Tampa Thursday
 

Bigs...dammit, tell Begley to take that no riding Huber Villa Gomez off Hero's Image in the 7th tommorow:mad: I know if I use him, has no shot. If I leave him off he wins for fun. This is not the way I wanna start this pick 4 tomorrow:wf

OK Pro, I only come on here anymore to look at your avatars.....but I cannot believe HVG is like 1 for 49 at TBD, wtf happened to him? And my golf is real good right now...............REAL GOOD!

He sucks T....just really sucks.

Glad to hear your game is good. My game? I have no idea...it's been a while

golf or booty..playa

both dammit:mad: :mad:

Had some rain here today, I doubt it will be enough to take the turf off but worth mentioning there's a possibility. That first leg is crazy unless Centeno draws in

Dan, I think both Verily True and Hero's Image will both be overbet tomorrow. I really like two of the firsters, Sword Play and Go Tebow Go.

No way they come off the turf (famous last words), it was just enough rain so they don't have to run the sprinklers in the morning.

Look at HVG's seconds and thirds. Dude is choking when it matters most, in the stretch. He either can't get there with closers or can't hold on with leaders. Either way, he is as bad as they come right now. He does have a big shot in the 2nd race, but I am sure he'll find a way to f that one up too.

Not only Centeno, I'd take the 13 and 14 too, over any of the rest.

Why....why is Ramos using Djuric on the 5?????? I guess so I won't use.

There, I answered my own question.

you have a PM:)

Agreed. Will be difficult to get a price on either of them, but Scase Firsters and the Boss... gotta use

I'm with ya on Dubai Rambler, haven't drilled down deep enough to find the allure of Danzel Brendemuehl's :rolleyes: offering yet.


Velez is certainly no bargain so far

Sire 15% with firsters. 11% with turf runners. Dam has had two babies, both won at first asking. No turf there, but that is enough for me against this suspect bunch. I'd probably rather see him run on the dirt and not draw in here. I haven't given up on Velez yet. His record is just as bad as HVG, but he's not riding as bad.

Pick 4 Pre-Scratches

2,6,7,9/2,5,7/2,4/3,11

Nice :cool:


I may go over for the P4 if I can get out of the office... We've got Too Much Zip going in the 7th at the Fairgrounds tomorrow so it would be nice to watch her and take in some live action too.

I may be able to sneak over too.

Wow, is the 10th awful or what? Ripe for a couple firsters, but we can't be so lucky.

My first three legs are the same as gpk's, but I will use the 1,3,5 in the last.

I can see maybe using the 5 in the last, but the 1? really?

Mdn 8-7 :eek: as bad as it gets here (Thank God for Thistledown).... Looks to me like HVG is sitting on the winner here - As much as I hate to do it, I'm including....

Do I have to give my logic on a public forum? Because when it is bottom level maiden claimers, said logic is quite thin.

Okay kgb, here it is, Bigs' MCL 8-7000 logic as warped as it is. From the bottom to the top:

11 - Fiore De - Doesn't seem to have the speed to get to the front and hasn't exactly been finishing with a flourish. Cronk/Homeister have had 4 previous tries at this level and haven't gotten it done. Probably won't get it done today either.
10 - Trial Ridge - 11 tries, the only time hitting the board was on an off track. 19 BSF is his top in those 11 tries. Next.
9 - Winblaiseandshow - Another that doesn't have the speed to get to the front and does not finish (esp. at 6f). No shot.
8 - Supposeo - Lost by double digit lengths each time out. Did flash some speed in the slop. Only 5 starts, so possible improvement there, but not today.
7 - Speculator - Beyers improving since layoff. Showed some speed in last and has a big shot here. Will be underlayed and HVG will f' it up.
6 - Marquizi - Why ship to TuP? This horse is really bad. 20 tries to no avail.
5 - Heza King - Unlike others in here, he's only had 1 bad race. It was his only race, but I'm willing to give Allen and Allen one more crack at it before giving up on this one. Look for a better break today and this one will be more involved. Maybe.
4 - Proficient One - Dropping down for this one, but there is a reason he has been going two turns....he's slow. Look for him to trail the field with a 1% jock aboard.
3 - No Show Bill - The obvious one for me. Draw a line through the two turn slop try and the race two back crushes these. Only 4 fast track tries is a positive.
2 - Sweetsoutherndance - Four ugly races here last year. Owen McQuade is no miracle worker so I'm not expecting a big improvement off the long layoff. Nope.
1 - Double Duke - IMO the speed of the race. The 1 post forces their hand to go in order to get any position and avoid traffic. Look for Cruz to gun to the lead and try to run them off their feet. Hopefully he can relax at some point and the class drop can carry him home.

The 3 could be a single, but I don't trust him that much. 1,3,5 for me.

Go ahead and have yourself a good laugh now.

No...I see what you are seeing now.

I am very seriously considering revamping my ticket and playing against both Verily True and Heros Image in the 7th. Only reason I MAY still use VT is because Ronnie is up. Only thing is Hinsley probably couldn't have trained Ouija Board to win on the turf:zz:

Only problem with this one is that she used to be married to "he that shall remain nameless", so she has every right to f*ck me over too :wf :wf

So you are getting Ferrer'd by proxy?

It sucks man...you have no idea. Laviowhatshisname never did Scavs this wrong.

7th race post time is 3:12. The O/U at what time I get to the OTB is 2:00.

Changes
 

Just the AE's in the first leg...

Thursday, January 8, 2009

TRACK: Fast
TURF: Firm
Portable Rail: at 12 feet

Weather: Sunny – low 70’s

Super High 5 CARRYOVER: $3,471.04
Pick 6 CARRYOVER: $0


RACE 1 #4-jockey F. De La Cruz
#8-Scratched(Flying Mongoose)
#9-+2
Post Time 12:25

RACE 2
#1-Scratched(Dirtkicker) P.O.E.
#3-+1
Post Time 12:50

RACE 3 #7-+2
Post Time 1:15

RACE 4 No Changes
Post Time 1:42

RACE 5 #8-is a gelding
Post Time 2:11

RACE 6 #5-+2
Post Time 2:41

RACE 7 (Turf)
#11-Scratched(Moonshine Mania)
#12-Scratched(Distant Strike)
#13-Scratched(Into the Night)
#14-Scratched(Dubai Rambler)
Post Time 3:11

RACE 8 No Changes
Post Time 3:41

RACE 9 No Changes
Post Time 4:11

RACE 10 #4-no lasix
Post Time 4:41

Race 1 - DD

10/1,2,4,5,9

GL

It's HVG day at the Downs!

Did he win a race??!! :eek:

He won the 1st

P4:


R7) In agreement that the 2 firsters and the 2 with big numbers off the last are worth including - 2 Sword Play, 6 Go Tebow Go (Omen :D ), 7 Verily True, and the 9 Heros Image

R8) Need 4 here as I'm just plain chickensh!t to leave off Centeno or Ness, both will be overbet but have very capable horses - Like the 2 Pyrite Apex on the drop/cutback/turf-dirt, 5 J's Lil Diva - Arterburn's been red hot and this gal is burning up the track in the morning; 3 Joan's Red Dawn may be a trap as she showed little in the stretch under a dream ride last - Centeno aboard for the drop to 10; 4 Close the Deal looks in the best from of them all - obliterated N3L for 8 last out here in Tampa and is poised for the huge step up to open 10

R9) Dale Bennett's stable is firing on all cylinders early and 2 Casablanca Babe has the look here off the layoff to get it done. Haw shippers have proven a nice angle; 4 Country Kat got it done at this condition 3 weeks ago, stretching out for J. Ness must use; 7 Divine Symphony was routinely well place in N1X company at Suf this summer/fall and after the turf experiment here 12/18, could be sitting on a big one as the lone speed in the contest.

R10) Nightcap features maidens offered for 8000. Yup. HVG may just be off the schnide with a win earlier in the card, but his unbelieveably bad riding thus far this meet have cost owners and bettors alike much heartburn. Still in all, 7 Speculator was a clear 2nd best last and would be considered the most likely here save for the mount. 3 No Show Bill gets the very capable Ronnie Allen Jr in the irons and a toss of the last effort over the Calder slop reveals the cut back ripe for the picking.


2,6,7,9//2,3,4,5//2,4,7//3,7 = 96.00

thnx Ian