Oh thank you...that means so much to me.

Freddy obviously knows alot about racing, that is why I bother talking with him so I can set him straight.


Edit-You mean't Cannon, my mistake. It's getting late...

Yes Zenyatta has had a joke of a campaign, I would never defend that shed.

Also I think alot of posters should read Chuck's posts today, I agree(how's that for a change) with alot of what he has said today. I don't disrespect RA as a horse but I believe she needs one more race with some risk in it along the vein of the Preakness to atleast get me aboard with the RA club, The JCGC would earn the rest of my respect if it can't be the BC.

One can only hope that's the JCGC.

Isnt it going to be basically this same group?

Who, by name, is in the tier 1 group of dirt horses?

Touche. I'm speechless...

I already replied to you on the other thread, I am tired but yes it would launch her, however those connections have their own ideas. A real shame.

The one that won the Travers is 99.99% sure and the one that finished 3rd is a maybe. I'll take those 2 to start, maybe the derby winner. Dry Martini..

What have you seen from Summer Bird to think he is more than in a fight to be the best of a very average group? I do like quality road's talent, give him a pass, but again its not like he is anything special.

yeah, it really is a shame. her win streak is pretty cool-but i almost feel like zenyatta is being cheated in a way. maybe if/when she ties personal ensign, they'll try something new with her.

hard to say yet what these colts will turn out to be. hopefully many will be around for a year or so to add to their resumes. summer bird is the best of the bunch, and may still have some upside to him-he's been a bit of a late starter. i hope he runs next year. but too soon to say if these guys are average, a bit above or a bit below. definitely some speed in this bunch.

I love Spock. Always thought Capt. Kirk was a bit of a blow hard.

I didn't defend Paragallo per say I thought it was impossible for a human who was earning from horses to knowingly starve them.

The Woodward is a very agressive spot and risky.You own a 3 year old filly that seems to be indestructable. She has beaten the best 3 year old males twice. It is a very "sporting" thing for racing for Rachel to attempt to win the Woodward. You say what do you mean she is the ML favorite, why the heck is this just another good spot for her. Which in my opinion totally misses essence of what she and her connections are doing for racing.

Think about it this way the Sherriffs and the Moss's still haven't tried a huge mare that is plenty good against anything but the sofest logical spots. And you have people like Ron Ellis applauding the process. A filly running in the Woodward is special.

Just read the Crist piece unlike me who cant but a cogent thought on paper to save my life Crist realizes the magnitude of the campaign.

CS was meant to be Cannon Shell not you. I respect Cannon Shell a lot and am not arguing with. We have different points of view and discuss them. I understand your points as well. Just because people have different understandings of a situation or horse doesn't mean they are hostile or disrespectful to others ideas.

Well said, alot of people have alot of good viewpoints here. We can all learn something from everyone and I have.

that is so not true. If we ever got the chance to see Zenyatta race against anything but that crappy division she races in EVERY sSingle race she would get the respect she deserves.

Its more distain against Zenyatta's connections for not letting us fans and race followers see how good she truely is. You cant prove anything in the races she's been running in besides the BC Distaff.

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy Mother of God....Amazing.

Yea baby!!! :{>:

Borel did everything he could to get her beat

I think she even still galloped-out ahead of Macho Again? Wow.

I'll 2nd that!

Borel had her out pretty far most of the race - did the track seem better there?

Borel is an idiot all he had to do was rate with her the first half and she wins by 3 or 4. Instead the guy gets hooked in a speed duel???

It may be a little harder to do that than you think...

and it wasnt much of a speed duel either.

22.85, 46.41, 1:10.54, 1:35.48, 1:48.29

She went out in under 23 and still came home in under 13.

Heart pounding. Her most impressive win of the year, it looked like Macho Again had her mid way in the stretch but she fought back and held on.

Macho Again ran a great race as well, 1st in the Stephen Foster, 2nd in the Whitney and 2nd in the Woodward. Looks like he will love the 1 1/4 JCGC.

But the Princess is now The Queen.

We have seen her rate before.. The ride was comical. If you don't recognize how absurd it was then you'll need to consult people who's opinion you respect on race riding. We all knew Borel could get her beat and he did his very very best.

It was a tard ride of the ages but she's just too damn good. Lucky for Borel she is.

Very Fun to watch! She has nothing left to prove. One of the best females that I've seen in my 20 years of following the sport.

Is it possible that she might have been a little rank?

I love when you guys say they should just rate her. If he had got her bottled up and steadied or checked then you would complain too. He rode her as good as he could considering the circumstances. If the first fraction was .17 slower no one would even notice the fraction. I'm sure Turcotte got Secretariat beat by Onion too right?

No because he let her run a little. You know when you notice horses are rank? When the riders are in their mouths. If he had grabbed ahold of her like freddy he would complain about strangling her.

Great point Chuck! No doubt it was a better ride than most would think.

Can't see anything wrong with the ride and horse is something unreal. Where did all the other horses that were on the pace end up? Way, way back.

The horse is amazing.

You don't have to grab anything this filly has proven she is capable of rating. The ride was ridiculous, you will hear this from every single intelligent and respected handicapper in the industry PERIOD.

I dont care what any handicapper says, horses arent the same everytime they step on the track. Is it possible to read into Jacksons comments that she was a little tired coming into the race and possibly Assmussen went a little lighter on her than usual which can lead to horses being too keyed up on race day? They arent machines, there is no brakes and a free running horse like she is is better going fast than being strangled.

The ride was never going to be easy today.

I'm just happy Jess Jackson bought her and we were able to enjoy a race like the one today.

Per Crist:

Her narrow margin over Macho Again, a G1 winner but a horse who has never been mistaken for Man o'War, was deceptive. Rachel Alexandra's pace -- 22.85, 46.41, 1:10.54, and 1:35.48 -- was sensationally fast for a nine-furlong race at Saratoga, and when Macho Again came running at her late, he would have gone right by any ordinary racehorse. But Rachel Alexandra had something left, running her final furlong in 12.81 to turn back the challenge.

Not much of a speed duel..Crist knows SENSATIONALLY FAST when he sees it I am sure CJ and DrugS will post the PACE FIG's which are going to lights out..

Your funny if it was .17 slower nobody would notice.

Get a grip. No one said it wasnt fast. Going fast early is how most races are won isnt it? That is how the horse runs, plain and simple. If the fracions were 23, 46.41 there would be a whole lot less hysteria about the pace.

So now we need to GUESS about how she felt today..Ok Dr Doolittle..The Jock gave her head because he knew that was the only way she could win.. Borel please it was a complete bone head ride. Scav would have won by 3 on her..And likes to be ridden