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AL GORE Hypocrisy
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Careful...he'll try and put you in a lockbox.
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The story broke on the Drudge site. Interesting that other media outlets picked it up and ran with it....like they have the same access to Gore's utility bills as Drudge does. Anyway, here's Gore's response: http://thinkprogress.org/?tag=Global+Warming |
Gore's response is as lame as the facts presented in the original story. If in fact he does have solar panels installed etc he's even more of a pig than I thought. Either that or his solar panels don't work. Another case of 'do as I say and not as I do'.
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What part of the carbon offset thing does the right not understand?
What I find hilarious is that the same people screaming that global warming is a hoax are perfectly happy to scream that Gore is using carbon (well duh, Einsteins; it's just about impossible to not use it- he tries to cut down where he can and buys carbon offsets to cover what he uses). If you think global warming is such a big hoax, why do you even care? |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_...y_conservation The key to conservation is understanding no one is going to be perfect, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't make an effort, each and every one of us, to cut back where we can. Walk or bike ride short trips. Park in the first parking space you see- don't drive around and around looking for a closer spot. Don't idle the car. Keep the house a little cooler in the winter and a little warmer in the summer. Buy recycled paper. It's something. Gore is making an effort. He's not going to be perfect; none of us are, but my God, at least he's trying. |
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well I'd love to see Gore riding a bike, planting a tree, etc etc. He doesn't but wants you and I to do so. Remember his quote on Oprah that he and his family once tried to re-plant his Christmas tree but it didn't work. So not only does he use the electricity an avg family uses in a year in the space of 30 days but he is also a complete moron to think a harvested Christmas tree can be replanted. I'm not arguing global warming as it exists and has to be stopped but Al Gore either has to shut his mouth or buck up and make some personal sacrifices.
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He is bucking up, for the love of Pete, and he's being vocal about it so hopefully some of us will buck up a bit, too. Because one man doing a lot is worth nothing compared to a lot of people doing a little. Wash laundry in cold water Line dry your clothes Pack your lunch (uses fewer disposable containers than buying it every day) Recycle your printer cartridges Buy Energy Saver appliances. |
Nicole, doing great hope all is well with you. But I don't believe for a second that he even drives what more a hybrid. He probably does have one in his heated garage and bet he doesn't even know how to start it. As far as riding a bike one look at him will give you the answer to that one.
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Dellinger,
Something stinks about this story. How did the Tennessee Institute for Policy research get access to Gore's utility bills? This "non-story" smells like a smear. http://www.opednews.com/articles/gen...convenient.htm |
Well here's the answer. We can use any and all the energy we want. No worry. All you got to do is buy sufficient "carbon offsets" to cover your use and there will magically be zero polution.
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Do you really understand how carbon offsets work? I'm not trying to put up a blind ass-cover for Gore, sure he could use less energy. With a house that size, he will still of course, use more energy than most. Think of it this way. His bill is 20x the average bill. Of course it is, he has a 20 room house. I'm sure that "non-partisan" group conveniently left out how they calculated their average, using every single energy user, including those in studio and one-bedroom apartments all over the country. I would fully expect that someone with a house 20x bigger than my apartment would use 20x more energy than me. That's not news to anyone. Carbon offsets used to help decrease your carbon footprint are a great thing. It is always those who don't understand how they work, as if it is some fictitious way to just throw away money to make oneself feel good, who are quick to dismiss the idea. It also states quite clearly that his energy is coming from green energy sources, which is exactly what he wants people to do -- cut down on their non-envirofriendly energy consumption. I wouldn't call it a "smear," per se. I would just call it a non-issue because the whole stink is about the raw numbers of his energy use and not about the notions of where it is coming from, how it is being offset, etc etc. It's all sort of boring and convenient. Everyone's gotta have a rallying cry, I guess. Some of them just manage to make them over things that are actually important. |
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He ain't missing no meals for certain. |
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As to Big Al's choice to use renewable energy for his mansion, I'm betting that the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) provides his power. Hydroelectric power is their principal product and is really the only home energy option available in that part of the world. No "green" points there. By the way, water is not nearly so scarce as Big Al would have you believe. |
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Quote 2: YES INDEED. I understand Gore believes in what he is doing. He just needs to live it himself. Twenty flippin rooms. That is outrageous. His family alone is using about what 2000 run of the mill Chinese use. LIVE IT. It makes the efforts palatable. Ghandi he is not. Now mass-wise, he might be 3 or 4 Ghandis... |
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If you really want to dive into the Pelosi thing, you're going to come out looking like a right-wing shill. There is absolutely nothing to that story at all. Don't ruin the mini-roll you've started on the Gore thing by bringing in some partisan bullshit that has was disproved by the following day. |
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gore is a hypocrite in every sense of the word. we should expect him to use more energy since he lives in a bigger house?! that justifies him not practicing what he preaches? if he was as 'green' as he claims, he wouldn't sleep at night in his big mansion-he'd live in an eco-friendly house! ah, not so easy to practice what one preaches.
how ironic, that bush lives in a house that uses 1/4 the electricity of most houses. reminds me of the time one of the younger kennedys was on a talk show, railing about the use of SUVs...of course let's not talk about his flights in his private jet, which consumes more fuel in a trip than many humans use in a year! 'that has nothing to do with it' he sniffed. um, yeah, it does. |
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OK maybe the Pelosi thing was out of hand so insert Barbara Streisand and her RV that follows her in case she has to go to the bathroom because of her phobia to pubic restrooms. AP released the following today: Gore spokeswoman Kalee Kreider said: "Sometimes when people don't like the message, in this case that global warming is real, it's convenient to attack the messenger." Kreider said Gore purchases enough energy from renewable energy sources such as solar, wind and methane gas to balance 100 percent of his electricity costs. Gore, who owns homes in Carthage, Tenn., and in the Washington area, has said he leads a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." To balance out other carbon emissions, the Gores invest money in projects to reduce energy consumption, Kreider said. All I ask is SHOW ME THE MONEY! the key word is 'invest'. Bet when it comes down to it we will probably be shown Big Al bought some ADM stock. Yippee that will save us all! By the way I saw an interview with Darryl Hannah and she lives green and has done so for a decade so maybe Big Al could yield the floor to her. Of course there's no chance in hell that's ever going to happen. |
i think i saw a show advertised with ed begley jr, about his green lifestyle. have never seen the show tho.
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The way they were gushing over this "great" man and all of his leadership on this issue at the Oscars, you'd think he was living in a hut, grazing on pine needles and living like Ghandi.
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Look guys, Gore is forking out his own $$ to pay off his carbon use with carbon offsets. None of you seem to have any interest in addressing that, because it undercuts your screams of hypocrite. But right-wingers expect their own politicicans to be crooks and the Dems to be Gahndi, when in fact they're both just human. Gore is trying. And he's trying in a way that is also possible for the rest of us to attempt, too.
Carbon offsets are a marvelous way for people to start to combat global warming without having to go move to a hut. He's trying to show that you can live a carbon-neutral life and still HAVE A LIFE. How many Americans do you think would move to huts if Gore did? Come on. They'd say how nice it is that he's doing that and go back to turning their A/C down to 65 in August. Better to see someone doing something that frankly, we all could do (buy offsets, get our power supplied by green sources, etc.) You're not going to convince Americans they aren't entitled to big houses. How big are all your houses? I live in a 700 sq foot apartment. How about the rest of you? If I manage in 700 sq feet with no yard, why can't everyone? You're all hypocrites, yelling at me for defending Gore while you're using up more land than you need! See how stupid that sounds? No, Gore doesn't need four houses. No one does (keep that in mind, rich folks, if/when your tax handouts get taken back). But better to run them on green power than not to. And better to encourage people to run on green power than not to. He's not perfect. No one was, with the possible exception of Jesus Christ. The other thing I find entertaining is the screaming that Gore's a hypocrite because he's still, heaven forbid, using electricty, taking trips, etc. I think people use that as an excuse to absolve themselves of any sort of responsibility towards our planet ("I don't want to believe Gore drives a hybrid, therefore I don't have to do anything myself"). Typical modern American attitude- it's someone else's responsibility, not mine. So if someone doesn't live up to an impossibly high standard, then why should anyone bother? How ridiculous is that? Here's the thing with carbon offsets, like tree planting- trees are marvelous storehouses for carbon. Wood is mostly carbon- when trees grow, they basically take carbon from the atmosphere and store it in themselves. Coal and oil do the same thing, but we're not really capable of creating those in anything less than several millenia. When trees, coal, oil, etc. is burned it releases that carbon into the atmosphere, which is not good. Look at trees as toxic waste storage facilities- except ones that are environmentally sound, provide habitat for animals and are pretty to boot. As for the house bit- it takes more resources to tear down a house and build a new one than it does to attempt to make the existing one more green. Better to revamp an old house than tear it down and build new, from an envirnomental standpoint. Look, huge props to Bush for having a house heated by geothermal technology. But it doesn't take away from Gore greening his current homes without demolishing them. Reduce, reuse, recycle, right? Eat less meat- it takes 500 gallons of water to produce a single pound of beef Plant something on your lawn in place of grass Let food warm up to room temperature before microwaving it Keep enough water in the tea kettle for only as much as you're making (don't heat up a whole kettle for one cup). |
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That was better than falafel. Well done. |
Nicole,
I frankly don't believe Gore, never did. All I'm asking is for some proof he is putting up his own $$$$. Guess the 'inventor of the internet' still is ringing in my ears!!! |
So Gore gave a Powerpoint presentation, has it filmed and wins and oscar, and that's enough to prove that he cares and is doing such great things. To me he is the same as most people, they care but don't do so much about the issue because there is not much they can do. Its just that he is being praised like he was some big inspiration when he hasn't even taken easy steps he could be doing to reduce his "environmental footprint". The purchasing of credits to offset the huge waste that goes on at his house does not impress. Oh yeah, he changed his bulbs to flourescent, I guess we should notify the Nobel Prize for Humanity people because surely he is in line for something like that after having changed his bulbs.
Of course this is all after he sat in on some hearings when he was in government and as a result ended up inventing the internet. To me he epitomizes what I would call the phony do-gooders. The real heroes and leaders don't thrust themselves so willingly into the limelight and in front of every camera. Usually its up to other people, real documentarians, to discover these true heroes and tell their stories because they are too busy or not interested in receiving all the praise and accolades. |
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I'm not implying he's perfect or that he couldn't use less -- I'm just saying that there are a lot of electrical things that are going to go into keeping a home like that (which he and Tipper work out of) running on a daily basis. |
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all the bold is from me, not genuine....just seemed easier that way for my to reply.... |
 dell...I'm going to miss you tremendously. :( |
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I like to think Dell's now ruffling angel feathers, and loving every minute of it. Bush was still in the WH when this thread started. Talk about a deep cut. |
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