Week/Weekend Beyers: Caleb/Mo 106; Stay Thirsty 101
 

Travers Day Beyers:

Caleb's Posse/Uncle Mo 106
Stay Thirsty 101
Hilda's Passion 100
Hot Summer 89
Daveron 100

Fire On Ice 90* (estimate; not official)

FYI.. From Friday:

SAR Bernard Baruch H (G2): Turallure 103 (C. Lopresti/J. Leparoux)

Action
 

did you see the way that hoss went yesterday ? derby hoss, what beautiful action. He's long and sturdy too, which should help him stay healthy. I think I'm in love.

Does Caleb's Posse shoot for the Sprint at 6F or the Dirt Mile at 1m?

Does anyone else think Mo and Shackleford should go for the Dirt Mile instead of the Classic?

He was brilliant. Mike Welsch joined Seth Merrow and I on TV Saturday morning and when I asked him for one horse on the card outside of the stakes he instantly barked out "Kimmel's Unbridled Song colt in the 2nd is working like a monster. Could be special, etc.." Rich Migliore as well has been around the Kimmel barn a lot this summer having his 2 Summit Racing colts there, and had spoken glowingly of the colt's promise.

That said, we'll see about 'Derby horse' material. His pedigree has a middle distance feel to it at a glance, and the female family has 'sprinty' up front. Fire On Ice's dam Lost in the Storm (Storm Cat) was unraced, but being out of Lost the Code (Lost Code) she is a half to Squirtle Squirt (Marquetry). Another sib of Lost in the Storm was Il Capricio (Langfuhr), a 3x winner (27/3-4-6; $88k) that never did anything beyond 7f. Lost the Code herself was a hard-knocking claiming mare that won 13x between 6-7f in 60 starts for $180k, (for Bernie Flint among many others).

That being said, if you want to look for latent route-going ability in Fire On Ice, he does hale from a VERY interesting and famous female family that goes back to top producing blue hens like Cherokee Rose and her dam The Squaw. Cherokee Rose (Princequillo) got Fast Turn (Turn-To), dam of the great Ack Ack (Sire of Broad Brush), and her full sister How won the CCAO, KY Oaks and Ladies H. After racing, How got Pocahontas (Roman) who won the Schuylerville ahead of her own career in the shed which saw a Broodmare of the Year distinction in 1965 via the exploits of her Chieftan (Bold Ruler) and... Tom Rolfe (Ribot)! A Canadian division of the female line has also seen classic success including 1997 Breeders S. winner John the Magician (Bold Ruckus).

Kimmel told me earlier that the Champagne (10/8/11) is likely next for Fire On Ice..

I like Fire On Ice too, but he has zero chance to be around by the derby. I'm surprised he's still in Kimmel's care to be honest. . . thought they'd sell him.

The 2nd place slowpoke is your classic distance horse with all the breeding -- and with enough raw speed to fool those connections into thinking they could win the Travers day MSW with him.

The show horse ran on well late - he's an interesting routing prospect too.

Kimmel owns this one so I would bet he is not replaced as trainer anytime soon.

Paul

Tough call... either you really hope for a meltdown in the Sprint, or you hope you can outrun some other decent mid-route type horses in the Dirt Mile.

"Thought they'd sell him"

Doesn't the combination of being conditioned by John Kimmel and being sired by Unbridled's Song sentence this colt to a career of less than 10 starts with at least 2 layoffs of 6 months or more?

What color is he? If he's grey his career will almost undoubtedly be over before the Kentucky Derby.

He is in fact, grey..

SAR Travers S (G1): Stay Thirsty (Bernardini) 101 (T. Pletcher/J. Castellano)
SAR Ballerina S (G1): Hilda's Passion (Canadian Frontier) 100 (T. Pletcher/J. Castellano)
SAR King's Bishop S (G1): Caleb's Posse (Posse) 106 (D. Von Hemel/R. Maragh)
SAR Ballston Spa S (G2): Daveron-GER (Black Sam Bellamy-IRE) 100 (H. Motion/E. Castro)
SAR Victory Ride S (G3): Hot Summer (Malibu Moon) 89 (D. Fawkes/C. Velasquez)
SAR Bernard Baruch H (G2): Turallure (Wando) 103 (C. Lopresti/J. Leparoux)
SAR Easy N Dirty S: Driven by Success (Precise End) 98 (T. Pletcher/C. Velasquez)

DMR Pacific Classic S (G1): Acclamation (Unusual Heat) 105 (D. Warren/P. Valenzuela)
DMR Pat O'Brien S (G1): The Factor (War Front) 104 (B. Baffert/M. Garcia)
DMR Del Mar H (G2): Celtic New Year (North Light-IRE) 96 (J. Sadler/V. Espinoza)
DMR Del Mar Mile H (G2): Caracortado (Cat Dreams) 97 (M. Machowsky/J. Talamo)
DMR CTT and TOC H: Private Affair-PER (Privately Held) 90 (R. Cardenas/H. Berrios)

CRC Susan's Girl S: Queen Drama (Burning Roma) 64 (D. Fawkes/D. Centeno)
CRC Affirmed S: Fort Loudon (Awesome of Course) 68 (S. Gold/L. Jurado)
CRC Catcharisingstar S: Citizen Advocate (Proud Citizen) 63 (D. Vivian /L. Jurado)
CRC Seacliff S: Midnight Serenade (Bandini) 75 (S. DiMauro/J. Alvarez)
CRC Lindsay Frolic S: Frolic's Revenge (Vindication) 75 (M. Wolfson/J. Leyva)
CRC Fasig Tipton Turf Dash S: Musical Flair (Songandaprayer) 75 (S. Santoro/J. Rios)

WO Ontario Colleen S (G3): Anne's Beauty (Artie Schiller) 87 (P. Attard/P. Husbands)
WO Play the King S (G2): Havelock (Great Notion) 93 (D. Miller/J. Bridgmohan)

10 STARTS? The under over is 5.5 lay 125 under

CRC Susan's Girl S: Queen Drama (Burning Roma) 64 (D. Fawkes/D. Centeno)
CRC Affirmed S: Fort Loudon (Awesome of Course) 68 (S. Gold/L. Jurado)
CRC Catcharisingstar S: Citizen Advocate (Proud Citizen) 63 (D. Vivian /L. Jurado)
CRC Seacliff S: Midnight Serenade (Bandini) 75 (S. DiMauro/J. Alvarez)
CRC Lindsay Frolic S: Frolic's Revenge (Vindication) 75 (M. Wolfson/J. Leyva)
CRC Fasig Tipton Turf Dash S: Musical Flair (Songandaprayer) 75 (S. Santoro/J. Rios)


Did these horses run an obstacle course or something?

Any update on Sunday's BSF from Del Mar?

DMR Pacific Classic S (G1): Acclamation 105
DMR Pat O'Brien S (G1): The Factor 104
DMR Del Mar H (G2): Celtic New Year 96

DMR Pacific Classic S (G1): Acclamation 105......Will never see dirt
DMR Pat O'Brien S (G1): The Factor 104....Smiling Tiger had a view of his ass hole
DMR Del Mar H (G2): Celtic New Year 96...was shocked that Victor got him to rate

Not me.

I think Mo will be deadly at 10f.

Then again, I've been without Internet access for over two days now, and as far as I know, Mo might have been retired by now.

He's run on dirt multiple times. I get the impression that the owner will be more worried about top class Euros in the Turf than anything that may go in the Classic.

If he doesn't go in the Classic he probably won't be in the BC period (he's not eligible).

Even if he could go 10f, he has no time to prepare for it. He'd be lucky to do as well as French Deputy, Hold That Tiger, or Formal Gold should he go in the Classic.

Obviously time is an issue.

However, FD and FG faced MUCH MUCH MUCH better horses than anything that might be in the gate come this years BCC.

I'll take the over....he is long and sturdy looking with a nice way of going

Keep going with your thoughts they can copy and paste them once he is retired for his stallion page. Didn't Kimmel have a nice horse with Gindi last year?

I don't know about no Beyers, but Uncle Mo's winning type performance has restored my faith in horse racing.

The current odds on the Wynn website show Uncle Mo at 50 - 1. I'm not a fan of future bets but that looks like value to me. If they can get him back to anywhere near the horse that ran last year in the BC the big question will be 10 panels but if he just makes it to the starting gate he'll be less than 10 -1.

William Hill has Uncle Mo future posted at 8 - 1 for the BC Classics the same as Tizway. His stable mate Stay Thirsty is the shortest price at 7 - 1. They offered up one Euro, Await The Dawn (10-1), a son of Giant's Causeway out of a Dixieland Band mare owned by Coolmore, who has 5 wins in 7 starts, looks to be a 10 furlong specialist and the ATR website indicates his next propable start to be in the QEII, a one mile group 1 at Ascot on October 15.

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en...p-Classic.html

I'm thinking for Stay Thirsty to win the BCC this year, it would need to be a walkover.

The 3-year-old crop is truly puke... but he's emerged as the best router and soundest of it. I suppose he has to show some people he isn't a Saratoga horse like Laywer Ron .. as he's run his best races at both age 2 and 3 here.

The triple crown lead-in was comedy unlike no other -- the triple crown series was comedy (first-time dirt wins the KY Derby, Shakleford the Preakness, Ruler on Ice the Belmont -- and Animal Kingdom was easily the star of that series)

The Haskell was so freaking slow -- that Quiet Giant ran a faster number on the card winning some garbage stake race. I think the Haskell got the 3rd highest Beyer of the days four route races ... only a cheap starter alw race was somehow slower than the Haskell among the routes.

Stay Thirsty was the only horse in the Travers who didn't run like a complete pig.

This group is almost as slow as the Sea Hero group from 1993.

The Breeders Cup Juveniles are being won with record or near record speed figures every year. Stevie Wonderboy's win was smoking fast, Street Sense's win was smoking fast, War Pass's win was smoking fast, Uncle Mo's win was smoking fast. Shame that only Street Sense held it together. All of them ran BC Juvie figures that would have drowned Arazi.

I'm not so convinced that he's the best 3yo router, but perhaps of the top ones, he is the soundest.

Also, as pathetic as the older horses are, I'm having trouble seeing Stay Thirsty beating the top ones that are in training, as of now.

The older males are fine as long as the big two stay healthy.

The older females are fine as long as the big two stay healthy.

To Honor and Serve, Uncle Mo, and The Factor all looked good last week at least. It's Stay Thirsty's division for now

Heck, I think at this point, there might not be much difference between ST and THAS. Going 10 at CD though, if Mo is still around, I don't see ST beating him.

You know, I don't think I can come up with any three year old this year that has more than a single grade one win this year!

Three year old Grade 1
 

No three year old colts have won more than one Grade 1 race. It's Tricky, a filly, has won two Grade 1 stakes.

They should give Uncle Mo champion three year old honors for his two grade one wins as a two year old.

Ironically, 3yos finished 1-2 in the Jockey Club Gold Cup that year. I think another 3yo was even favored in the race (Diazo).

Of course, those same two 3yos were last and second last in the BC Classic in their next start. Kissin Kris was able to get 3rd place to save some face for the 3yo crop at least.

Tizway and who??? Flat Out?