! nicely done by einstein.

I heard Blue Exit pulled up.
I hope hes ok

Or maybe the change in barns?

Yay Helen!

(I've apparently been under a rock, didn't realize she'd married Scott Blasi's brother last year.) Has a female trainer won the Big Cap before?

While it was nice to see Helen win, the Santa Anita Handicap has seen better days. The older grass horses stink.

Rodney Rash was the first

i was enjoying the international flavor a bit-the 'cap this year seemed to draw a variety of horses. but it definitely had a turf field, regardless of what some want to call the main track out there.

Milf!

Actually. he was a Group 1 winner in Brazil at 3 - he won the Cruzeiro do Sul, which is considered to be the Brazilian Derby. G1 winner to claimer to G1 placer.

I'm waiting for a track to have a dirt course, and a synthetic course, which would mean we'd still have dirt racing, but we'd also never be off the "turf."

that was then, now he's a claimer. no?

Do you mean Betty Buggy Box?

Rodney's Rash - rest in peace - is Indian Charlie's all-time favorite trainer.

Oh, yeah Silverbulletday didn't get any better at 3, while Anees and Answer Lively did? Stardom Bound has already done better than War Pass did at 3, in terms of G1 racing.

Okay, you find the two or three examples against it, and I'll bring a list fifteen times as long of those that support it.

This is not uncommon opinion... girls TEND to mature faster than boys.

That was one hell of an effort by Stardom Bound.

Silverbulletday and Indian Blessing are the exception, not the rule. And you can't be serious with your second sentence. Who cares about age-restricted filly Grade I's? She's been slow since she came back, there's no arguing this.

i'm a little stunned by some of the reaction to Stardom Bound getting up to beat the formidable Third Dawn by a frantic nostril.

If she wasnt going 15 wide then she wins for fun

I guess Im just still caught up in just being involved here because I thought the three biggest races on the card had great finish. I dont look at the form enough to know who really did and didnt show up for the races, I guess you could say Im blinkers on. :)

hmmm...I don't think so. It's hard to sugarcoat a narrow win against Third Dawn and the rest of that collection of subpar 3YOs. I'd love to see Rachel Alexandra vs. Stardom Bound right now.

NT

I don't have the patience to read this thread.....but I hope nobody was impressed with Stardom Bound's final career win today.

she'll be a bet against for me for the foreseeable future.

she 's a piece of crap and so are all the horses lol

FTFY.

Restricted G1 racing.

No filly who wins a G1 race is a piece of crap......but this year's crop of 3 year old males would destroy her. She's an above average filly, and should race against fillies the rest of the year.

I think that is the problem. She is always going to be 15 wide with her style and that jock. I think she's screwed in a full field on the dirt.

I might take an opposite stance in that maybe Smith realizes that they might be catching up with her and he won't be able to go 10 wide next time. Will hopefully ride a different race. I still pray for her to take on Rachel Alexandra on dirt.

her career is final or her wins are final

FTFY

I think its reasonable, if not likely, that she moves forward on dirt. I know she has been winning on synthetic but I like her action for dirt better. Now I dont think she wants to go any further then 9 furlongs and probably would be best suited to one turn sprinting at a mile at Belmont. A race like the Acorn sounds like a perfect spot.

oh boy, that would be fun message board fodder.

thats cold

Oh I know, not a fan of SB on the dirt but she will get pounded becuase of connections and her successes

That's rough. Funny as hell though.

Why is it that men who want to insult another man call him a woman, then wonder why actual women feel insulted, too?

It's because you have assumed that all women have the same flaws of character you perceive in the subject of your insult. If you think Mr. Rash (with whom I am unfamiliar) is timid, or emotional, or inconsistent, or a poor trainer, or just plain stupid, that is your concern, but when you decide that such characteristics are found only in females and in all females, I'm not going to let it pass. Grow up, children.

Rodney Rash was a homosexual who died of aids about 10 years ago. I said it was cold meaning not very nice.

Maybe Iavarone should give Calvin Borel a call.