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VOL JACK 06-11-2011 11:23 PM

:$::{>:It's Tricky:$::{>:

Looked like a winner the entire race.

freddymo 06-12-2011 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 783826)
Beyer Figures:

It's Tricky 105
Trappe Shot 112
Justin Phillip 96
CS Silk 101
Mission Approved 103
Ruler on Ice 100


What does a 112 for Trap Shot mean Khan of Khans received a 95? You can take that fig and wipe your butt with it.. The fig is fine what it means about Trap Shot is debatable. Jason Blewit called him the best sprinter in training on Belmont in 30. I kind of think Smiling Tiger would eat his lunch at 6 or 7.

Kasept 06-12-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 783794)
They let both of them walk on the front end. Mission Approved was allowed to go 1:17, and he got brave. What were the other jocks thinking allowing him to do that?

Nick,

Has nothing to do with jocks allowing anything in either of the turf events, and everything to do with the soft turf..

Travis Stone 06-12-2011 09:56 AM

Yesterday's Manhattan reminded me of when Interpatation walked around the track in the Turf Classic under similar (but probably worse) conditions and won at huge odds.

Dahoss 06-12-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 783843)
What does a 112 for Trap Shot mean Khan of Khans received a 95? You can take that fig and wipe your butt with it.. The fig is fine what it means about Trap Shot is debatable. Jason Blewit called him the best sprinter in training on Belmont in 30. I kind of think Smiling Tiger would eat his lunch at 6 or 7.

Khan of Khans got a 84 Freddy, which is right in line with how he has been running for awhile now.

ateamstupid 06-12-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 783843)
What does a 112 for Trap Shot mean Khan of Khans received a 95?

Would love to know how you calculated that.

RolloTomasi 06-12-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 783874)
Would love to know how you calculated that.

I think he used a classic Texas Instruments grade school calculator and multiplied 8008 times 1.

He might have added a fifth of Jack to the equation, too.

ateamstupid 06-12-2011 02:54 PM

Is they serious?

Quote:

Motion said that the timing of those Arlington races is “a good fit” and that he and Barry Irwin, the president of the Team Valor International syndicate that owns Animal Kingdom, must decide whether to run him once or twice between now and the Breeders’ Cup.

Travis Stone 06-12-2011 03:00 PM

What races are they referring to?

King Glorious 06-12-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 783890)
What races are they referring to?

Arlington Million or the Secretariat is what they said.

NTamm1215 06-12-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 783843)
What does a 112 for Trap Shot mean Khan of Khans received a 95? You can take that fig and wipe your butt with it.. The fig is fine what it means about Trap Shot is debatable. Jason Blewit called him the best sprinter in training on Belmont in 30. I kind of think Smiling Tiger would eat his lunch at 6 or 7.

I think Trappe Shot will beat Smiling Tiger whenever they meet.

Travis Stone 06-12-2011 03:08 PM

Okay. I thought it was about those races, plus whatever one they would use pre-BC.

freddymo 06-12-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 783895)
I think Trappe Shot will beat Smiling Tiger whenever they meet.


Seriously?

blackthroatedwind 06-12-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 783929)
Seriously?

Yes. Trappe Shot, while obviously aided by the wet track like the rest of the winners, is a seriously good horse.

NTamm1215 06-12-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 783929)
Seriously?

Trappe Shot is very good at what they're going to keep him doing. Smiling Tiger, while a game horse who always shows up, was better off in his stall yesterday. He will have a very difficult time beating Trappe Shot in a race like the Vanderbilt if he's shipped in for it.

Is this love for Smiling Tiger from your fascination with Twirling Candy?

Dahoss 06-12-2011 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 783932)

Is this love for Smiling Tiger from your fascination with Twirling Candy?

Of course it is.

RolloTomasi 06-12-2011 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 783934)
Of course it is.

Smiling Tiger's form has been pretty spotty since his huge effort in last year's Malibu. He made no impression on octogenarian Euroears in the Palos Verdes, broke like crap and just edged uber-bridesmaid Captain Cherokee in the San Carlos, whipped cream puffs at Oaklawn, then was nowhere Derby Day. From day one he's been campaigned aggressively and one has to think off his latest performance that he's finally come undone.

That said, if he is toast, Freddy will come on here and say that it was the loss to Twirling Candy that did him in.

PatCummings 06-12-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 783940)
Smiling Tiger's form has been pretty spotty since his huge effort in last year's Malibu. He made no impression on octogenarian Euroears in the Palos Verdes, broke like crap and just edged uber-bridesmaid Captain Cherokee in the San Carlos, whipped cream puffs at Oaklawn, then was nowhere Derby Day. From day one he's been campaigned aggressively and one has to think off his latest performance that he's finally come undone.

That said, if he is toast, Freddy will come on here and say that it was the loss to Twirling Candy that did him in.

FWIW, Smiling Tiger had an awful trip at Churchill.

Dahoss 06-12-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 783940)
Smiling Tiger's form has been pretty spotty since his huge effort in last year's Malibu. He made no impression on octogenarian Euroears in the Palos Verdes, broke like crap and just edged uber-bridesmaid Captain Cherokee in the San Carlos, whipped cream puffs at Oaklawn, then was nowhere Derby Day. From day one he's been campaigned aggressively and one has to think off his latest performance that he's finally come undone.

That said, if he is toast, Freddy will come on here and say that it was the loss to Twirling Candy that did him in.

He missed both races at Belmont he was pointing for also, right?

RolloTomasi 06-12-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 783943)
FWIW, Smiling Tiger had an awful trip at Churchill.

Yeah, you're right. I was too busy watching my Donald Dizney overlay get nipped by the one horse in that race I didn't want to see win.

I guess I'll wait for the Triple Bend before making any predictions.

freddymo 06-12-2011 06:56 PM

Smiling Tiger is a lot more sprinter then Trapp Door.. obviously Twirling Candy is on a completely different level sort of like Ghostzapper a horse special from 6 to 10f's.. Rolho start your eclispe spin asap.. This east coast nonsense has to end, i realze Ntam and BTW get their butter breaded and chicken choked from NY tracks but at some point yield to a champion like Da Candy Man.

On a serious note Smiling Tiger will eat Trap Shots lunch he is a lot better

freddymo 06-12-2011 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 783950)
Yeah, you're right. I was too busy watching my Donald Dizney overlay get nipped by the one horse in that race I didn't want to see win.

I guess I'll wait for the Triple Bend before making any predictions.

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RolloTomasi 06-12-2011 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 783963)
obviously Twirling Candy is on a completely different level sort of like Ghostzapper a horse special from 6 to 10f's..

I like this.

I'm leaving this up on the chalk board for all my classes to enjoy, giving you full credit, of course Mr. Mo.

freddymo 06-13-2011 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 783978)
I like this.

I'm leaving this up on the chalk board for all my classes to enjoy, giving you full credit, of course Mr. Mo.

Class they shouldn't let you near people nevermind animals lol

slotdirt 06-13-2011 10:38 AM

Just got a chance to finally watch the replay somewhere other than at Belmont Park, and Larry Collmus's call >>>> Durkin's on-track call. Durkin is a legend, but Collmus did a great job from start to finish.

slotdirt 06-13-2011 02:36 PM

Also, I don't know if they mentioned it on television, but Ruler on Ice was having absoultely nothing to do with that blanket of carnations traditionally placed upon the Belmont winner. Seems like a wacky horse.

richard 06-14-2011 09:17 AM


Greg Brandow photo


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