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Kasept 04-06-2011 01:07 PM

4/9 (AQU): Wood, Carter (G1's), Comely, Bay Shore (G3's)
 
7th (4:09) Comely S. (G3)

1 Mile | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Hot Summer Saez L 116 L
2 R Holiday Mood Velazquez J R 120 L
3 Her Smile Cohen D 118 L
4 Mysterious Chimes Velasquez C 116 L
5 Ava K. Dominguez R A 120 L
6 Vixen's Roar Castro E 116 L
7 Royal Sighting Prado E S 116 L



8th (4:42) Bay Shore S. (G3)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Justin Phillip Dominguez R A 116 L
2 Buffum Cohen D 116 L
3 J J's Lucky Train Ferrer J C 118 L
4 Dr Disco Luzzi M J 116 L
5 Harlan's Hello Hill C 116 L
6 Smoke It Right Velasquez C 120 L
7 Vengeful Wildcat Marquez C H Jr 118 L
8 Royal Currier Castro E 118 L



9th (5:15) Carter H. (G1)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

2 More Than a Reason Castro E 112 L
3 Laysh Laysh Laysh Velasquez C 114 L
4 Kensei Prado E S 116 L
5 Be Bullish Alvarado J 115 L
6 Yawanna Twist Luzzi M J 115 L
7 Apriority Saez L 116 L
8 Independence War Cohen D 114 L
9 Sunrise Smarty Lopez C C 112 L
1 Calibrachoa Dominguez R A 118 L
10 Morning Line Velazquez J R 119 L
1A Have You Ever Santiago V 112 L
11 Fastus Cactus Espinoza J L 113 L

A-Coupled: Calibrachoa and Have You Ever



10th (5:48) Resorts World New York Casino Wood Memorial S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Starship Caesar Velasquez C 123 L
2 Toby's Corner Castro E 123 Blk-On L
3 Full of Scoundrels Lopez C C 123 L
4 Arthur's Tale Dominguez R A 123 L
5 Uncle Mo Velazquez J R 123 L
6 Preachintothedevil Alvarado J 123 L
7 Duca Court J K 123 L
8 Norman Asbjornson Pimentel J 123 L
9 Isn't He Perfect Hill C 123 L
10 Son of Posse Maysonett F 123 L

slotdirt 04-06-2011 01:23 PM

Yeesh.

TouchOfGrey 04-06-2011 01:41 PM

At least they got 9 other horses to show up for the Wood.

randallscott35 04-06-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 766558)
Yeesh.

;)

tjfla 04-06-2011 02:06 PM

On the brightside,atleast it should be a good track. No surprises

lemoncrush 04-06-2011 03:00 PM

I actually think the races look pretty good.

The Wood was never going to have any other headliners other than Uncle Mo, and we've known that for months.

tjfla 04-06-2011 05:00 PM

1 Starship Caesar Velasquez C 123 L 50/1
2 Toby's Corner Castro E 123 Blk-On L 8/1
3 Full of Scoundrels Lopez C C 123 L 50/1
4 Arthur's Tale Dominguez R A 123 L 12/1
5 Uncle Mo Velazquez J R 123 L 1/5
6 Preachintothedevil Alvarado J 123 L 20/1
7 Duca Court J K 123 L 20/1
8 Norman Asbjornson Pimentel J 123 L 15/1
9 Isn't He Perfect Hill C 123 L 50/1
10 Son of Posse Maysonett F 123 L 99/1


Any chance Mo's gets beat? LOL Wonder what he goes off at?

pba1817 04-06-2011 05:16 PM

Looks like a bunch are simply entered for the $5k "bonus" that they get for running in both the Gotham and the Wood... nice field, wow.

Indian Charlie 04-06-2011 05:36 PM

Out of the 56 combined lifetimes starts in this field, the four highest bsfs are all from MO.

ateamstupid 04-06-2011 06:43 PM

Pretty good Carter.

HaloWishingwell 04-06-2011 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 766616)
1 Starship Caesar Velasquez C 123 L 50/1
2 Toby's Corner Castro E 123 Blk-On L 8/1
3 Full of Scoundrels Lopez C C 123 L 50/1
4 Arthur's Tale Dominguez R A 123 L 12/1
5 Uncle Mo Velazquez J R 123 L 1/5
6 Preachintothedevil Alvarado J 123 L 20/1
7 Duca Court J K 123 L 20/1
8 Norman Asbjornson Pimentel J 123 L 15/1
9 Isn't He Perfect Hill C 123 L 50/1
10 Son of Posse Maysonett F 123 L 99/1


Any chance Mo's gets beat? LOL Wonder what he goes off at?

If they forget to open his gate

blackthroatedwind 04-06-2011 07:49 PM

Has anybody taken a good look at the Illinois Derby?

randallscott35 04-06-2011 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 766674)
Has anybody taken a good look at the Illinois Derby?

So? This is NY. Expectations are higher for a reason.

pba1817 04-06-2011 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 766674)
Has anybody taken a good look at the Illinois Derby?

Yes, both fields suck... take out Uncle Mo and they are equally embarrassing to be considered graded purses for Derby field considerations....

blackthroatedwind 04-06-2011 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 766681)
Yes, both fields suck... take out Uncle Mo and they are equally embarrassing to be considered graded purses for Derby field considerations....

Take Uncle Mo out? OK, but you can't take him out, because he's racing. So your point has no merit.

Good try though.

blackthroatedwind 04-06-2011 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 766675)
So? This is NY. Expectations are higher for a reason.

And the KY Derby favorite is racing.

randallscott35 04-06-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 766688)
And the KY Derby favorite is racing.

The Wood is less of my problem. As cards go, it's a disappointment. You need not be a homer. A no comment will suffice. Sometimes it isn't there.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-06-2011 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 766689)
The Wood is less of my problem. As cards go, it's a disappointment. You need not be a homer. A no comment will suffice. Sometimes it isn't there.

Gotta love the 3 $7,500 claimers on the card too........;)

randallscott35 04-06-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 766692)
Gotta love the 3 $7,500 claimers on the card too........;)

Exactly. People think I'm an ahole for the heck of it. Whatever I see I say. NY still has its days. This isn't one of them.

Sightseek 04-06-2011 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 766688)
And the KY Derby favorite is racing.

Why do you bother?

blackthroatedwind 04-06-2011 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 766694)
Why do you bother?

I made a mistake.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-06-2011 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 766693)
Exactly. People think I'm an ahole for the heck of it. Whatever I see I say. NY still has its days. This isn't one of them.

Thank GOD spring is here and grass racing is back.........;)

pba1817 04-06-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 766686)
Take Uncle Mo out? OK, but you can't take him out, because he's racing. So your point has no merit.

Good try though.

My point has plenty of merit to those without their NYRA goggles on...

NTamm1215 04-06-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 766707)
My point has plenty of merit to those without their NYRA goggles on...

Do you honestly think that if Uncle Mo had not been pointing to that race the field would be the same? I don't.

pba1817 04-06-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 766708)
Do you honestly think that if Uncle Mo had not been pointing to that race the field would be the same? I don't.

Of course not... but this is exceptionally weak.

ateamstupid 04-06-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 766707)
My point has plenty of merit to those without their NYRA goggles on...

Who the hell wants to face Uncle Mo before the Derby? You can't honestly be blaming NYRA for not getting any other stars in the race.

pba1817 04-06-2011 09:18 PM

If you read my original post, I said the fields are awful when not taking Uncle Mo into consideration.. I didn't blame anyone one way or another.

Dahoss 04-06-2011 09:21 PM

We must be near a big raceday. All of the douches are coming out of the woodwork.

YAY!!!!

pba1817 04-06-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 766716)
We must be near a big raceday. All of the douches are coming out of the woodwork.

YAY!!!!

Welcome Back!!

The Indomitable DrugS 04-06-2011 09:27 PM

It's a fine card in my opinion - what annoys me about it though - is that the Wood Memorial is the only two-turn dirt race on the entire 11-race card.

Basically - you can't trust any speed figure or any pace figure from this race. It's almost pointless to even assign a figure to this race. Especially pace wise.

You've got a big field of lightly raced 3-year-olds without a lot of established route form. A truly worthless situation to assign numbers to a race like this.

These are situations where even final time numbers can sometimes look 8-to-12 points wrong several months later. In terms of judging the pace - you're left playing The Fat Man's game of where did the speeds finish? How did the closers fair? etc. Which is certainly fine in a typical type of race - but can sometimes be misleading in a race like this.

Dahoss 04-06-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 766719)
You got me. So what if I act like an expert here because I watch 12 races a year? I rule the Zenyatta fan blog the rest of the year so piss off.

FTFY

ateamstupid 04-06-2011 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 766713)
If you read my original post, I said the fields are awful when not taking Uncle Mo into consideration.. I didn't blame anyone one way or another.

Really? What's wrong with the Carter?

Dahoss 04-06-2011 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 766742)
Really? What's wrong with the Carter?

It's not being run on synthetic...duh.

NTamm1215 04-06-2011 10:57 PM

In addition to that, anyone who has anything bad to say about the Comely and/or Bay Shore is an idiot. They are both very nice races for G3s worth 150-200k.

This is truly a card that's a breath of fresh air after a long winter. Those that have anything bad to say about it either, haven't been playing Aqu all winter, or simply b.itch about everything.

richard 04-06-2011 11:33 PM

For $7,500 claimers the purses are very good, >$25k, the fields are full and competitive. Place your bets. If Surfing Ian is on his game he stands out.

Sightseek 04-07-2011 09:07 AM

Hoping for a better run by/trip for Toby's Corner.

randallscott35 04-07-2011 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 766813)
Hoping for a better run by/trip for Toby's Corner.

I think he is going to be a solid horse.

OldDog 04-07-2011 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 766649)
Pretty good Carter.

I'm eager to see how Morning Line runs.

NTamm1215 04-07-2011 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 766813)
Hoping for a better run by/trip for Toby's Corner.

Motion does well when adding blinkers. He's the deserving 2nd choice.

iamthelurker 04-07-2011 12:03 PM

I think the Carter is going to be a really interesting betting race, alot of horses that could win that one.


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