He didn't say that they were in second, Hossy stated that it's the second worst divison in the league.

This is the most overrated statement that people bring up in an attempt to discredit Tebow.

a win is a win in the NFL. and its especially difficult on the road. any team has the capability to be competitive on any sunday (except the colts). the vikings played one of their best games of the season against Tebow and the Broncos still won on the road.

good point. i take that back!

though there is something incorrect. he was referencing Tebow critics. Tebow is 6-1, not 7-5. You certainly can't pin the 1-4 start on Tebow.

Hes wrong about the Texans, not really sure what hes being thanked for. Not that it would matter for a first round game anyway because if they are both in the playoffs they are likely division winners. The Texans have a rookie QB. A great RB and great D. Denver plays D and would make the Texans 1 dimensional. Denver would have a huge chance to beat them in Denver.

For Broncos/Tebows fans it is nothing more than a freeroll right now. Regardless of what happens they believe (and rightfully so) that their season is a sucess no matter what. Playoffs weren't even in their vocabulary at the begining of the season and amazingly they still have a chance to get in. For the critics, it more about Tebow's individual performance and more importantly the playoffs, so until Timmy gets them there/wins a playoff game, the critics will pretty much consider it a failed expierment.

Maybe, but they would need a miracle to end up playing anything more than one playoff game at home.

I know, the point is really moot. For anyone to say the Texans would destroy them is just silly. I think Denver would get beat by New England, Baltimore and I guess Pittsburg, even though I dont like Pittsburg this year. Anyone else Denver can beat. Not really because of Tebow, but that defense has been awesome.

Winning more than 6 games this year was going to be considered a 'miracle'. Playing a playoff game, 3 or 4 miracles minimum. Playing a HOME playoff game, out of the question.
All of these are now possible at least partially because of the QB switch.
It is fun, enjoy it, you would if you lived here. This has been one sad football town for many years.

I kind of figured that if they made the playoffs, it would have to be as a divison winner ensuring a home game.

Like I said in the other post, Broncos fans are probably just ecstatic to still be in the race this late in the season.

The defense that just made Christian Ponder look like Dan Marino? They gave up nearly 500 yards to Minnesota. What good offenses did they shut down in the prior games during their winning streak?

Since Week 2 the Texans have allowed one 100 yd rusher, Ray Rice, who got 101 in a Week 6 win. During that span the Texans have shut down Maurice Jones-Drew twice, Chris Johnson, LaGarrette Blount, and Michael Turner. Stack that on top of allowing Darren McFadden 51 yds rushing in Week 5 and Rashard Mendenhall 25 yds in Week 4.

So, Denver would beat Houston throwing the ball? Teams facing the Texans have completed 49.8% of their passes, the next lowest percentage is Oakland allowing 52.3%. They've allowed the fewest passing yards, are tied for the 2nd highest amount of interceptions and opposing QBs have a passer rating of 60.7 against them.

So St. Timmy is going to torch them through the air? The Minnesota defense he played last week is awful and that made him look good. They also focused all of their attention on Eric Decker and allowed Demaryius Thomas, who had been non-existent in the Broncos offense to get free for a few big gains.

The Texans would beat Denver by at least 10 no matter where the game is played with TJ Yates, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Garcia, or the three of them platooning.

Everything you say is correct, but playoff football is mostly won by D and the QB. I would give the slight advantage to Denver. The Texans are 1 and done anyway, Pittsburg or Baltimore will beat them in the first round. Maybe they get lucky and draw the Jets. They will win that, then go lose at New England or Pitt or Baltimore. Whoever has the other bye.

Who are you giving them the advantage over at the QB position?

TJ Yates, no?

Wasn't sure if you were just talking about the Texans.

I dont think Denver can beat the Pats or Ravens. In Denver, maybe they can beat Pittsburg. Anyone else I think they can beat home or road.

Putting aside the fact that the Jets were coming off their most devastating loss in the Rex era:

0-13. Oh and Thirteen.

Those damn Rockies...

Nevermind, same side.

Durr hurr.

Everyone is beating them up over who they have beaten and how... has everyone forgotten they were the 2nd worst team in the league last year? Of course their schedule is weak. Aside from them playing the best and second best divisions in football from both conferences as their out of division opponents.

If they do happen to beat New England next week it will be only because "the Pats D is injured" or "they are the worst Pats team for years" all while the Pats keep winning and winning...

exactly. its annoying and stupid. "Timmy's only 6-1 because he's played 6 crappy teams" nonsense.

Though I wouldn't put $ on Denver beating the Pats.. Tom Brady is still the man.

It's not nonsense. They've beaten four lousy teams and two decent teams playing with handicaps. He deserves credit for playing well at the end of games, but do you honestly think they have a prayer of winning a playoff game with him at quarterback?

Im a die hard Pats fan and I will tell you we are not winning a Super Bowl this year. No vertical thread, no pound the ball running game and the D has been ****. This is finally Baltimores year to come out. With that being said, we can handle Denver home or away.

It all depends on who the team is, and if they make the playoffs they will likely be at home. If its the Jets, and your a Jets fan how much confidence would you have going into Denver? I would like Denver alot vs the Jets or Titans. It all depends on who makes it in.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the Jets would beat them in the playoffs. By double digits. Please don't forget that Tebow did absolutely nothing against my defense before finally putting together one very good drive.

Im not saying Tebow is the man though. The Jets did not do much with the ball in that game. I feel like thats the matchup Denver needs. Somehow the Jets or Titans. If not they are 1 and done if they even get in. Im not even saying they will def. beat the Jets, I just think they will have a good chance. Im not making any Joey S lock predictions though. I still like Oakland, but they wont win this week.

yes, because of their defense and because they don't turn it over and can control the clock with rushing (as long as they get 1st downs).

and it is nonsense. there is a lot of warranted criticism (throwing motion, completion percentage), but that is not one of them. He's won 4 games on the road. That's difficult no matter who you play (again, except the Colts). This is the NFL, it's not like they are the LSU Tigers scheduling some D-1AA school. 6-1 is a great record for a starter, no matter what division, what league and what your schedule looks like.

Every single week, the critics say "Denver can't beat so and so".. and then they go win. GBBOB should be eating some crow, even if Denver loses out.

John Fox makes great game plans to focus on the teams strengths (andy reid.. take some fucl<ing notes). The teammates believe in one another and believe they will win. Coaching and leadership helps overcome some inabilities. Tebow is improving as a passer every week. against the Vikings, he was accurate and led his receivers to the right spots with his passes. he was 10-15, with two bad drops (one would have been a TD) and one pass was thrown out of bounds to avoid a sack. So out of 15 throws, only 2 were off target.

really hard to tell...hell, the seahawks beat the saints last year. depends on who they face.

Cam Newton is none of those things.
I can understand how a Bama fan would have so much hate though. He did break your heart last year.

Great game plans? WOW. If anything he has butchered Tebow? Why are they trash for 3 quarters then unstopable late? If it has to be uptempo all game it should be. The coaching is bad in Denver right now.

how can you disagree that Newton's father is a pimp?

Newton was a selfish thug in college. He seems to have matured though.

They both have tough schedules down the stretch. The Broncos catch a break with the Bears being badly beat up this week. But then they have the Pats at home, @ Buffalo and home for KC. While the Raiders are @ GB, home for the Lions, @ KC and home for the Chargers. It really could go either way.
I think I would give a slight advantage to the Raiders just because I tink they will beat the Lions at home next week versus the Broncos losing this week (despite all the injuries to the Bears).

But if the Broncos do get in, I think the only way they don't go one and done is if they catch the Titans in the first round. Otherwise they are toast.

bullsh!t. cam and his father had wheeling and dealing going on. the fact the ncaa didn't do squat means nothing in that regard.

Denver is supposed to finish 3-1 if they are legit. Anything else tells me they are no good.

??????

He changed the entire offensive playbook to fit Tebow! He coaches a top defense! If Denver makes the Playoffs then Fox is right up with with Harbaugh for Coach of the year, IMO.

Look at the one game he made Tebow a drop back passer (lions) and tell me again that Fox doesnt put together great game plans.

Im not a fan of Fox. It makes no sense to me that this guy can be unstopable late in games, and look so bad that people say he does not belong in the NFL early in games. Plus rumor is Fox and Elway dont want Tebow. They dont want him to do well, and they want to draft there QB. Might be to late for all that.

Elway might think that but I dont believe Fox does. You can tell by his quotes about Tebow. Bullshit Fox doesnt want him to do well, he's a head coach in the NFL, your job is always on the line (unless you coach the eagles).

I think they are better in the 2nd half because they are pretty much the only team in football that runs the Option offense. You have no idea how the opposing teams defense will gameplan for that offense. So, once you get an idea.. Fox makes good adjustments at halftime.

Once again the defense should get some credit for keeping them in these games where the offense isn't lighting it up.

certainly. the D is the reason the team is 6-1 in the past 7 games.

good god, :zz:, you guys are all getting paid to be doing something else at least, right? :p