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Kasept 03-04-2009 02:18 PM

3/7 (SA): SA H. (Gr. I); Kilroe (Gr. I); SA Oaks (Gr. I); Honest Lady (L)
 
5th (2:05) Honest Lady S.

6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Starry Pursuit Albarado R J 120 L
2 Synnin and Grinnin Espinoza V 118 L
3 Foxy Danseur Rosario J 120 L
4 Moonshine Alice Leparoux J R 116 L
5 Kalookan Dancer Sutherland C 116 L
6 Sweet August Moon Velazquez J R 116 L
7 Petite Cherie (IRE) Bejarano R 116 L
8 Coco Belle Smith M E 120 L
9 Highland Torree Garcia M 116 L



7th (3:07) Santa Anita Oaks (G1)

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Stardom Bound Smith M E 122 L
2 Burg Berg Baze T C 122 L
3 Miss Silver Brook Solis A 122 L
4 Hooh Why Albarado R J 122 L
5 Stormy Slew Velazquez J R 122 L
6 Nan Nakatani C S 122 L
7 Will O Way Baze R A 122 L
8 Beltene Rosario J 122 L
9 Third Dawn Bejarano R 122 L
10 Acronym Flores D R 122 L



9th (4:07) Frank E. Kilroe Mile H. (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Ventura Gomez G K 118 L
2 Mast Track Leparoux J R 117 L
3 Monterey Jazz Baze R A 116 L
4 Hewitts Flores D R 114 L
5 Wise River Albarado R J 116 L
6 Artiste Royal (IRE) Bejarano R 119 L
7 Dixie Chatter Baze T C 115 L
8 Mr Napper Tandy (GB) Rosario J 113 L
9 Global Hunter (ARG) Valdivia J Jr 116 L
10 Becrux (ITY) Prado E S 115 L
11 Gio Ponti Dominguez R A 118 L
12 Victory Pete Smith M E 113 L



10th (4:37) Santa Anita H. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Matto Mondo (CHI) Bejarano R 116 L
2 Cowboy Cal Velazquez J R 120 L
3 Heroi Do Bafra (BRZ) Baze M C 111 L
4 Monba Prado E S 114 L
5 Colonel John Gomez G K 119 L
6 Magnum (ARG) Rosario J 116 L
7 Blue Exit Albarado R J 115 L
8 Einstein (BRZ) Leparoux J R 121 L
9 Dansant (GB) Baze T C 116
10 Cause Court J K 110 L
11 Court Vision Dominguez R A 119 L
12 Zambezi Sun (GB) Espinoza V 116 L
13 Champs Elysees (GB) Valdivia J Jr 118 L
14 Stream Cat Solis A 114

Kasept 03-04-2009 05:15 PM

BIG CAP ML:

1. Matto Mondo, Rafael Bejarano, 116, 6-1;
2. Cowboy Cal, John Velazquez, 120, 5-1;
3. Heroi Do Bafra, Michael Baze, 111, 30-1;
4. Monba, Edgar Prado, 114, 15-1;
5. Colonel John, Garrett Gomez, 119, 9-2;
6. Magnum, Joel Rosario, 116, 12-1;
7. Blue Exit, Robby Albarado, 115, 12-1;
8. Einstein, Julien Leparoux, 121, 6-1;
9. Dansant, Tyler Baze, 116, 20-1;
10. Cause, Jon Court, 110, 30-1;
11. Court Vision, Ramon Dominguez, 119, 6-1;
12. Zambezi Sun, Victor Espinoza, 116, 12-1;
13. Champs Elysees, Jose Valdivia, Jr., 118, 12-1,
14. Stream Cat, Alex Solis, 114, 20-1.

Indian Charlie 03-05-2009 01:07 AM

Colonel John is the ML fave!?

WOW.

Artard.

2 Dollar Bill 03-05-2009 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
BIG CAP ML:

1. Matto Mondo, Rafael Bejarano, 116, 6-1;
2. Cowboy Cal, John Velazquez, 120, 5-1;
3. Heroi Do Bafra, Michael Baze, 111, 30-1;
4. Monba, Edgar Prado, 114, 15-1;
5. Colonel John, Garrett Gomez, 119, 9-2;
6. Magnum, Joel Rosario, 116, 12-1;
7. Blue Exit, Robby Albarado, 115, 12-1;
8. Einstein, Julien Leparoux, 121, 6-1;
9. Dansant, Tyler Baze, 116, 20-1;
10. Cause, Jon Court, 110, 30-1;
11. Court Vision, Ramon Dominguez, 119, 6-1;
12. Zambezi Sun, Victor Espinoza, 116, 12-1;
13. Champs Elysees, Jose Valdivia, Jr., 118, 12-1,
14. Stream Cat, Alex Solis, 114, 20-1.

Looks like some :$: can be made here !

tiznowthegreat 03-05-2009 11:13 AM

Love Zambezi Sun here. If he goes off at 10-1 I will unload.

Pedigree Ann 03-05-2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat
Love Zambezi Sun here. If he goes off at 10-1 I will unload.

Better make sure he brings his brain this time.

declansharbor 03-05-2009 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monipenny
I really like Monba in here.

Care to elaborate? I just don't see it, unless of course you're joking.

ateamstupid 03-05-2009 12:00 PM

That's some group of giants they're giving away $1 million to.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-05-2009 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
That's some group of giants they're giving away $1 million to.

well said..

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-05-2009 12:10 PM

einstine/magnum/matto motto tri box

where is the monster great hunter when you need him

Indian Charlie 03-05-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
einstine/magnum/matto motto tri box

where is the monster great hunter when you need him

he's nominated to a grade 2 at GP the following week.

Bobby Fischer 03-05-2009 11:13 PM

Magnum
Stream Cat
Einstein

Monba should run a solid race. Pletcher is no longer an auto-toss, and this is a fairly strong horse. I usually don't like a barns "B" horse, but this is a big enough race that it doesn't really matter.

Deep race with no obvious standout. If I wanted to hit the exacta for almost certain, I would need to box 8.
Of those 8 the longshot is 20-1 Stream Cat, who figures to grind his way past most of the rivals in the late stages.
The lowest ml price who I would exclude from my exacta would be 9-2 Colonel John, who finds life much more difficult facing actual older male turf horses who are suited to the track, than a potpurri of mediocre west coast 3yos.

letswastemoney 03-06-2009 02:33 AM

I would have thought Einstein would have been ML favorite. He probably will be the final odds favorite.

Danzig 03-06-2009 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I would have thought Einstein would have been ML favorite. He probably will be the final odds favorite.

or cowboy cal.

lemoncrush 03-06-2009 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monipenny
. Giving up the ride on Imperial Council was no easy decision for Frieze and Prado to make, but they will roll w/ there decision.:D :D

I would guess that Prado was committed to coming to California even before Imperial Council was pointing to the Gotham.
And even if all things were equal, he's not going to give up mounts on Big Cap day where there's 3 Grade 1 races and plenty of opportunites to earn money, to go to NY to run in a Grade 3 derby prep in early March with a horse that doesn't have any graded earnings as of yet.

Mike 03-06-2009 07:55 AM

I guess my Dansant/Zambezi Sun exacta box will be paying more than I imagined

Habersham000 03-06-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monipenny
Actually I would be hard pressed not to believe Pletcher is almost being blamed for a conflict of interest w/ both Cowboy Cal and Monba in the same race. Thank the lord above they are uncoupled in the wagering for the Big Cap on Saturday. Cowboy Cal had a lot of sentimental reasons for being the only horse that Stonerside kept after selling the farm in Ky and almost every single broodmare and horses racing and in training. Does that mean the racing world rolls over for a feel good guy like McNair to win a $1,000,000 race- No Way. But Monba I can asure is not second fiddle to anyone in here. If anything it's the other way around as Monba w/ edgar easily dispatched of Cowbay Cal in the Blue Grass at Keeneland. Which I believe was Monba's best race to date and Edgar really fits this horse also. Also, McNair HAD to liquidate his assets to buy out his partner for full rights to the Houston Texans. Starlight Partners are much more involved in the game then McNair is or maybe will be in the future. So I believe Pletcher is acting in the best interests of both parties. And while I believe IMO that Monba will prove to be best in the Big Cap that's why I love to watch and wager on horse racing.


I know they also kept Stonesider who stands at Highcliff in New York...who is honestly one of the most beautiful horses I have ever seen in person....Anyway I love Blue Exit here, 3rd off layoff, had a rough trip last race and only lost 3/4 of a length to Cowboy Cal. He likes the SA pro-ride surface. He has worked back 3 times since his last race. I think he could upset this field.

GBBob 03-06-2009 11:16 AM

Was trolling through ESPN and saw this analysis of the Kilroe....and then saw the by line...Very nicely done Brian Spencer...ESPN..impressive..

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=3955780

herkhorse 03-06-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
Was trolling through ESPN and saw this analysis of the Kilroe....and then saw the by line...Very nicely done Brian Spencer...ESPN..impressive..

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=3955780

Nice! Congrats Brian

Antitrust32 03-06-2009 11:37 AM

how bad is horseracing when Cowboy Cow is considered a good racehorse?

lemoncrush 03-06-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habersham000
I know they also kept Stonesider who stands at Highcliff in New York...who is honestly one of the most beautiful horses I have ever seen in person....Anyway I love Blue Exit here, 3rd off layoff, had a rough trip last race and only lost 3/4 of a length to Cowboy Cal. He likes the SA pro-ride surface. He has worked back 3 times since his last race. I think he could upset this field.

I agree.....Blue Exit will be in my tri.
Einstein is the real mystery horse to me, who I'm terrified to toss.
And Court Vision is my longshot play.

SniperSB23 03-06-2009 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
Was trolling through ESPN and saw this analysis of the Kilroe....and then saw the by line...Very nicely done Brian Spencer...ESPN..impressive..

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=3955780

Wow, ESPN, big time. Congrats Brian.

Bobby Fischer 03-06-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monipenny
Actually I would be hard pressed not to believe Pletcher is almost being blamed for a conflict of interest w/ both Cowboy Cal and Monba in the same race. Thank the lord above they are uncoupled in the wagering for the Big Cap on Saturday. Cowboy Cal had a lot of sentimental reasons for being the only horse that Stonerside kept after selling the farm in Ky and almost every single broodmare and horses racing and in training. Does that mean the racing world rolls over for a feel good guy like McNair to win a $1,000,000 race- No Way. But Monba I can asure is not second fiddle to anyone in here. If anything it's the other way around as Monba w/ edgar easily dispatched of Cowbay Cal in the Blue Grass at Keeneland. Which I believe was Monba's best race to date and Edgar really fits this horse also. Also, McNair HAD to liquidate his assets to buy out his partner for full rights to the Houston Texans. Starlight Partners are much more involved in the game then McNair is or maybe will be in the future. So I believe Pletcher is acting in the best interests of both parties. And while I believe IMO that Monba will prove to be best in the Big Cap that's why I love to watch and wager on horse racing.

Oh yea. It is a blessing to all those planning on using Monba, that they remain uncoupled. I don't necessarily think Monba is worse than Cowboy Cal, although the public clearly does. Cowboy Cal is a very good horse from a mile up to about 9 furlongs on the synthetic, especially if it is playing to speed. However 10 furlongs is going to take a lot of heart for him. I like Monba slightly better for win and place, and much beter for 3rd and 4th. Would like to see him run well.

Einstein really ran a big race last time, and there is a big temptation to feature him because of the public probably missing that he was probably best in the Donn. Einstein is probably also the answer of "Who is the best older turf horse in this race?" - which is usually the question that leads to the key horse in a 10 furlong synthetic race.

Magnum was the most impressive visually of all last out.

ddthetide 03-06-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
Was trolling through ESPN and saw this analysis of the Kilroe....and then saw the by line...Very nicely done Brian Spencer...ESPN..impressive..

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=3955780

congrats BWS !

Habersham000 03-06-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
how bad is horseracing when Cowboy Cow is considered a good racehorse?


How is he a bad horse??? He has won two grade 2's and gotten second in two grade one's...I love when people hate on horses like this...I bet your one of the people saying this is a crappy year of 3 year olds too.

eajinabi 03-06-2009 09:13 PM

Monba did not run smoothly in the Thunder Road. He was asked to run early and was pushed hard by his jock even though it was a fast pace in front of him. He grinded out that last furloung on determination alone.

That does not mean he is a toss out. I believe he will relish the surface and distance but his best races are done on or near the pace. Is Prado smart enough to do realize that?

letswastemoney 03-06-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habersham000
How is he a bad horse??? He has won two grade 2's and gotten second in two grade one's...I love when people hate on horses like this...I bet your one of the people saying this is a crappy year of 3 year olds too.

He's no Tiago :) :)

Bobby Fischer 03-06-2009 09:25 PM

lol@ this
Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
He's no Tiago :) :)


and congrats Brian Spencer

ArlJim78 03-06-2009 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habersham000
How is he a bad horse??? He has won two grade 2's and gotten second in two grade one's...I love when people hate on horses like this...I bet your one of the people saying this is a crappy year of 3 year olds too.

it makes me laugh also. he's not a good horse? his record 11 6-3-0, one bad race on dirt.
other wise he's never out of the exacta in graded stakes and game as hell down the lane. i'm not sure how he'll like 10F, but i'll be using him because of his consistency on the surface.

robfla 03-06-2009 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Cowboy Cal is definitely consistent and sports an admirable record, but can someone name one good horse he has beaten? I can't.


by today's standards...Magnum?


I like the rail horse, Matto Mondo..gate to wire

my miss storm cat 03-06-2009 11:35 PM

Very nice, Brian. Cheers to you.

* * *

Still looking at the Honest lady but might go with Moonshine Alice.

No one can beat Stardom Bound...

Becrux :eek: in the Kilroe eith Artiste Royale, Global Hunter underneath (and oh God maybe Mr. NT in the 4th spot)

Using Einstein, Zambezi Sun, Dansant and Cowboy Cal in the Big Cap.

Good luck everyone.

King Glorious 03-07-2009 12:28 AM

Matto Mondo
Court Vision
Zambezi Sun

Ventura
Gio Ponti
Artiste Royal

Stardom Bound
Acronym
Beltene

brianwspencer 03-07-2009 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Cowboy Cal is definitely consistent and sports an admirable record, but can someone name one good horse he has beaten? I can't.

Um, Monba. :)

And thanks to everyone on the ESPN congrats....no doubt that I don't quite deserve it, but also undoubtedly the coolest thing that's ever happened to me.

3kings 03-07-2009 06:03 AM

Nice write-up Brian, congrats.


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