Oaks/Derby Double?
 

If you guys were given 50 dollars to play the Oaks/Derby double, 5 x 5

What would you play? I'm thinking about putting something together, but wondering if, first: it's worth playing and second: who is worth playing to maximize my 50 bucks. Any thoughts or opinions are much appreciated!

jag,

Play Gus ("Bogey") Alonso's Oaks-Derby Double. He'll post it tonight I'm sure. He has had a tremendous run of success building the KO-KD play.

Thanks Kasept, Appreciate it. I will keep an eye out tonight. I'm just debating to myself if its worth playing or not. I do not know too much about this years oaks crop, other than there's 13 horses and a few contenders. Haven't even glanced at the PP's yet.

I'd certainly listen to Bogey before listening to me but my take is that the Oaks is going to fall apart and the Derby won't. I could be wrong in either (or both) cases, but I would lean more in the direction of closers in the Oaks.
If you are really looking to play 5X5, I'd go:

1 - Joyful Victory
4 - Kathmanblu
6 - Zazu
12 - Plum Pretty
13 - St John's River

with

1 - Archarcharch
8 - Dialed In
13 - Mucho Macho Man
14 - Shackleford
18 - Uncle Mo (if he doesn't scratch, Midnight Interlude if he does)

Oh, and my wager will be the five mentioned above in the Oaks with Shackleford and Dialed In.

Do you think shackleford will rate just behind Comma to the Top and Soldat? I like him, too, just wondering if he can make the distance. Hmmm

Gus is :$: on these plays!

whammy
 

this thread puts the whammy on Gus.

her smile-joyful victory-katmanblu-zazu

with

aaa-soldat-mmm-pants on fire-shackelford-decisive moment

with

$2 bus fare when dialed in or nehro win.

JV w/ALL

Tough to know.
His dam has already produced a 10f, G1 winner which is a good sign and - more importantly - he has looked pretty good at 9f on more than one occasion.
I could be wrong and the pace may end up being too quick early and he may fold up in the final furlong, but I think he remains my #1 pick.

Thanks guys!

The Baffert/Baffert double is fine this year

Plum Pretty, Zazu, Summer Soiree, Kathmanblu, Daisy Devine

over

Mucho Macho Man, Soldat, Santiva, Archarcharch, Nehro

I kinda like that, although I might take out Santiva and add Soldat or Midnight interlude

Oops, you have Soldat, my bad. I think I would throw in Dialed In.

Thanks Steve and Mclem, now I only have to avoid the Whammy. It's been a personal favorite bet for me because the success I've had the last few years. The Original plan was to single R Heat Lightning and go deep in the Derby. As we all know, horseplayers have to make adjustments on the fly. Here we go.

Oaks/Derby Double

FRI - R11 - Kentucky Oaks

#12 Plum Pretty (5-1) WON $14.60
#4 Kathmanblu (4-1)
#13 St. John's River (30-1)
#1 Joyful Victory (5-2)
#6 Zazu (4-1)

SAT - R11 - G1 Kentucky Derby

#19 Nehro (6-1)
#16 Animal Kingdom (30-1)
#8 Dialed In (4-1)
#14 Shackleford (12-1)
#17 Soldat (12-1)

$1 Oaks/Derby Double - 1 4 6 12 13 / 8 14 16 17 19 = $25

$2 Oaks/Derby Double - 4 12 13 / 8 16 19 = $18

$10 Oaks/Derby Double - 4 12 / 19 = $20

Good Racing Luck

Bigjag, I posted this on your post despite your Giants beating up on my Mets this week.

Why was it always cold at Candlestick Park? Because they had Giant Fans.

The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Fransico before I moved to Chicago.

Hey Bogey, you're the man. Honestly, I was kind of leaning that same way myself, with you're picks, so I think I will follow it, or adjust one horse or so. Are you set on that double? I think the only derby pick I am debating on changing from what you posted is taking a chance and taking out either nehro or dialed in for midnight interlude. Just taking a chance, derby style.


Hey now, we only took 2 out of 3. Can you guys deal us Reyes? The Giants will gladly deal a pitching prospect or too. :D Hmmm...thanks for the stick comment, those nights, even though I was only a little kid, were a killer, but very fond memories. That ocean wind from out in candlestick point was no joke.


Good luck my friend.

Hey Gus, you built the track record we're just praising it my friend, no whammy intended. :p I love the approach this year as well. Best of Luck as always.
Michael

No problem, Michael. Thanks and best of luck this weekend.

1-3-4-6 with the 8-14-15-16-17

BTW NYRA One account holders CANNOT bet this Oaks Double online.. Call in only they told me as it is not showing up on their wagering info! :zz:

Good luck guys! my final double play.

1 dollar play=40 , hoping for a longshot.

1/3/4/6/7/8/9/11/12/13 with 2/8/15/17


2 dollar double= 14


1/3/4/6/9/12/13 with 17


I have leaned towards Soldat. I know, he seems like he cannot rate, but i feel that after looking at the PP's, he has alot of back class, highest career beyer and is training well. And seeing that he is 22-1 currently, why not? I honestly think he will kick on and make it interesting in the stretch.

My Play

4,6,9,12/8,13,16

$5

6 / 13 15

Gl!

Race #1 05/06/2011
*Oaks/Derby Double
$6.00 Double
# 12,13
WT # 1,5,8,12,13,14,16,17
$96.00 good luck!

1, 3, 6 / 1, 8, 13, 15, 19

Anyone got willpays?

Hopefully this copies ok...


1 - Archarcharch $110

2 - Brilliant Speed $276

3 - Twice the Appeal $300

4 - Stay Thirsty $254

5 - Decisive Moment $821

6 - Comma to the Top $441

7 - Pants on Fire $223

8 - Dialed In $61

9 - Derby Kitten $497

10 - Twinspired $549

11 - Master of Hounds $185

12 - Santiva $256

13 - Mucho Macho Man $124

14 - Shackleford $176

15 - Midnight Interlude $95

16 - Animal Kingdom $172

17 - Soldat $123

18 - Uncle Mo (SCR)

19 - Nehro $85

20 - Watch Me Go $1034

Can you tell me if those are $1 or $2? And where did you find them? I've tried a few sites with no luck

Twinspires, for $1.

Good luck if you are alive!

$10 double into the other Baffert. I thought he would have been a much better price in the double. I guess there are a bunch of hunch players.

GL tomorrow everyone.

$2 DDs to 1, 2, 7 and 16
$7 DDs to 8 and 14

Good luck to all still alive

I heard Gus this morning liking the 12 and thru a combo of a few plays I'm live to all except the 1 & 20.

Thanks

8-1 Parlay to Dialed In?...

Def take it. Survived with $20 Dialed in and $10 Shackleford.

GL!

$1 DD alive to 9 horses ticket was $18, hope i got a shot lol!:D
Would love to see will pays, if anyone has them handy? Good Luck All!

$1 wheel..hoping for Decisive Moment or Watch Me Go !

Nice start Gus!!

Thanks Charlie and Gaines, you are definitely in good position heading into the Derby. Good Luck.

ALIVE:tro: