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Kasept 07-12-2011 10:21 PM

7/16 (DEL): Delaware H. (G2), Carpenter Jr. Mem. S., Sussex S.
 
6th (3:30) Sussex S.

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Mr. Ryder Dominguez R A 121 L
2 Followmyfootsteps Rocco J S Jr 121 LA
3 Guns and Religion Saez G 117 LA
4 Vanquisher Castellano A Jr 117 LA
5 Bim Bam Cohen D 117 LA
6 Mikoshi Gomez G K 119 LA
7 Paris Vegas Rocco J S Jr 117 LA

A-Coupled: Followmyfootsteps and Paris Vegas



9th (4:51) R. R. M. Carpenter Jr. Memorial S.

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Friesan Fire Saez G 117 LA
2 Not Abroad Petro N J 117 LA
3 Edgewater Dunkelberger T L 117 Blk-On LA
4 Alma d'Oro Dominguez R A 121 LA
5 Nacho Friend Gomez G K 121 LA
6 Tempted to Tapit Cohen D 119 LA
7 In the Juice Ho W 117 LA



10th (5:18) Delaware H. (G2)

1 1/4 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Life At Ten Cohen D 115 LA
2 Thundering Emilia Pimentel J 111 LA
3 Havre de Grace Dominguez R A 124 LA
4 Love's Blush Dunkelberger T L 112 LA
5 Blind Luck Gomez G K 122 LA

ateamstupid 07-12-2011 10:40 PM

It's nice to see HdG and BL hook up again, but they really couldn't scrounge up more than three other horses for $750k?

Clip-Clop 07-13-2011 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 790740)
It's nice to see HdG and BL hook up again, but they really couldn't scrounge up more than three other horses for $750k?

Run just about anything for a shot third place share of that.

ShadowRoll 07-13-2011 03:32 PM

Delaware has had some tough years, when the average field size was probably 5 or 6 horses after scratches. The place is so pleasant, however, that even then I'd take a few trips there every season. In recent years it has much improved, but judging from the field sizes alone for the Del Cap Day card, there'll probably be a few races that end up being unplayable (including the Del Cap itself). On the other hand, the two turf races look promising.

More problematic than the field sizes, recently, has been the favorite's winning percentage. I've seen it creep up to 40 %, although right now, it's at about 35 %.

The trick to winning there, of course, has nothing to do with handicapping ability. In order to win, you must bring peanuts to bribe the squirrels. They are the lares and penates of Delaware Park.

Coup Verville 07-13-2011 04:55 PM

Wow, Tempted to Tapit...haven't heard that name in while. Where has he been for so long?

ShadowRoll 07-13-2011 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coup Verville (Post 790957)
Wow, Tempted to Tapit...haven't heard that name in while. Where has he been for so long?

Two back was in March of last year. Started working steadily in March of this year (11 works, 3 of the more recent ones were bullets) and won at DEL, wire to wire, in an optional claimer on June 13th with a Brisnet speed figure that matched his lifetime best.

Coup Verville 07-13-2011 06:21 PM

It's good to see him back, I liked him last year. I'm also hoping Larry Jones can turn Friesan Fire around...kind of sad to see what he has become the last couple years.

knickslions2 07-13-2011 08:24 PM

Dominguez may win all 3 of these

RolloTomasi 07-13-2011 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 791023)
Dominguez may win all 3 of these

I don't like Havre De Grace at 10f.

ateamstupid 07-14-2011 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 790776)
Run just about anything for a shot third place share of that.

I really don't understand it.

Fulla Sheets 07-15-2011 03:50 PM

TVG made a nice promo with the rivalry of Blind Luck and Havre De Grace. But they purposefully leave out the BC Ladies Classic to say the Del Cap is a rubber match between them.

Dahoss 07-16-2011 04:45 PM

Fantastic race

geeker2 07-16-2011 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 791974)
Fantastic race

:tro:

pba1817 07-16-2011 04:48 PM

Safe to say those are the 2 best dirt horses in training...

Clip-Clop 07-16-2011 04:50 PM

outstanding race!

Dahoss 07-16-2011 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 791979)
Safe to say those are the 2 best dirt horses in training...

No they aren't.

RolloTomasi 07-16-2011 04:52 PM

Ironically, Life At Ten was about as far behind these two at the finish as she was in the Breeder's Cup.

King Glorious 07-16-2011 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 791979)
Safe to say those are the 2 best dirt horses in training...

Of course they aren't. Morning Line and Tizway and Pool Land are.

Dahoss 07-16-2011 05:00 PM

Now I know they aren't.

King Glorious 07-16-2011 05:03 PM

Now I'm positive they are.

pba1817 07-16-2011 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 791982)
No they aren't.

Yea, they are, time will prove me right.

pba1817 07-16-2011 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 791988)
Of course they aren't. Morning Line and Tizway and Pool Land are.

Not one of these can beat either HDG or Bling Luck at 9f+...

King Glorious 07-16-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 791994)
Not one of these can beat either HDG or Bling Luck at 9f+...

I already know this. And you don't need time to be proven right. Anyone that has eyes and isn't afraid to admit that their sexist and outdated beliefs are wrong can already see that they are the best.

Dahoss 07-16-2011 05:10 PM

Dumb and dumbest.

pba1817 07-16-2011 05:13 PM

Hopefully I run into you somewhere so I can beat the hell out of you..

Dahoss 07-16-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 791999)
Anyone that has eyes and isn't afraid to admit that their sexist and outdated beliefs are wrong can already see that they are the best.

You've said a lot of really stupid things over the years, but this stands out.

King Glorious 07-16-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 792001)
Dumb and dumbest.

You and who else?

RolloTomasi 07-16-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 792003)
Hopefully I run into you somewhere so I can beat the hell out of you..

Apparently, all he has to do is get on Blind Luck or Havre De Grace and you won't catch him.

At least not at 9f+.

Dahoss 07-16-2011 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 792003)
Hopefully I run into you somewhere so I can beat the hell out of you..

:{>::{>:

pba1817 07-16-2011 05:20 PM

I definitely wont catch him if he is on one of those 2.

my miss storm cat 07-16-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 792003)
Hopefully I run into you somewhere so I can beat the hell out of you..

My favorite part of the thread was reading this line followed by your tagline.

Okay gentlemen, carry on.

pba1817 07-16-2011 05:23 PM

What wrong with a little violence?

King Glorious 07-16-2011 05:29 PM

Despite an idiotic attempt to denigrate others instead of admitting being wrong, it's still ok to actually talk about the race. For those that didn't see it, it was wonderful theatre. Rarely does a race match the hype it receives beforehand. Today, this one not only matched it but surpassed it. Two really top class runners hooked up at the top of the lane and ran stride for stride to the wire. Neither wanted to give way but at the end, it was Blind Luck inching away. Very nice to see them both bring it again and leave everyone feeling satisfied and looking forward to the next matchup.

my miss storm cat 07-16-2011 05:31 PM

Missed the race and I'm a huge Blind Luck fan so thanks for the visual.

Will catch the replay later.

Dahoss 07-16-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 792026)
Despite an idiotic attempt to denigrate others instead of admitting being wrong, it's still ok to actually talk about the race. For those that didn't see it, it was wonderful theatre. Rarely does a race match the hype it receives beforehand. Today, this one not only matched it but surpassed it. Two really top class runners hooked up at the top of the lane and ran stride for stride to the wire. Neither wanted to give way but at the end, it was Blind Luck inching away. Very nice to see them both bring it again and leave everyone feeling satisfied and looking forward to the next matchup.

What was I wrong about exactly?

You're right (finally), it was a fantastic race. Far too good to be soured by your idiocy and the tough guy who has 2 beers and then acts like Mike Tyson.

pba1817 07-16-2011 05:39 PM

1 beer, get it right...

Indian Charlie 07-16-2011 06:32 PM

This is the kind of talk I have referred to a few times in the last year, about the superlatives for Blind Luck being a bit far fetched.

I know the older males (or younger males!) aren't much this year and it would not be the most surprising thing ever if BL or HDG could beat them, but to say with certainty those are the two best dirt horses in the country is a big stretch.

I would be pretty surprised if either of them could beat TC or SC, on dirt, going 9.

Dunbar 07-16-2011 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 792017)
My favorite part of the thread was reading this line followed by your tagline.

Okay gentlemen, carry on.


Nice catch, mmsc. I missed that bit of choice irony.

--Dunbar

Dahoss 07-16-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 792071)
This is the kind of talk I have referred to a few times in the last year, about the superlatives for Blind Luck being a bit far fetched.

I know the older males (or younger males!) aren't much this year and it would not be the most surprising thing ever if BL or HDG could beat them, but to say with certainty those are the two best dirt horses in the country is a big stretch.

I would be pretty surprised if either of them could beat TC or SC, on dirt, going 9.

Sexist!

Cannon Shell 07-16-2011 10:08 PM

http://www.drf.com/news/delaware-par...aware-handicap

Larry Jones, the trainer of Havre de Grace, had said before the race that the felt the two-pound spread was worth about 1 1/4 lengths going 1 1/4 miles. Afterwards, Jones was clearly upset the weights were not equal.

"Tell me two pounds does not make a difference," Jones said. "She won six Grade 1's versus our one and we are the highweight. That makes a lot of sense. I probably should not have run."



Uh Larry... the two pounds doesnt make a difference...


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