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Romans benched a week for NY bute positive
http://www.drf.com/news/aqueduct-rom...azone-positive
Trainer Dale Romans was to begin serving a seven-day suspension Monday as a result of one of his horses testing positive for phenylbutazone, a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, following a race last November at Aqueduct. The suspension was reduced from 10 days for Romans waiving his right of appeal. Romans also was fined $1,000 by the New York State Racing and Wagering Board. Romans, who has horses based in New York and Florida, said Sunday he was not planning on running anything this week at either Aqueduct or Gulfstream Park. |
Romans won the award for best put-over in 2011 with Sassy Image.
![]() Sassy Image should have been about 500/1 odds on the Kentucky Derby day undercard in the Humana Distaff. She opened at like 9/1 and went off 16/1 on the biggest betting day of the year. She had some corrective throat surgery during the layoff before the Humana Distaff...and was being bet heavily into the wildly superior Hilda's Passion. Whoever the vet was who did her surgery should have got an eclipse. Romans winning the Breeders Cup Mile with Court Vision over Goldikova and Gio Ponti at Churchill later in the year was like a perfectly logical outcome compared to that pig Sassy Image being transformed into the top female sprinter in the land overnight. |
Good work, Doug. Classic!
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the horse got gout from him..then cured it..
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You would have had to have faith to bet her, but you certainly didn't need divine intervention. |
Sassy's Image was the only horse Dale ran that weekend that he didn't even particularly like.
Some putover. |
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She opened up second choice in the betting in a race where she looked pathetic on paper. |
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One of the luckiest breaks I got all year is that I did not bring my Internet card with my laptop to the track that day ... because I would have lost every dollar betting against Sassy Image in the betting exchange that day ... and probably tossed my laptop across the clubhouse. I remember someone came over to me after that race and told me they bet on Sassy Image and showed me a ticket and I was mad enough to choke them. |
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By the way, was Hilda's Passion a bit of a form reversal....or does she get a pass from you as it might interupt your little story? |
Whatever.
She sucked until her throat surgery...there was no published reports of her throat surgery...she was bet... and she did make a gigantic form reversal. Those are all facts. You're friends with Romans and his son, cool. I shouldn't have said "putover" I suppose. I'm sure Romans proabably wasn't the one betting her because Court Vision had a better chance going into the Mile on paper. |
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I'm not suggesting you or anyone else should have had her on race day, but with all the subsequent information, Sassy Image turned out to be a good example of the limitations of past performances. I wouldn't doubt there were some astute people at the track who took a gamble that she was better than the Sabin suggested. Instead of pretending that Romans put one over on everyone, just admit that your handicap of the race was botched and bring a red pen along with your laptop next time. |
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Her dirt form with Pletcher: ![]() What Sassy Image looked like coming into this race....she stalked a pace that was slow on everyones pace figures and still backed up. ![]() Amen Halliuja had just crushed Sassy's Image by double digit lengths in two of her last three races. Sassy's Image is shorter than her in the betting at one point in a race with a $2 million + plus WPS pool. Tidal Pool (for the most overbet human connections possible at Churchill) is longer than SI at one point in the betting. ![]() Evening Jewel was beaten a nose in the KY Oaks over the track and came into the race in good form. She's longer at one point. But yeah. Sassy Image just made so much sense. She hadn't run a Beyer higher than 89 in her career... She hadn't won a race in a year and a half. She just got drowned by 14 lengths stalking a slow pace. How did she not figure to win this Grade 1 by open lengths? |
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As for the Sabin, even if we don't know about the wind issue, at the very least, the fact that she was sent to press the front end was atypical of all her previous starts (including her comeback just a month prior). One could suggest that the change of tactics completely backfired, and therefore the race could be tossed. The fact that she was entered in a Grade 1 off the Sabin strengthens that notion. Quote:
You simply don't want to read between the lines. Or maybe you're just not much handicapper right now. Try some throat surgery. |
Disingenuous?
You're right. I was being disingenuous all along. I realized she was slow (everyone else in the fields last race was open lengths faster than her career top) and I realized she hadn't won a race in a year and a half...and I love horses who enter Grade 1's off of layoffs. Didn't bother me at all... because I read between the lines. This is a picture of the money I made from betting Sassy Image...I needed to carry it back in bags. ![]() I laid some of it out on my bed... ![]() Tiger Woods fist pump! ![]() I threw a party that night where I invited no one but my laptops and it got out of hand. ![]() Sassy Image!, baby! Again. She sucked until her throat surgery...there was no published reports of her throat surgery...she was bet... and she did make a gigantic form reversal. Those are all facts. All that race did was sink me in multi-win bets where I singled the 2nd place. I can't say I'm not bitter about it ... but it is what it is. |
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I think you're presuming too much about the all important throat surgery. Dale Romans called it "minor". It probably was only significant as it pertains to her Sabin performance. I highly doubt she won several stakes as a 2yo with a major airway problem. Using strictly Beyers, off a near year layoff, she ran an 89 when her previous best was a 79. It's not unreasonable to believe she could continue to improve from that starting point. Unfortunately, she didn't have any races between March and May to prove the point. Hence the 16-1 odds. But whatever, trying to reason it logically sucks compared to arrogant, pig-headed paranoia. Let's move on to Case 2 and the titanic form reversal of the since deflated Flat Out in last year's Suburban. Do you think they secretly untwisted a testicle or something? That would hold me back. |
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He had a similar three race magic form reversal before he started to tail off. |
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Check your PM's though. |
Best thread we've had in a long time!
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Thursday at Saratoga VS Kenucky Derby undercard.
Sassy Image pays $34.20 to win. A 5-to-1 shot wins the next race and the double pays $474.60 (the parlay is $191) Aikenite wins the next and pays $28.60. The double with the same 5/1 winner to him pays $164.80 (the parlay is $160) Pick 4: $5.40 favorite $22.60 $8.80 $34.20 (Sassy Image) That pays $14,416.00 Sassy Image was hammered in the WPS pool in relation to gimmicks. Considering the WPS pool was over $2 million someone bet her. |
I can't believe you didn't reimburse the microphone money, considering you're swimming in C-Notes a la Warran T.
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That's how true Megalomaniac's roll. |
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My Meglomaniacness started at birth. I was an authority of all things looooong before I posted my way to Meglomaniac greatness. I wasn't "delivered" in a traditional manner at birth -- rather, I JUMPED out of the womb, on my way to doing a motherfucl<ing 360 rim-wrecker up in the doctor's fucl<ing face, and in doing so, impressing the nurse* to no end with my mad game, making it a simple matter to get those panties off, and drop the hammer with my erect-since-birth instrument of female-bliss. From that moment on, I knew I was destined for internet greatness. * - OK...so she was a little chunky. I was young, cut me some fucl<ing slack |
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I guess a pic of a check would have been a lot less cool. Make it rain Dougie..:$::$: |
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Longshots are always overbet on big days...Derby, BC...I guess that covers all the big days. Wasn't she the longest shot in the field?
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By post time she was.
Tidal Pool was the second longest horse in the race at 13/1 for the always overbet combo (in flat wagers) of Calvin Borel and DWL. ![]() ![]() Sassy Image certainly proved herself easily the best female dirt sprinter alive on this day ... after entering off of a layoff, not having won a race at any level in a year and a half, and never having run a Beyer higher than 89. I don't think any female sprinter from the last few years had a chance with her on that day. I know multiple people have told me Romans bet her -- but that's not the point and I don't really care if he did. She took insider money that day, that much is obvious. She wasn't being bet on the strength of her recent form. She wasn't bet in most gimmicks in relation to how she was flat. |
If you could somehow work Randy Moss or a TVG contest into this thread it might be the best thread ever.
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If Randy Moss had a surgery -- the press who covers the NFL would report about it...because they have a habit of doing their job.
TVG contests don't exist anymore. |
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You know I'm just busting balls and I wholeheartedly agree about the horse racing media in general. Not all, but most are piss poor to be nice. Things like these surgeries should absolutely be reported on. But, I think you're exaggerating a bit on some things here. Sassy's Image wasn't easy to have, but she also wasn't as impossible as you are making her seem. I didn't bet her, but if you were taking a shot Hilda's Passion would not replicate her Gulfstream races, she was a viable candidate. |
Every article that was written about the Humana Distaff -- including DRF and Bloodhorse didn't mention a single word about her.
DRF did a 7-minute handicapping video on the Humana Distaff... and the two handicappers went over every other horse in the race except her. They even spent over a minute talking about the Sunland Park invader. Not one word about Sassy Image in the 7-minute video ... and no knock on them .. because there was nothing to say other than "why is she entered here?" It was a rare Grade 1 for female sprinters ... and she didn't have a top four finish in a stakes race anywhere in a year and a half. |
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I agree on this 1. Vs that company, with her form and the layoff she had no right winning that race. I dont think your going over the top at all. The 89 top beyer says it all, dont we all love beyers around here? |
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Again, not easy to have, but I don't think she was impossible. When I think of putover, I think of Pretty Boy Freud on the Travers undercard. Who ironically also had an unreported surgery prior to the race. |
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