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Kasept 06-11-2012 06:29 AM

6/16 (CD): Foster (G1), Fleur de Lis (G2), Regret, Winn (G3's)
 
5th (7:57) Matt Winn S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Macho Macho Leparoux J R 118 LA
2 Stealcase Bridgmohan S X 118 LA
3 Right to Vote Castellano J J 118
4 Neck 'n Neck Goncalves L R 118 L
5 Master Rick Nakatani C S 120 LA


6th (8:30) Regret S. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Singn On Themoon Saez G 118 L
2 Centre Court Castellano J J 118 LA
3 Colonial Flag Leparoux J R 118 LA
4 Treasured Up Napravnik R 118 LA
5 Silver Hustler Nakatani C S 118 LA
6 Zapper Belle Hill C 118 LA
7 Coup Velazquez J R 118 LA
8 Dame Marie Lanerie C J 118 LA
9 Left a Message Sellers S J 118 LA
10 Heart of Destiny Bridgmohan S X 118 LA
11 Funny Proposition Mena M 118 LA



7th (9:05) Fleur de Lis H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 St. John's River Napravnik R 118 LA
2 Sterling Madame Goncalves L R 115 L
3 Afleeting Lady Lanerie C J 116 LA
4 Distorted Love Mena M 114 L
5 Royal Delta Smith M E 123 LA
6 It's Tea Time Castellano J J 115 LA


8th (9:39) Stephen Foster H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Nates Mineshaft Campbell J M 118 LA
2 Fort Larned Leparoux J R 117 L
3 Wise Dan Velazquez J R 123 L
4 Nehro Nakatani C S 116 LA
5 Ron the Greek Lezcano J 119 LA
6 Rogue Romance Cruz M R 115 LA
7 Mission Impazible Castellano J J 116 LA
8 Alternation Quinonez L S 122 L
9 Successful Dan Velazquez J R 119 LA

A-Coupled: Wise Dan and Successful Dan

South Beach Luv 06-11-2012 07:15 AM

Was Shackleford a possibility at some point?

http://www.churchilldowns.com/news/a...ves-foster-bid

Quote:

Mike Lauffer and Bill Cubbedge’s homebred Shackleford, winner of the Met Mile (GI) by a nose over Caleb’s Posse, is weighted next at 121 pounds. The Met Mile was the second graded stakes victory of 2012 for Shackleford, who also won the Churchill Downs Presented by Navistar (GII) on the Kentucky Derby Day undercard. His biggest victory as a 3-year-old came in the Preakness (GI), where he was able to hold off a late charge by Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (GI) winner Animal Kingdom to win for trainer Dale Romans.

VOL JACK 06-11-2012 08:06 AM

nice field.

Coach Pants 06-11-2012 08:27 AM

Heh. Maybe they'll break 1:50. I'm sure it will be a magical day at Roman Downs. I'm bringing the neighborhood. I'm sure they'll love getting their wallet out 5 f.ucking times before they get to their seats.

Roman Downs: Stay away, peasants. We ain't give a f.uck about horse racing.

Gate Dancer 06-11-2012 08:39 AM

Looking forward to the entire card with the other stakes races as well. Should be a fun Saturday night!!

tywizard 06-11-2012 11:03 AM

Projected odds if that's the field?

pucknut 06-11-2012 01:36 PM

cant wait to see if wise dan passes this test
this field screams that the announcement of the death of horse racing by the paper tiger negative journalists was premature

RolloTomasi 06-11-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pucknut (Post 868189)
cant wait to see if wise dan passes this test
this field screams that the announcement of the death of horse racing by the paper tiger negative journalists was premature

Several of the important older horse races have been fairly competitive this year, including the Donn, Oaklawn Handicap, Alysheba, Pimlico Special, Met Mile, and possibly this race.

However, with the exception of the Met Mile, there has been little by way of true Grade 1 talent.

Unfortunately, missing from action is Mucho Macho Man, who hasn't worked since his disappointing effort at Churchill. He looked to have a big year and could have added to some of these races. At least Flat Out, now in Bill Mott's barn, appears to be closing in on a start.

Meanwhile, I hope something from back East takes a shot at the Hollywood Gold Cup. I'd rather not see Game On Dude and Richard's Kid run 1-2 in a merry-go-round 5-horse field. Morning Line is probably toast and was suspect at 10f anyways. Maybe Hymn Book will forego the Suburban to take a shot. Ron The Greek, too, since he's already won in CA and might be kept apart from new stablemate Flat Out.

pucknut 06-11-2012 03:50 PM

rollo i hope you are wrong and ron stays for this that will make this very intriguing and might not some of these go to toga with that new purse structure the other tracks may want to go dark

RockHardTen1985 06-11-2012 07:35 PM

This Saturday??

pucknut 06-12-2012 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 868234)
This Saturday??

you bet
check the link Setve posted above
royal delta on tap too for the downs after dark
what saturdays back to back
i will be at foxwoods p[laying poker and betting the another song steven foster wrote

RockHardTen1985 06-12-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pucknut (Post 868261)
you bet
check the link Setve posted above
royal delta on tap too for the downs after dark
what saturdays back to back
i will be at foxwoods p[laying poker and betting the another song steven foster wrote

Yea I checked it all out. Royal Delta back is great, but it looks like she's facing a max of 4 horses. I'm excited to see Matz 3yr old turf filly step up. I like her.

Calzone Lord 06-13-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 868525)
CD 8 -- G1 Stephen Foster

1-Nate's Mineshaft
2-Fort Larned
3-Wise Dan
4-Nehro
5-Ron the Greek
6-Rogue Romance
7-Mission Impazible
8-Alternation
9-Successful Dan

Why are both of the Dan brothers entered?

Seems a little disconcerting in regard to WD.

Kasept 06-13-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 868526)
Why are both of the Dan brothers entered?

Seems a little disconcerting.

Thought the same thing. Lopresti said he was entering Successful only if there was an issue with Wise..

Kasept 06-13-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 868526)
Why are both of the Dan brothers entered?

Seems a little disconcerting in regard to WD.

Just talked to Lopresti. After what happened with Belmont, he figured there's no harm entering Successful Dan and SCR'ing. Says Wise Dan 100% but if he should spike a fever or cough or whatever, at least Mr. Fink would be represented in the race with Successful Dan. As long as Wise Dan runs as expected, Successful Dan will go to Cornhusker or Suburban.

dpkovalesky 06-13-2012 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 868529)
Just talked to Lopresti. After what happened with Belmont, he figured there's no harm entering Successful Dan and SCR'ing. Says Wise Dan 100% but if he should spike a fever or cough or whatever, at least Mr. Fink would be represented in the race with Successful Dan. As long as Wise Dan runs as expected, Successful Dan will go to Cornhusker or Suburban.

there goes my shot at the dan exacta..

Mawhip 06-13-2012 02:32 PM

Looks like Lezcano lost the mount on Royal Delta.

10 pnt move up 06-13-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mawhip (Post 868556)
Looks like Lezcano lost the mount on Royal Delta.

why?

cakes44 06-14-2012 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 868605)
why?

Because Mike Smith is on fire.

pucknut 06-14-2012 06:47 AM

any guesses on the post time odds for the smarter of the dan brothers

10 pnt move up 06-14-2012 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 868685)
Because Mike Smith is on fire.

I will take it you don't know the real answer.

Danzig 06-14-2012 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mawhip (Post 868556)
Looks like Lezcano lost the mount on Royal Delta.

i'm figuring lezcano is being blamed for her poor dubai showing. they have repeatedly criticized her trip in that race.

asudevil 06-14-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 868296)
Yea I checked it all out. Royal Delta back is great, but it looks like she's facing a max of 4 horses. I'm excited to see Matz 3yr old turf filly step up. I like her.



Half sis to Shared Account.

10 pnt move up 06-14-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 868769)
i'm figuring lezcano is being blamed for her poor dubai showing. they have repeatedly criticized her trip in that race.

What happened in her comeback race? I honestly never saw it.

Danzig 06-14-2012 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 868826)
What happened in her comeback race? I honestly never saw it.

this is from the bloodhorse article about the FDL:


She came off a runner-up finish to Awesome Maria in the Sabin Stakes (gr. III) at Gulfstream Park to finish ninth against the boys in the March 31 Dubai World Cup after being stopped in traffic last time out at Meydan.

“She just had a very poor trip in the Dubai World Cup,” remarked Benjamin Leon, owner of Besilu Stable. “I believe she’s capable of competing at that level and with a better trip I think she could have won. I’m really hoping she stays healthy and wins enough this year to be invited back again. I think she could become the first female to win the Dubai World Cup; she’s definitely of that caliber.”


here's an article and comments from the connections after the race:

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/dubai...world-cup.aspx


and really, i don't know if they have a valid bone to pick with lezcano-maybe she doesn't like awt's? maybe the owner doesn't like that he paid out a ton of money for the horse and she finished ninth, so he has to have a person to blame?
i do like the fact tho that when he told pletcher he was giving RD and some of his others to mott, (moved some to chad brown as well) that pletcher didn't like it, so he took them all away.

OldDog 06-15-2012 08:06 AM

I just can't bet any of these races. There's no detention barn, for goodness' sake, and some of the horses won't even ship in until the day of the race.

pucknut 06-15-2012 08:07 AM

plus its at night how are you going to see it

cakes44 06-15-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 868971)
I just can't bet any of these races. There's no detention barn, for goodness' sake, and some of the horses won't even ship in until the day of the race.

That was good sh!t coach.

Indian Charlie 06-15-2012 03:16 PM

Coach?

WGA 06-15-2012 07:37 PM

Race 6 Regret Stakes looks like a good bettting opportunity. Funny Proposition (8-1), Heart of Destiny (12-1), Silver Hustler (20-1), Zapper Belle (20-1), Singn On Themoon (20-1), Treasured Up (10-1) all look possible in exotics.

cakes44 06-16-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 869141)
Coach?

Sorry, just a phrase of mine.

XIIPointStables 06-16-2012 08:09 PM

Royal Delta.

Visually spectacular.

King Glorious 06-16-2012 08:36 PM

I like Alternation over Fort Larned with Nehro and Mission Impazible next.

ateamstupid 06-16-2012 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 869495)
I like Alternation over Fort Larned with Nehro and Mission Impazible next.

That's pretty impressive.

Arletta 06-16-2012 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 869497)
That's pretty impressive.

:wf

King Glorious 06-16-2012 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 869497)
That's pretty impressive.

Unfortunately, my computer cut off while I was posting so this is going to come off as a redboard but I honestly was going to say..........I like them to finish as the last four.

I wish I could have the last few minutes back. That race was brutal to watch. It had to just drop Game on Dude to odds-on for the BC Classic.

ateamstupid 06-16-2012 09:09 PM

Why did Velazquez have Wise Dan so close to the pace? Seemed like he was so freaked out about Nate's Mineshaft getting away from him that he ended up setting the table for a plodder like Ron the Greek to come along and nail him.

Indian Charlie 06-16-2012 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 869500)
Unfortunately, my computer cut off while I was posting so this is going to come off as a redboard but I honestly was going to say..........I like them to finish as the last four.

I wish I could have the last few minutes back. That race was brutal to watch. It had to just drop Game on Dude to odds-on for the BC Classic.

It cut off and somehow magically hit the submit reply button for you?

sweeeet

King Glorious 06-16-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 869502)
It cut off and somehow magically hit the submit reply button for you?

sweeeet

That is my story. It's either that or be forced to admit to have basically done the worst handicapping job this board has seen in a long time.

RockHardTen1985 06-16-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 869501)
Why did Velazquez have Wise Dan so close to the pace? Seemed like he was so freaked out about Nate's Mineshaft getting away from him that he ended up setting the table for a plodder like Ron the Greek to come along and nail him.

I think he is OK. He has now paired up 2 major G1 wins. Not that the division is super strong, but hes the front runner right now. It feels like any race a horse like Shack is in could collapse if they stretch him back out, so maybe Ron keeps finding ways to win. Rumor is Royal DeltA will be facing the boys again soon, if not soon JCGC.


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