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Cannon Shell 09-05-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
So now we need to GUESS about how she felt today..Ok Dr Doolittle..The Jock gave her head because he knew that was the only way she could win.. Borel please it was a complete bone head ride. Scav would have won by 3 on her..And likes to be ridden

Did you not see her before the race? How do you know he wasnt told to go to the front? Assmussen is an expert instruction giver. He was a jockey you know?

tector 09-05-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
So now we need to GUESS about how she felt today..Ok Dr Doolittle..The Jock gave her head because he knew that was the only way she could win.

Interesting technique.

freddymo 09-05-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Get a grip. No one said it wasnt fast. Going fast early is how most races are won isnt it? That is how the horse runs, plain and simple. If the fracions were 23, 46.41 there would be a whole lot less hysteria about the pace.

The pace was wicked fast..Move on Sir..

Cannon Shell 09-05-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
The pace was wicked fast..Move on Sir..

The ride was fine. You should be complaining about the 7 boneheads in the Linda Rice fixer on the turf in the 4th.

freddymo 09-05-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Did you not see her before the race? How do you know he wasnt told to go to the front? Assmussen is an expert instruction giver. He was a jockey you know?


Ok now I am to believe that Assmussen didn't read the program and recognize the Bullet work on Ta Dara or his role in the race.. So now one on the most successful trainers in land told Borel go hook DaTara wide because Rachel is a little tired eventhough Terry has been in print that she is fresher then ever..Where did you buy these beans the same place that Jack bought his?

Cannon Shell 09-05-2009 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Ok now I am to believe that Assmussen didn't read the program and recognize the Bullet work on Ta Dara or his role in the race.. So now one on the most successful trainers in land told Borel go hook DaTara wide because Rachel is a little tired eventhough Terry has been in print that she is fresher then ever..Where did you buy these beans the same place that Jack bought his?

Perhaps he told him to keep her out of trouble or in the clear?

zippyneedsawin 09-05-2009 06:18 PM

replay...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrTMpHvew0U

freddymo 09-05-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Perhaps he told him to keep her out of trouble or in the clear?

Chuck do you typically ask your jocks to get your horses in trouble?

Cannon Shell 09-05-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Chuck do you typically ask your jocks to get your horses in trouble?

That is not pertinent. I do ask that they stay out of trouble with a horse with her free running style.

freddymo 09-05-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The ride was fine. You should be complaining about the 7 boneheads in the Linda Rice fixer on the turf in the 4th.

You are on top of your game today..

Per Crist on the 4th race:
Dominguez and Rice-trained Mother Russia put the field asleep behind them wiring the 4th, but the official fractions of 25.19, 49.94, 1:14.37 and 1:36.47 mean that the front-runner ran progressively faster quarters of 25.19, 24.75, 24.43 and 22.10. This would also mean that Exclusive Scheme, who closed two lengths in th final quarter to be third, came home in something like 21.75. I'm just not buying it.

freddymo 09-05-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
That is not pertinent. I do ask that they stay out of trouble with a horse with her free running style.

She isn't a NEED the lead horse did you watch the Goose or the Haskell?

Cannon Shell 09-05-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
You are on top of your game today..

Per Crisrt on the 4th race:
Dominguez and Rice-trained Mother Russia put the field asleep behind them wiring the 4th, but the official fractions of 25.19, 49.94, 1:14.37 and 1:36.47 mean that the front-runner ran progressively faster quarters of 25.19, 24.75, 24.43 and 22.10. This would also mean that Exclusive Scheme, who closed two lengths in th final quarter to be third, came home in something like 21.75. I'm just not buying it.

That was a Jerry Bailey special. He is on the main speed and everyone takes back and concedes the race.

Cannon Shell 09-05-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
She isn't a NEED the lead horse did you watch the Goose or the Haskell?

She also isnt a horse that wants to be sitting behind, bottled up behind D'Tara and Past his Prime.

Cannon Shell 09-05-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
You are on top of your game today..

Per Crisrt on the 4th race:
Dominguez and Rice-trained Mother Russia put the field asleep behind them wiring the 4th, but the official fractions of 25.19, 49.94, 1:14.37 and 1:36.47 mean that the front-runner ran progressively faster quarters of 25.19, 24.75, 24.43 and 22.10. This would also mean that Exclusive Scheme, who closed two lengths in th final quarter to be third, came home in something like 21.75. I'm just not buying it.

Arent the races still hand timed on the turf?

freddymo 09-05-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
That was a Jerry Bailey special. He is on the main speed and everyone takes back and concedes the race.

Perhaps we should wait till the real fractions are rep'd..Until the data is corrected you and I are completely guessing.

Cannon Shell 09-05-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Perhaps we should wait till the real fractions are rep'd..Until the data is corrected you and I are completely guessing.

They looked like they were walking. Funny they showed a race from this summer at Belmont (an allowance I think) and Mother Russia was stopping like D'Tara down the stretch. Now she is the new female version of Win

Travis Stone 09-05-2009 06:43 PM

Early position relative to finish position... insane...

1st Rachel Alexandra
8th Macho Again
6th Bullsbay
7th Asiatic Boy
5th It's a Bird
3rd Past the Point
4th Cool Coal Man
2nd Da' Tara

freddymo 09-05-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
She also isnt a horse that wants to be sitting behind, bottled up behind D'Tara and Past his Prime.

Why are these horse different than any of the other horses she has rated behind in the past even as a 2 year old? Bottled up? all she had to do was not press the lead. Now we have to assume she would get bottled up..What was this a 5.5f turf sprint.. The only and I mean only possible excuse for this absurd trip is the horse was so rank that she would not settle. I saw her act up in the parade but ever so slightly Borel lost his balance he wasn't tossed off. She looked absolutely fine once they broke and wasn't even afforded the thought of settling off the pace. If bailey was on her she would have won by five. He would have sat her 3rd or 4th on the outside of the horrendous speed and sent her at the 3/4 pole and laughed thru the lane.

freddymo 09-05-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
They looked like they were walking. Funny they showed a race from this summer at Belmont (an allowance I think) and Mother Russia was stopping like D'Tara down the stretch. Now she is the new female version of Win

I have no love for magic Rice pudding either..trust me it's gross.. i wonder how or if she can tell one turf sprinter from the other in the barn. They may all be the same dam horse for all I know..lol

freddymo 09-05-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Early position relative to finish position... insane...

1st Rachel Alexandra
8th Macho Again
6th Bullsbay
7th Asiatic Boy
5th It's a Bird
3rd Past the Point
4th Cool Coal Man
2nd Da' Tara


Cool Coal Man is a pretty decent sort.. The pace was ridiculous, the ride was absurd and a filly overcame it all.. She is friggin amazing.


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