Can't believe both Dialed In and Uncle Mo wimped out of the FOY today. Hell, Boys of Tosconova has apparently wimped out of the whole Derby trail:D

Well first of all, all I did was confirm the scratch, which no one else had mentioned here (it was just speculation before). As to repeating myself, I would not have done so except for Steve's unnecessary response.

Bernardini is the greatest
Bernardini is the greatest
Bernardini is the greatest
Bernardini is the greatest
Bernardini is the greatest

I love Godolphin
I love Godolphin

PLEASE let me in the harem, I know everything about the horses.
PLEASE let me in the harem, I know everything about the horses.
PLEASE let me in the harem, I know everything about the horses.
PLEASE let me in the harem, I know everything about the horses.

So what you're saying is that anyone that doesn't agree with you is obstinate? I don't think it's a logical move and I haven't been convinced that it is, but since we're not talking about a horse that's particularly good, it's really silly to continue the argument. I guess we'll have to wait and see how he does in his next race.

Betsy. The obstinate aspect, which was suggested in a humorous vein, is not that you're disagreeing with me.. There's nothing to disagree about with me as I have no opinion on the decision itself. I don't care what KMc and Darley do with Crossbow. I was only trying to explain the thought process and why/where particulars involved in decision-making of this kind and its' merits. I'll give you Kiaran McLaughlin's or Jimmy Bell's contact info if you want. You can explain their folly to them.

Hi Jimmy this is Betsy do you have a minute I would like to explain why you are about to ruin another horse...Click

Gourmet Dinner

I think Crossbow would have been far from hopeless in here.

He certainly would have been a better play than the stretchout Trippi at 4/5.

The connections are indefensible. Sorry. You guys can keep defending these a-holes with their monarch mentalities all you want.

Nice.

Just pure horsemanship right there. If you were to make a montage of the sport in its true form right now, there would be that guy. With his pill-headed smile and weasel cackle. It's just poetry.

Black N Beauty was eased and is listed as DNF. He got pinched at the start.

Breaks maiden easy from the rail. Ships and wins easy in 1:22 flat. No indictments have hit.

Life is good.

Steve, I understand their decision making process, but I disagree with it - which is fine. In any case, I appreciate your thoughts on why they made the decision that they did.

I guess we'll never know; I'm sorry they didn't take their shot, but it's over and done with.

As to the Davona Dale, I guess those who were thinking of Ward's filly as a Derby type can now think again.

God bless America. And broke race tracks and states. And crooked lawyers and trainers. And stupid people who believe in American justice.

well if you won't call. Maybe I or Coach can call. this is important

btw

I need Bowman's Causeway to run 3rd

If you don't like America, feel free to leave!!!!

I've always wanted to say that.

I'm with Pants and Betsy on this one.

Enough with the chickenshid scratching out of every freaking race in which conditions are not absolutely favorable to your horse.

Those are tactics you see in a second grade playground.

Thieves used to lose their hands as punishment for stealing. Make no mistake, Dutrow is a low-level thief. He lived in a f.ucking stall for crying out loud. He'll do ANYTHING to win. The guy should be in the winners circle waving his nubs. To see that he has all 10 fingers is sickening.

Dutrow trains Gourmet Dinner he wins by 15

LATE money thrown down on Soldat made him the 7/5 favorite.

He was crushed in the double and pick 3.

I would have never thought Soldat would be the favorite when the gates opened.

VERY disappointed in THAS........ I understand that maybe he wasn't 100%, but he should have run better than he did. If I'm Mott, I don't even consider the Derby with him. I doubt he got anything out of this race, not enough for him to run 1 1/4 miles in May

Do you ever give it a rest?

On another note, War Front is off to an unbelievable start as a sire.

:zz::wf

:tro::tro:

pomeroy too along with first sam

I never even understood the love this horse got from fans and media in the first place.

Who knows though. Maybe something happened to him, or he didn't like the track.

Steve, just have Casey give Betsy the phone book, now she needs Mott's #. Steve didn't Mott rell EVERYONE the FOY was not going to be the colts finest hour?

What didn't you like about his performance as a 2 year old?

Also, I remember Indomitable Drug wondering if Bernardini took after his dam in siring relatively precocious horses (she didn't do so well past her juvenile year).............and maybe he's right. So far, about 15th on the 2nd crop sires list and I can count the number of his horses on one hand that have shown real promise this year. Of course it's too early to say they haven't trained on, but it's something to keep an eye on.

I need that book that deciphers trainer-speak. :rolleyes:

How is First Samurai off to a great start? He has 2 SW, one of which, Le Mi Geauz, hasn't run well since she won that stakes in NY. He's off to an ok start, but nothing special.

Does he have any other interesting horses beyond TF and Soldat?

You need Byk to get you Moss's # now to have them abort Zenyatta's foal?

Soldat was trading actively in betting exchanges at 7/5 early on in the betting ... a stream of fish came along and kept nibbling at the bait and slowly he was trading almost as high as 5/2. With about 2 minutes to go - someone looking to lock in 2.00-to-1 on him came in and offered 4K to layers at that price.

You could have got To Honor And Serve at 2/1 late in the betting. A Soldat backer or maybe a few of them - played it very well in the exchanges.

What exactly is your problem? I get that THAS wasn't going to be 100%, but he really ran a very poor race. He was factious in the gate for one.........he almost seemed a bit rank early. I had expected him to blow by Soldat, but then I really thought going in he was a very good horse. Do you really think that Mott can get this horse ready for 1 1/4 after his next start? He's got a lot of questions to answer now.

The Phipps the other day is a War Front

He was finished at the 5/16 pole.

A ton of allowance/maiden winners it seems - Data Link for one.