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Kasept 04-04-2012 03:35 PM

4/7 (SA): SA Derby (G1), Potrero Grande (G2), Providencia (G3)
 
6th (2:30) Santa Anita Derby (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Creative Cause Rosario J 122 Blk-Off L 6-5
2 Liaison Bejarano R 122 L 8-1
3 Holy Candy Quinonez A 122 L 8-1
4 I'll Have Another Gutierrez Mario 122 L 5-2
5 Longview Drive Baze R A 122 L 12-1
6 Paynter Garcia M 122 L 12-1
7 Senor Rain Flores E 122 L 15-1
8 Midnight Transfer Smith M E 122 L 10-1
9 Blueskiesnrainbows Talamo J 122 Blk-Off L 20-1
10 Brother Francis Gomez G K 122 L 20-1



8th (3:30) Providencia S. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Lady of Shamrock Smith M E 118 L
2 Island Paradise (IRE) Flores D R 118
3 Killer Graces Bejarano R 123 L
4 Byrama (GB) Gomez G K 118 L
5 Charm the Maker Rosario J 118 L
6 Ms Pianist Pedroza M A 118 L
7 Indigo River (IRE) Talamo J 118 L



9th (4:00) Potrero Grande S. (G2)

6 1/2 Furlongs | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Sway Away Bejarano R 118 L
2 Amazombie Smith M E 123 L
3 Mensa Heat Gomez G K 118 L
4 Smart Spending Rosario J 118 L
5 Roman Threat Garcia M 118 L
6 Camp Victory Talamo J 118 L
7 Courtside Castanon A L 118 L
8 Thunder of Zion Bisono A 118 Blk-On L
9 Thinking of Girls Vergara D P 118 L



10th (4:30) American Beauty S.

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Rosehill Dew (IRE) Gomez G K 116 L
2 Calle Vista Garcia M 116 L
3 A Jealous Woman Blanc B 116 L
4 Belle Royale (IRE) Rosario J 123 L
5 Imperialistic Diva (IRE) Flores E 116 Blk-On L
6 Sweetly Peppered Bejarano R 120 L
7 Briecat Talamo J 118 L
8 Gem of Soul (BRZ) Maldonado E 116 L
9 Go Forth North Flores D R 116 L

outofthebox 04-04-2012 05:41 PM

Not very often you see a blinker change after running possibly your best race yet. But this is what is happening with Creative Cause. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, just that it will put a bad taste in the mouth of the bettors if he does not win.

Travis Stone 04-04-2012 06:17 PM

At least it's blinkers off. But I hear you. Now is the time to try though.

Dahoss 04-04-2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 850551)
6th (2:30) Santa Anita Derby (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Creative Cause Rosario J 122 Blk-Off L 6-5
2 Liaison Bejarano R 122 L 8-1
3 Holy Candy Quinonez A 122 L 8-1
4 I'll Have Another Gutierrez Mario 122 L 5-2
5 Longview Drive Baze R A 122 L 12-1
6 Paynter Garcia M 122 L 12-1
7 Senor Rain Flores E 122 L 15-1
8 Midnight Transfer Smith M E 122 L 10-1
9 Blueskiesnrainbows Talamo J 122 Blk-Off L 20-1
10 Brother Francis Gomez G K 122 L 20-1

:$::$:

blackthroatedwind 04-04-2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 850645)
:$::$:

At least they got Garcia off him.

Jerry Garcia would have given him a better ride last time.

Gate Dancer 04-05-2012 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 850647)
At least they got Garcia off him.

Jerry Garcia would have given him a better ride last time.

In respect for Masters week............I believe Sergio Garcia would have given him a better ride.

tywizard 04-06-2012 09:24 PM

Has anyone noticed that fiddlers Afleet in the 7th is the 9/5 ML favorite but is one of a just a few being offered up for claiming. I like others better anyway but just curious on whether I should ignore this or if it may be a sign that the connections are losing confidence. Thanks.

Sightseek 04-06-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tywizard (Post 851040)
Has anyone noticed that fiddlers Afleet in the 7th is the 9/5 ML favorite but is one of a just a few being offered up for claiming. I like others better anyway but just curious on whether I should ignore this or if it may be a sign that the connections are losing confidence. Thanks.

Without looking at the race or knowing the horses involved, check out the conditions of the race.

NTamm1215 04-06-2012 09:46 PM

It's nice that Bill Spawr had to claim a horse for 16k to use as a rabbit for his Eclipse Award winning sprinter. If he had that big a problem with the track, he could have shipped.

RockHardTen1985 04-07-2012 07:13 AM

I don't really see any problem with it.

Merlinsky 04-07-2012 04:46 PM

"@TTimes Approaching post time for Santa Anita Derby. No, your eyes aren't fooling you. That IS multiple G1 winner Lava Man ponying I'll Have Another"

Huh, cool. :)

pointman 04-07-2012 04:59 PM

Amazing how those Baffert's outrun their odds. Which is even more reason why Liason is not a Derby horse.

Nice win by I'll Have Another.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-07-2012 05:14 PM

C.C. is a talented pu c. Should make a big internal move, and, if he stops, so what? Ain't gunna win a stretch fight. So, turn it into a bank robbery.

RolloTomasi 04-07-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 851224)
C.C. is a talented pu c. Should make a big internal move, and, if he stops, so what? Ain't gunna win a stretch fight. So, turn it into a bank robbery.

Didn't he win the San Felipe in a "stretch fight"?

RockHardTen1985 04-07-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 851249)
Didn't he win the San Felipe in a "stretch fight"?

Not really. He should have won that for fun, insteaD he let's a 3rd time runner who was pressed into a hot pace almost re rally and beat him

RolloTomasi 04-07-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 851299)
Not really. He should have won that for fun, insteaD he let's a 3rd time runner who was pressed into a hot pace almost re rally and beat him

You're living in a fantasy land. Bodemeister promtped the pace, put away the other speed, and shook clear before being collared at the 1/8th pole by Creative Cause, who immediately went to drifting in and out. That kept a game Bodemeister involved to the 1/16th pole, at which point Creative Cause straightened up and put the "third time runner" away decisively in the span of about 100 yards.

There was no "re-rally" from Bodemeister and Creative Cause certainly never came close to giving up the lead (since he never had it until nearing the wire).

SCUDSBROTHER 04-07-2012 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 851300)
You're living in a fantasy land. Bodemeister promtped the pace, put away the other speed, and shook clear before being collared at the 1/8th pole by Creative Cause, who immediately went to drifting in and out. That kept a game Bodemeister involved to the 1/16th pole, at which point Creative Cause straightened up and put the "third time runner" away decisively in the span of about 100 yards.

There was no "re-rally" from Bodemeister and Creative Cause certainly never came close to giving up the lead (since he never had it until nearing the wire).

Well, his heart is not that of Jackson Bend's. He needs a horse to get tired. If someone has something left, CC will probably not get it.

RockHardTen1985 04-08-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 851302)
Well, his heart is not that of Jackson Bend's. He needs a horse to get tired. If someone has something left, CC will probably not get it.

Why back off your original opinion because of that ______???

RolloTomasi 04-08-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 851302)
Well, his heart is not that of Jackson Bend's. He needs a horse to get tired. If someone has something left, CC will probably not get it.

The horse lost one photo. Tough crowd.

I guess he's no better than Easy Goer.

RolloTomasi 04-08-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 851366)
Why back off your original opinion because of that ______???

Yeah, it makes more sense to remain silent after getting your head handed to you.

Of course, you invariably put it right back up your a55 anyways, so shame on me for even bothering.

RockHardTen1985 04-08-2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 851425)
Yeah, it makes more sense to remain silent after getting your head handed to you.

Of course, you invariably put it right back up your a55 anyways, so shame on me for even bothering.

Shame on you for even bothering? You follow me around here like no one else at this point. You have joined the ILLUSTRIOUS group of 3 who have an issue with me. Bottom line is, I agree with his original post.... You come in and he backs off it. Check blood horse, Im not the only one who feels that way about CC. I lost respect for you last summer when your were blatently wrong about Mr. Commons, but insisted you were right.

RolloTomasi 04-08-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 851478)
Shame on you for even bothering? You follow me around here like no one else at this point. You have joined the ILLUSTRIOUS group of 3 who have an issue with me.

I follow you around? That's rich. Scuds posts something about Creative Cause, I respond, and then you respond.

Yeah, I'm one of those clever stalkers that follows you around by walking in front of you.

Quote:

Bottom line is, I agree with his original post.... You come in and he backs off it. Check blood horse, Im not the only one who feels that way about CC.
If it's in the Blood-Horse, it must be true. Like how Home Sweet Aspen is a Cal-bred.

They give that magazine away for free nowadays, don't you know?

Quote:

I lost respect for you last summer when your were blatently wrong about Mr. Commons, but insisted you were right.
When was I wrong? When I said he should have been on the turf in the spring instead chasing Triple Crown pipe dreams? When I said that he should have stayed in his own age group during the latter part of last year?

You can't really think that because he was an ordinary 5th in the BC Mile after half the field was taken out of the race at the 1/8th pole, that your opinion was somehow "correct"? Or that beating Willyconker and Massone this year puts him in the upper echelon of turf horses?

Especially since he couldn't handle Willyconker a second time.

RockHardTen1985 04-08-2012 11:10 PM

Just recently there was the Donnie L's grandson comments and you insulting me about Take Charge Indy... Yea I liked Zo Impressive. I also made it clear that I played TCI in derby future pool 1. You made up some crap then, and I did not run from you or anyone. I ignored it, because I have learned my lesson about you and your new team of 3. You know the 3 I speak of, it was 2 now its 3. Like the wolfpack in the Hangover... You get my point. Anyway thats 2 things just in the past 10 days. So I dont have to say anything else about that. As for Mr. Commons Im talking about last summer when we went on for a week about a trip he pulled. If you dont respect me, thats fine. No one around here does. Its cool. There are some things I dont appreciate. Back to the Thunder Moccasin thing... I was told he worked March 13th. If the guys lying, thats fine... Why would he?

RolloTomasi 04-08-2012 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 851482)
Just recently there was the Donnie L's grandson comments and you insulting me about Take Charge Indy... Yea I liked Zo Impressive. I also made it clear that I played TCI in derby future pool 1. You made up some crap then, and I did not run from you or anyone. I ignored it, because I have learned my lesson about you and your new team of 3. You know the 3 I speak of, it was 2 now its 3. Like the wolfpack in the Hangover... You get my point. Anyway thats 2 things just in the past 10 days. So I dont have to say anything else about that. As for Mr. Commons Im talking about last summer when we went on for a week about a trip he pulled. If you dont respect me, thats fine. No one around here does. Its cool. There are some things I dont appreciate. Back to the Thunder Moccasin thing... I was told he worked March 13th. If the guys lying, thats fine... Why would he?

Hi, Jack.

Indian Charlie 04-09-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockTardHen1985 (Post 851482)
Just recently there was the Donnie L's grandson comments and you insulting me about Take Charge Indy... Yea I liked Zo Impressive. I also made it clear that I played TCI in derby future pool 1. You made up some crap then, and I did not run from you or anyone. I ignored it, because I have learned my lesson about you and your new team of 3. You know the 3 I speak of, it was 2 now its 3. Like the wolfpack in the Hangover... You get my point. Anyway thats 2 things just in the past 10 days. So I dont have to say anything else about that. As for Mr. Commons Im talking about last summer when we went on for a week about a trip he pulled. If you dont respect me, thats fine. No one around here does. Its cool. There are some things I dont appreciate. Back to the Thunder Moccasin thing... I was told he worked March 13th. If the guys lying, thats fine... Why would he?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhEQ1E8XPp4

richard 04-10-2012 03:57 PM

What racing fan did not think of Luck during the Santa Anita broadcast? You had Ronnie Jenkins on camera. It would have been great to see Ace, Gus and Turo, or Walter Smith, or Foray Stable, beat Reddam and O'Neil.


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