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pmayjr 04-05-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmayjr (Post 922225)
I know Verrazano and Vyjack are very worthy favorites. But I'm curious about Always in a Tiz. He's been green in his starts. Schettino was supposed to run him in the Rebel, and decided to give him more time to train. They add blinkers, and Borel ships in to ride him (lateral move from Paco Lopez? Downgrade? Upgrade?). There's a good chance he finishes up the track, but I just wanna see 1 more from him before I totally give up.

Just quoting and pasting this in here too so you guys can give me extra ridicule lol

Kasept 04-08-2013 07:15 AM

Updated
 
4/13: ARKANSAS DERBY

Oxbow (Lukas)
Overanalyze (Pletcher)
Texas Bling (Dunham)
Falling Sky (Terranova)
Den's Legacy (Baffert)
War Academy (Baffert)
Heaven's Runway (Martin)
Looking Cool (Nafzger)
Demonic (Sadler)
Carve (Asmussen)



4/13: BLUE GRASS STAKES

14 maximum. In order of preference (GSW first; Earnings second)

Uncaptured (Casse)
Noble Tune (C. Brown)
Dynamic Sky (Casse)
West Hills Giant (Terranova)
Java's War (McPeek)
Charming Kitten (Pletcher)
Rydullic (Contessa)
Fear the Kitten (Maker)
Palice Malice (Pletcher)
Undrafted (Ward)
Channel Isle (Lukas)
My Name Is Michael (Mott)
Tesseron (Jo. Carroll)
Dewey Square (Romans)
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Footbridge (Harty)
Eton Blue (Zito)

Kasept 04-08-2013 07:15 AM

5/4: KENTUCKY DERBY

Orb (McGaughey/Rosario)
Verrazano (Pletcher/Velazquez)
Goldencents (O'Neill/Krigger)
Revolutionary (Pletcher/Castellano)
Lines of Battle (O'Brien/Moore)
Vyjack (Rodriguez/TBD)
Will Take Charge (Lukas/Court)
Itsmyluckyday (Plesa/Trujillo)
Govenor Charlie (Baffert/Bejarano)
Black Onyx (Breen/Bravo)
Normandy Invasion (Brown/Lezcano)
My Lute (Amoss/Mena)
Oxbow (Lukas/Stevens)
Uncaptured (Casse/Bridgmohan)
Super Ninety Nine (Baffert/Garcia)
Java's War (McPeek/Martinez)
Merit Man (Hess/Desormeaux)
Den's Legacy (Baffert/Albarado)
Falling Sky (Terranova/Espinoza)

herkhorse 04-08-2013 07:28 PM

Borel picks up the mount on Texas Bling, lowering his price.:mad: I'll be pulling for Carve as well.

Sightseek 04-09-2013 09:22 PM

Wow.

You know things have changed in thoroughbred racing when even D. Wayne Lukas decides to train up to the Derby.


http://www.drf.com/news/kentucky-der...ill-train-race

Kasept 04-13-2013 08:03 PM

1. Orb 150 Stuart Janney III & Phipps Stable (Ogden Mills “Dinny” Phipps) Shug McGaughey III $840,000
2. Verrazano 150 Let’s Go Stable, Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor & Derrick Smith Todd Pletcher $810,000
3. Goldencents 129 W.C. Racing (Josh Kaplan & Glenn Sorgenstein), Dave Kenney & RAP Racing (Rick Pitino) Doug O’Neill $1,208,000
4. Java’s War 122 Charles Fipke Ken McPeek $651,772
5. Overanalyze 110 Repole Stable (Mike Repole) Todd Pletcher $908,381
6. Revolutionary 110 WinStar Farm LLC (Kenny Troutt) Todd Pletcher $720,000
7. Lines of Battle 100 Joseph Allen, Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor & Derrick Smith Aidan O’Brien $1,261,089
8. Vyjack 70 Pick Six Racing (David Wilkenfeld) Rudy Rodriguez $505,000
9. Will Take Charge 60 Willis D. Horton D. Wayne Lukas $512,971
10. Itsmyluckyday 50 Trilogy Stable (Marion Montanari & David Melin) & Laurie Plesa Eddie Plesa Jr. $593,600
11. Govenor Charlie 50 Mike Pegram Bob Baffert $400,000
12. Black Onyx+ 50 Sterling Racing (Sam Herzberg) Kelly Breen $317,130
13. Palace Malice 50 Dogwood Stable, Inc. (W. Cothran “Cot” Campbell) Todd Pletcher $200,000
14. Normandy Invasion 44 Fox Hill Farms Inc. (Rick Porter) Chad Brown $258,000
15. Frac Daddy 44 Magic City Thoroughbred Partners (Carter Stewart) Ken McPeek $240,596
16. Mylute 42 GoldMark Farm, LLC (T. Paul Bulmahn) & Whisper Hill Farm (Amanda Pope) Tom Amoss $363,365
17. Oxbow 36 Calumet Farm (Brad Kelley) D. Wayne Lukas $346,000
18. Uncaptured 30 John C. Oxley Mark Casse $396,341 **
19. Super Ninety Nine 30 Tanma Corporation (Susan Chu) Bob Baffert $308,000 **
20. Falling Sky 30 Newtown Anner Stud, James Covello & Joseph Bulger John Terranova II $207,50
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21. Merit Man 20 Bruce Chandler, Robert H. McKee & James Glavin Bob Hess Jr. $357,500 **
22. Den’s Legacy 20 Westrock Stables LLC (Scott & Joe Ford) Bob Baffert $329,000 **
23. Charming Kitten 20 Ken & Sarah Ramsey Todd Pletcher $206,000
24. Departing 20 Claiborne Farm (Seth Hancock) & Adele B. Dilschneider Al Stall Jr. $130,000
25. West Hills Giant 20 Long Island Racing Stables, Sunrise Stables, Bentivegna John Terranova II $90,666

cmorioles 04-13-2013 08:16 PM

What does the pink mean?

RockHardTen1985 04-13-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 923584)
What does the pink mean?

They own the tie breaker?

Kasept 04-13-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 923584)
What does the pink mean?

Doubtful for Derby (as of now)..

justindew 04-13-2013 08:35 PM

What kind of odds do we think we will see on Charming Kitten in the Lexington?

Kasept 04-14-2013 07:25 AM

4/20: ILLINOIS DERBY

Dewey Square (Romans)
Departing (Stall)
Abraham (Pletcher)
Carried Interest (Violette)
Narvaez (Bezara)
Show Some Magic (Dominguez)
Siete de Oros (Preciado)
Stormin Monarcho (Berndt)

Kasept 04-14-2013 07:36 AM

4/20: LEXINGTON STAKES

Squall King (Romans)
Pure Fun (McPeek)**
Taken by the Storm (McPeek)
River Rocks (Catalano)
Cerro (Motion)
Examen (Proctor)
Hip Four Sixty Nine (Barnett)
Johnny Handsome (Gabriel Jr.)
Pick of the Litter (Romans)
Title Contender (Catalano)
Where’s Dominic (Trombetta)

tjfla 04-14-2013 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew (Post 923592)
What kind of odds do we think we will see on Charming Kitten in the Lexington?

O Odds cause he only is 3rd on the list at 20 Pts,Super 99 and Uncaptured are doubtful. 1/2 at 20 are Merit Man and Den's Legacy and both of them are 50/50 which means Ramsey is in!!

Kasept 04-14-2013 02:43 PM

5/4: KENTUCKY DERBY -- WITH SUNDAY APRIL 14th UPDATES

1. Orb 150 Stuart Janney III & Phipps Stable (Ogden Mills “Dinny” Phipps) Shug McGaughey III $840,000
2. Verrazano 150 Let’s Go Stable, Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor & Derrick Smith Todd Pletcher $810,000
3. Goldencents 129 W.C. Racing (Josh Kaplan & Glenn Sorgenstein), Dave Kenney & RAP Racing (Rick Pitino) Doug O’Neill $1,208,000
4. Java’s War 122 Charles Fipke Ken McPeek $651,772
5. Overanalyze 110 Repole Stable (Mike Repole) Todd Pletcher $908,381
6. Revolutionary 110 WinStar Farm LLC (Kenny Troutt) Todd Pletcher $720,000
7. Lines of Battle 100 Joseph Allen, Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor & Derrick Smith Aidan O’Brien $1,261,089
8. Vyjack 70 Pick Six Racing (David Wilkenfeld) Rudy Rodriguez $505,000
9. Will Take Charge 60 Willis D. Horton D. Wayne Lukas $512,971
10. Itsmyluckyday 50 Trilogy Stable (Marion Montanari & David Melin) & Laurie Plesa Eddie Plesa Jr. $593,600
11. Govenor Charlie 50 Mike Pegram Bob Baffert $400,000
12. Black Onyx+ 50 Sterling Racing (Sam Herzberg) Kelly Breen $317,130
13. Palace Malice 50 Dogwood Stable, Inc. (W. Cothran “Cot” Campbell) Todd Pletcher $200,000
14. Normandy Invasion 44 Fox Hill Farms Inc. (Rick Porter) Chad Brown $258,000
15. Frac Daddy 44 Magic City Thoroughbred Partners (Carter Stewart) Ken McPeek $240,596
16. Mylute 42 GoldMark Farm, LLC (T. Paul Bulmahn) & Whisper Hill Farm (Amanda Pope) Tom Amoss $363,365
17. Oxbow 36 Calumet Farm (Brad Kelley) D. Wayne Lukas $346,000
--. Uncaptured 30 John C. Oxley Mark Casse $396,341 **
--. Super Ninety Nine 30 Tanma Corporation (Susan Chu) Bob Baffert $308,000 **
18. Falling Sky 30 Newtown Anner Stud, James Covello & Joseph Bulger John Terranova II $207,50
--. Merit Man 20 Bruce Chandler, Robert H. McKee & James Glavin Bob Hess Jr. $357,500
19. Den’s Legacy 20 Westrock Stables LLC (Scott & Joe Ford) Bob Baffert $329,000
20. Charming Kitten 20 Ken & Sarah Ramsey Todd Pletcher $206,000
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--. Departing 20 Claiborne Farm & Adele B. Dilschneider Al Stall Jr. $130,000
21. West Hills Giant 20 Long Island Racing Stables, Sunrise Stables, Bentivegna John Terranova II $90,666
22. Code West 20 Gary & Mary West Bob Baffert $90,000
23. Tiz a Minister 20 S. A. Y. Racing, LLC Paul Aguirre $81,000
24. Golden Soul 14 Charles Fipke Dallas Stewart $84,000
--. Dynamic Sky 13 John C. Oxley Mark Casse $290,835
25. Power Broker 10 Gary & Mary West Bob Baffert $245,000

Calzone Lord 04-14-2013 02:52 PM

A horse like West Hills Giant, who just ran 12th in the Bluegrass at 38/1 odds and his last win was last September at Finger Lakes ... he's probably going to get into the Derby if they want to go. All he needs is a single injury or defection in the next 3 weeks.

Kasept 04-14-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 923682)
A horse like West Hills Giant, who just ran 12th in the Bluegrass at 38/1 odds and his last win was last September at Finger Lakes ... he's probably going to get into the Derby if they want to go. All he needs is a single injury or defection in the next 3 weeks.

Actually, just a bit ago, Terranova let Darren Rogers know they are pulling West Hills Giant from Derby consideration! And there are more 'official declarations' including Uncaptured, Merit Man, & Departing and Den's Legacy flew back to California instead of Louisville as planned and appear withdrawn as well..

Super Ninety Nine however is under condideration... Revised listing below..

Kasept 04-14-2013 05:33 PM

5/4: KENTUCKY DERBY -- WITH SUNDAY APRIL 14th UPDATES

1. Orb 150 Stuart Janney III & Phipps Stable (Ogden Mills “Dinny” Phipps) Shug McGaughey III $840,000
2. Verrazano 150 Let’s Go Stable, Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor & Derrick Smith Todd Pletcher $810,000
3. Goldencents 129 W.C. Racing (Josh Kaplan & Glenn Sorgenstein), Dave Kenney & RAP Racing (Rick Pitino) Doug O’Neill $1,208,000
4. Java’s War 122 Charles Fipke Ken McPeek $651,772
5. Overanalyze 110 Repole Stable (Mike Repole) Todd Pletcher $908,381

6. Revolutionary 110 WinStar Farm LLC (Kenny Troutt) Todd Pletcher $720,000
7. Lines of Battle 100 Joseph Allen, Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor & Derrick Smith Aidan O’Brien $1,261,089
8. Vyjack 70 Pick Six Racing (David Wilkenfeld) Rudy Rodriguez $505,000
9. Will Take Charge 60 Willis D. Horton D. Wayne Lukas $512,971
10. Itsmyluckyday 50 Trilogy Stable (Marion Montanari & David Melin) & Laurie Plesa Eddie Plesa Jr. $593,600

11. Govenor Charlie 50 Mike Pegram Bob Baffert $400,000
12. Black Onyx+ 50 Sterling Racing (Sam Herzberg) Kelly Breen $317,130
13. Palace Malice 50 Dogwood Stable, Inc. (W. Cothran “Cot” Campbell) Todd Pletcher $200,000
14. Normandy Invasion 44 Fox Hill Farms Inc. (Rick Porter) Chad Brown $258,000
15. Frac Daddy 44 Magic City Thoroughbred Partners (Carter Stewart) Ken McPeek $240,596

16. Mylute 42 GoldMark Farm, LLC (T. Paul Bulmahn) & Whisper Hill Farm (Amanda Pope) Tom Amoss $363,365
17. Oxbow 36 Calumet Farm (Brad Kelley) D. Wayne Lukas $346,000
18. Super Ninety Nine 30 Tanma Corporation (Susan Chu) Bob Baffert $308,000[/i] **
19. Falling Sky 30 Newtown Anner Stud, James Covello & Joseph Bulger John Terranova II $207,50
20. Charming Kitten 20 Ken & Sarah Ramsey Todd Pletcher $206,000
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21. Code West 20 Gary & Mary West Bob Baffert $90,000
22. Tiz a Minister 20 S. A. Y. Racing, LLC Paul Aguirre $81,000
23. Golden Soul 14 Charles Fipke Dallas Stewart $84,000
24. Power Broker 10 Gary & Mary West Bob Baffert $245,000

my miss storm cat 04-14-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 923616)
4/20: ILLINOIS DERBY

Dewey Square (Romans)

He may not win the Derby or this or much of anything but he sure has some cute videos (and I don't care how much of a moron I sound like saying so). :D

pweizer 04-14-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 923732)
Actually, just a bit ago, Terranova let Darren Rogers know they are pulling West Hills Giant from Derby consideration! And there are more 'official declarations' including Uncaptured, Merit Man, & Departing and Den's Legacy flew back to California instead of Louisville as planned and appear withdrawn as well..

Super Ninety Nine however is under condideration... Revised listing below..

If you were Baffert, wouldn't you rather run Code West (who would be next on the list) than Super 99?

Paul

3kings 04-14-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 923746)
If you were Baffert, wouldn't you rather run Code West (who would be next on the list) than Super 99?

Paul

Probably but they have different owners, so he may not be making the decision. Sadly, there will probaby be at least one defection because of injury, so it won't matter.


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