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NTamm1215 11-10-2010 08:51 AM

Blatantly biased? You bet.
 
I know there's another thread but I thought his admission that he was literally cheering for her was a little much.

"In only two races in my history have I been blatantly biased," Denman said Tuesday from his farm in Minnesota. "[ Bill] Shoemaker's last ride, in that race I said, 'Come on Shoe,' because I wanted him to win so bad, he ran fourth but at the eighth pole he could have won it and, literally, I said, 'Come on Shoe,' and then Saturday. I wanted so badly for Zenyatta to win.

"You have to have sagacity and say, 'This occasion is different and I have to be different.' I have to admit, I almost said, 'Come on,' right before Blame and Zenyatta hit the wire. I think you can hear exasperation in my voice, at the end. I was deflated when I said, 'Blame has won it.' "

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,4695748.story

tector 11-10-2010 08:58 AM

Well, that's OK, because I am blatantly biased too--I think Trevor sucks donkey balls.

slotdirt 11-10-2010 08:59 AM

Yeah, that call was pretty awful. Denman should be embarassed, sagacity and all.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-10-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 721441)
sagacity and all.

Sagacity would have probably won the BC Turf if he was around this year.

randallscott35 11-10-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 721437)
I know there's another thread but I thought his admission that he was literally cheering for her was a little much.

"In only two races in my history have I been blatantly biased," Denman said Tuesday from his farm in Minnesota. "[ Bill] Shoemaker's last ride, in that race I said, 'Come on Shoe,' because I wanted him to win so bad, he ran fourth but at the eighth pole he could have won it and, literally, I said, 'Come on Shoe,' and then Saturday. I wanted so badly for Zenyatta to win.

"You have to have sagacity and say, 'This occasion is different and I have to be different.' I have to admit, I almost said, 'Come on,' right before Blame and Zenyatta hit the wire. I think you can hear exasperation in my voice, at the end. I was deflated when I said, 'Blame has won it.' "

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,4695748.story

The Michael Kay of calling races with Vic close behind....How bout do your job.

v j stauffer 11-10-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 721447)
The Michael Kay of calling races with Vic close behind....How bout do your job.

Funny you say that. Had I called the race I was preparing to say........"Zenny wins. Thaaaaaa Zenny's win. How bout GET A JOB?:)

randallscott35 11-10-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 721469)
Funny you say that. Had I called the race I was preparing to say........"Zenny wins. Thaaaaaa Zenny's win. How bout GET A JOB?:)

Excellent comeback.

CSC 11-10-2010 10:32 AM

Announcers are all biased, you could hear Durkin's voice rise in excitement when Birdstone ran by Smarty Jones in the Belmont. :rolleyes:

tector 11-10-2010 10:39 AM

Hmmm...was that because it was exciting or what? You don't think Durkin would have wanted to call a frigging TC? Really?

What is it around here recently?

slotdirt 11-10-2010 10:47 AM

Seriously? Durkin was rooting for Birdstone? F'ing retarded. Only race I have ever been to where 120k people could clearly hear the racecall for the last 100 yards of the race. It was that quiet.

NTamm1215 11-10-2010 10:55 AM

That's hilarious. Durkin actually walked out and put a piece of tape at the 31 length margin on the rail. That's how confident he was in Smarty Jones but he was cheering for Birdstone.:rolleyes:

CSC 11-10-2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721477)
Hmmm...was that because it was exciting or what? You don't think Durkin would have wanted to call a frigging TC? Really?

What is it around here recently?

Read it again with sarcasm.

Princess Doreen 11-10-2010 11:00 AM

Race callers have favorites. Was there ever a more emotional call than Durkin's in the 2009 Woodward. Thought the man was going to have a freakin' heart attack - as well as a lot of racing fans. I couldn't hear normally for about a week after.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysO_Fhc8Fpw

tector 11-10-2010 11:00 AM

Don't be ambiguous--no one is ever going to give the likes of you the benefit of the doubt. That's your legacy.

Princess Doreen 11-10-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721489)
Don't be ambiguous--no one is ever going to give the likes of you the benefit of the doubt. That's your legacy.

To whom were you referring? Me?

tector 11-10-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 721491)
To whom were you referring? Me?

Are you calling me ambiguous?

tector 11-10-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 721491)
To whom were you referring? Me?

OK...no, it wasn't you.

Princess Doreen 11-10-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721495)
Are you calling me ambiguous?

I wasn't calling you anything. I was just asking a question.

Just forget it. I shall drag my knuckles back to my cave.

Off to find my cave.:zz:

CSC 11-10-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 721491)
To whom were you referring? Me?

I'm pretty sure he was referring to my post, because he wasn't clever enough to understand it was meant to be read with sarcasm, even with the usage of :rolleyes: Anyone that knows anything about horseracing that watched that race would have known Durkin's voice sounded noticably dissapointed when Birdstone ran by Smarty Jones, and I do think this ties in with the theme of this thread. Obcourse Denman was rooting for Zenyatta, just as Durkin probably wanted to call a triple crown winner.

Princess Doreen 11-10-2010 11:15 AM

Sarcastic responses are sometimes prize winning veiled here at DT that it's extra hard to figure out when posts aren't quoted.

Still searching for cave.:)

CSC 11-10-2010 11:17 AM

Every post on derbytrail should be read with sarcasm, it's the modest operandi of many that post here.

Princess Doreen 11-10-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 721500)
Every post on derbytrail should be read with sarcasm, it's the MODUS operandi of many that post here.

FTFY!:)

tector 11-10-2010 11:18 AM

Dude, three people in a row assumed that you were that big of an ass.

Like I said, it is your legacy--too late to run from it. You've earned it.

PS: I don't play with emoticons. I have a dick and I am older than 12.

Dahoss 11-10-2010 11:20 AM

Let's compare them. Durkin's Belmont

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Z49x11smk


Denman's Classic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Et15M6wsPo


IMO one of them sounds like amateur hour.

Princess Doreen 11-10-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721504)
PS: I don't play with emoticons. I have a dick and I am older than 12.

Do fries come with that?:{>:

CSC 11-10-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 721506)
Do fries come with that?:{>:

Maybe a 4 inch weiner does. :)

Duvalier 11-10-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 721505)
Let's compare them. Durkin's Belmont

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Z49x11smk


Denman's Classic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Et15M6wsPo


IMO one of them sounds like amateur hour.

How about the one where he says ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

NTamm1215 11-10-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 721508)
How about the one where he says ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

You mean the one where he shows some personality? I guess it's too bad he likes his job.

Duvalier 11-10-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 721509)
You mean the one where he shows some personality? I guess it's too bad he likes his job.

Yeah it was so cute. Before you get all up in arms I think Tom Durkin is an excellent track announcer

Princess Doreen 11-10-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 721507)
Maybe a 4 inch weiner does. :)

SHARP!:D Mean that sincerely.

Back on topic - I find absolutely nothing wrong with Tom Durkin's call of the 2004 Belmont. Nothing! Then, I find nothing wrong with Denman's call of this year's Classic. I just don't like his nasal tone - it's so un SA.

NTamm1215 11-10-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 721511)
Yeah it was so cute

I really don't understand why it was a big deal. Would it have been better if he said, "They would need to sprout wings to catch ARRRRRRRRRR!" or "It looks like ARRRRRRRRRRRR just joined in at the 1/4 pole" or "Circular Quay, oh wait ARRRRRRRRRRRR!"

Denman is a robot with the same five lines over and over.

Duvalier 11-10-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 721514)
I really don't understand why it was a big deal. Would it have been better if he said, "They would need to sprout wings to catch ARRRRRRRRRR!" or "It looks like ARRRRRRRRRRRR just joined in at the 1/4 pole" or "Circular Quay, oh wait ARRRRRRRRRRRR!"

Denman is a robot with the same five lines over and over.

I edited the response...and it wasn't a big deal. I just think it's funny how everyone rips on the announcers. Who cares...if you don't like it turn the volume down and just watch.

tector 11-10-2010 11:34 AM

My grandmother used to say, "you lie down with dogs, you get fleas." And so it is.

CSC 11-10-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 721512)
SHARP!:D Mean that sincerely.

Back on topic - I find absolutely nothing wrong with Tom Durkin's call of the 2004 Belmont. Nothing! Then, I find nothing wrong with Denman's call of this year's Classic. I just don't like his nasal tone - it's so un SA.

I don't either, he called it great, hey everyone (Especially the fairweather fans that watched it nationally) wanted Smarty Jones to win the TC, and when Birdstone crossed the wire, you can hear it in his voice. And Birdstone wins the Belmont Stakes...now to me that didn't sound like a call had Smarty Jones won. He captured the moment succinctly, just as Denman did.

Dahoss 11-10-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 721508)
How about the one where he says ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I know people hated that, but I actually thought it was kind of funny....the first time. Not so much the second time. I'm biased because I grew up listening to Durkin and think he is the best. He's lost a step...or two recently, but we all do as we get older.

I read something on another board and I thought it was a pretty smart observation. It was something along the lines of announcers like Durkin are part of the race. Denman is a guy talking in the backround.

MISTERGEE 11-10-2010 11:37 AM

Durkin is a classic, Denman a zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Duvalier 11-10-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 721509)
You mean the one where he shows some personality? I guess it's too bad he likes his job.

By the way my favorite track announcer was Larry Lederman when he called the races at Garden State and Atlantic City but I don't get into Freehold. I do enjoy when an announcer shows some personality...not robotic calls.

Princess Doreen 11-10-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721517)
My grandmother used to say, "you lie down with dogs, you get fleas." And so it is.

Maybe in your grandmother's day they didn't have a flea remedy. They do now. Just sayin'....

All in all, I think you're a pretty sharp poster. I really like your description of Zenyatta's racing style. :tro:

NTamm1215 11-10-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 721525)
By the way my favorite track announcer was Larry Lederman when he called the races at Garden State and Atlantic City but I don't get into Freehold. I do enjoy when an announcer shows some personality...not robotic calls.

Lederman is great, I always enjoyed his calls.

Trevor just sounds to me like this is a job for him and he goes in and puts in his 5 hrs or whatever it may be then goes home. You're never going to get Trevor allowing people to go to his booth to raise money for charity. There's never going to be anything remarkable about one of his calls. Hell, he recycled his own call when Sidney's Candy won the SA Derby this year. Durkin would get lambasted if he used a cheesy line like "Eskendereya carrying the hopes of New York all the way to the Kentucky Derby."

MISTERGEE 11-10-2010 11:55 AM

Lederman, very entertaining calls--I agree


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