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RHT2004 05-27-2016 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1065570)
Creator is the. Best bet of the year to win the Belmont

More likely to be last.

Kasept 05-27-2016 12:23 PM

DRF LIVE/GRENING: Stradivari likely for Belmont

It is not a done deal just yet, but listening to trainer Todd Pletcher talk, it sounds very much as if he would like to run Stradivari back in the Belmont Stakes.

Stradivari ran a very credible fourth in the Preakness -- his stakes debut -- and thus far he's come out of it well, Pletcher said. Pletcher said he hasn't yet spoken to the owners of Stradivari -- John Gunther, Derrick Smith, Susan Magnier and Michael Tabor -- but unless they have an objection to running, Pletcher would like to give it a go.

"If he continues to do well, I think we'll have that discussion," Pletcher said Friday morning. "But I'd be happy with what I'm seeing."

Pletcher plans to breeze Stradivari next Friday or Saturday at Belmont Park.

Pletcher is already pointing Tampa Bay Derby winner Destin to the Belmont.

Kasept 05-29-2016 07:25 AM

It's All Relevant (Schettino) and Wild About Deb (D'Amato) added as Belmont possibles..

Kasept 05-29-2016 07:26 AM

6/11 (BEL): BELMONT STAKES

Exaggerator (Desormeaux)
Cherry Wine (Romans)
Lani (Matsunaga)
Creator (Asmussen)
Stradivari (Pletcher)
Destin (Pletcher)
Suddenbreakingnews (Von Hemel)
Brody's Cause (Romans)
Governor Malibu (Clement)
Wild About Deb (D'Amato)
Trojan Nation (Gallagher)
Forever d'Oro (Stewart)
Seeking the Soul (Stewart)

Mo Tom (Amoss)
It's All Relevant (Schettino)

Rileyoriley 05-29-2016 01:33 PM

Mike Smith will ride SBN in the Belmont.

Dunbar 05-30-2016 11:59 AM

per Bloodhorse...Mo Tom is bypassing the Belmont. Will run in Ohio Derby June 25.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...icial-ridgling

(last paragraph)

Alabama Stakes 05-30-2016 12:54 PM

There is no speed in the Belmont

Is there a race for mo d'amour that day goin a flat mile ?

cakes44 05-30-2016 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley (Post 1065793)
Mike Smith will ride SBN in the Belmont.

I'm going to overthink this jock change a bunch. Are connections doing it strictly to have a better rider? Do they want the horse closer to the pace? Do they feel Smith is better on closers?

I could see Smith working this horse all the way up to a pressing position, just because Smith is basically a first or last pace guy. Just not sure if it helps the horse or not.

Alabama Stakes 05-31-2016 12:32 AM

I'm pretty sure they put Smith on the hoss because he is now a ridgling

RHT2004 05-31-2016 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1065870)
There is no speed in the Belmont

Is there a race for mo d'amour that day goin a flat mile ?

She is slow.

Alabama Stakes 05-31-2016 03:03 PM

Takes one to know one . She will win the Alabama Stakes . This I know .

Revidere 05-31-2016 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1065942)
I'm pretty sure they put Smith on the hoss because he is now a ridgling

Wouldn't they use someone from Brooklyn?

Alabama Stakes 05-31-2016 05:43 PM

You gonna go take some pretty pictures Gene ?

Kasept 06-01-2016 11:19 AM

Stewart considering Belmont Stakes for two recent maiden winners
By Dave Grening

Trainer Dallas Stewart has two recent maiden winners he’s considering wheeling back on short notice for the $1.5 million Belmont Stakes on June 11.

Forever d’Oro, who won a maiden race by a nose at Belmont Park on Sunday, and Seeking the Soul, who won a maiden race by a neck at Churchill on Sunday, are both under consideration for the Belmont, Stewart said Wednesday.

Forever d’Oro, a half-sister to Grade 1 winners Forever Unbridled and Unbridled Forever, overcame a slow start to get up in the final strides and win a 1 1-16-mile maiden race here. He ran the distance in 1:43.22 and earned an 81 Beyer Speed Figure.

“I thought he ran great,” Stewart said by phone from Kentucky. “He wasn’t standing very well when they broke it, he got off sideways kind of stumbled and was way back. He can be much closer than that.”

Stewart said Forever d’Oro having a race over the track “is a big positive. I really, really like the horse.”

Stewart said he would train Forever d’Oro for a week and see how the horse is doing.

“He might be tearing the barn down and he can run back or he might need a month,” Stewart said.

Seeking the Soul, a son of Perfect Soul, won a one-mile maiden race by a neck at Churchill. He ran the mile in 1:34.15 and earned a Beyer Speed Figure of 88.

“We’re kicking it around,” Stewart said when asked about the Belmont.

Stewart has particpated in the last three runnings of the Belmont with Golden Soul (ninth in 2013), Commanding Curve (ninth in 2014) and Tale of Verve (7th in 2015).

Both horses are owned by Charles Fipke, who had run horses in two of the last three Belmonts.

Joel Rosario rode Forever d’Oro to his maiden victory Sunday, but he is riding Governor Malibu in the Belmont. Florent Geroux rode Seeking the Soul in his maiden win at Churchill and does not currently have a Belmont mount.

Kasept 06-01-2016 12:51 PM

Clocker: Lani looking professional
By Mike Welsch

BELMONT PARK
Track: Fast
Weather: Clear
Temp.: 74

ELMONT, N.Y. – About the only impressions Lani made while training at Churchill Downs in the weeks leading up to the Kentucky Derby were negative ones. In fact, his temperament was such that he was given permission to leave the paddock well in advance of his 19 rivals in Kentucky Derby for both his own safety and that of the large crowd in the saddling enclosure.

But Lani has made great strides since then. And those who saw him on a regular basis in Louisville would find it hard to believe after watching him train here Wednesday that this was the same horse who would refuse to break off or extend himself during workouts, terrorize the gate crew, squeal at other horses, and display other misbehavior before exiting the racetrack after training sessions at Churchill Downs.

Lani officially worked five-eighths in 1:02.36 and galloped out six furlongs in 1:15.96 at Belmont on Wednesday for the June 11 Belmont Stakes. But those numbers really don’t tell the whole story. Prior to breaking off for the work, Lani walked approximately one mile, jogged another six furlongs, open galloped at a two-minute lick (15-second eighths) for nearly six more furlongs, then gradually increased his pace entering the clubhouse turn a third time, and was timed on my watch 1 1/8 miles to the wire in 1:56.02. He got his final mile in a very respectable 1:42.08.

Granted, Lani was being asked to finish, and he drifted slightly and had his ears pinned at the end. And taken as just a run-of-the-mill five-furlong breeze, the move would be considered average at best. But when considering his whole body of work Wednesday, this was a pretty good morning for a Belmont longshot who seems fit enough to handle the grueling distance. Lani gives every indication that he’s become much more professional and is doing a lot better heading into the final leg of the Triple Crown.

It was a fairly routine morning for the four other confirmed Belmont starters on the grounds.

Exaggerator changed things up a bit Wednesday, jogging two miles on the training track after being allowed to stretch his legs a bit and open gallop some on the main track the previous morning.

Destin followed his regular routine, also on the training track, galloping approximately 1 3/8 miles while again seemingly getting stronger as he turned into the backstretch the final time. Destin did not get quite as warm as usual Wednesday while again training in blinkers.

Governor Malibu was the first of the Belmont horses to train, turning in another routine gallop on the main track shortly before 6 a.m.

Revidere 06-01-2016 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1065958)
You gonna go take some pretty pictures Gene ?

Hoping to. Depends on the restrictions....

Kasept 06-03-2016 03:38 PM

Trojan Nation confirmed as Belmont Starter as the Year of the Stakes Maiden continues..

cakes44 06-03-2016 04:54 PM

Good deal. I was starting to worry there wasn't going to be enough plodders in the race.

Kasept 06-04-2016 10:49 AM

Both Stewart/Fipke MDN winners running in the Belmont.

Kasept 06-05-2016 01:13 PM

1. Exaggerator (Desormeaux)
2. Cherry Wine (Romans)
3. Lani (Matsunaga)
4. Creator (Asmussen)
5. Stradivari (Pletcher)
6. Destin (Pletcher)
7. Suddenbreakingnews (Von Hemel)
8. Brody's Cause (Romans)
9. Governor Malibu (Clement)
10. Trojan Nation (Gallagher)
11. Forever d'Oro (Stewart)
12. Seeking the Soul (Stewart)
13. Gettysburg (Asmussen)


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