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RockHardTen1985 11-12-2013 02:00 AM

National Champion
 
This would be the year for that playoff to start.
Ohio St started the year #2, has looked great and pretty much has no shot at all of playing in the championship game if Bama and FSU win out.
Just trying to start a discussion on this. Not saying I think Ohio St deserves to play for the title. They have beat nothing at all and looked pretty average until about 3 weeks ago.
As for Florida St, and I did not look at the standings but the only team that can really even challenge them would be Virginia Tech in the ACC title game, but Im not sure if thats going to happen after Va Techs horrible HORRIBLE LOSS TO DUKE 2.5 weeks ago. They at least play great D and have a QB who at times is great. It would be a test at least.
Bama is Bama, but this is the year I cant see them getting a pass if they get beat. I think they have to win out as Ohio St, Florida St and Standford are all very likely to win out

Clip-Clop 11-13-2013 10:04 AM

The one loss Bama team (assuming the loss is at Auburn) still should get in ahead of an undefeated Ohio State. The other 1 loss teams should not be in the conversation really.

RockHardTen1985 11-13-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 953851)
The one loss Bama team (assuming the loss is at Auburn) still should get in ahead of an undefeated Ohio State. The other 1 loss teams should not be in the conversation really.

they are not losing the Auburn game so I guess it's a moot point. maybe South Carolina could get them if they play a perfect game and make it to the SEC title game

RockHardTen1985 11-13-2013 11:44 AM

for what it's worth I think Florida State is going to win the national championship

Danzig 11-13-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 953690)
This would be the year for that playoff to start.
Ohio St started the year #2, has looked great and pretty much has no shot at all of playing in the championship game if Bama and FSU win out.
Just trying to start a discussion on this. Not saying I think Ohio St deserves to play for the title. They have beat nothing at all and looked pretty average until about 3 weeks ago.
As for Florida St, and I did not look at the standings but the only team that can really even challenge them would be Virginia Tech in the ACC title game, but Im not sure if thats going to happen after Va Techs horrible HORRIBLE LOSS TO DUKE 2.5 weeks ago. They at least play great D and have a QB who at times is great. It would be a test at least.
Bama is Bama, but this is the year I cant see them getting a pass if they get beat. I think they have to win out as Ohio St, Florida St and Standford are all very likely to win out

stanford has a loss, why would bama have to win out to stay ahead of them?

Clip-Clop 11-15-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 953854)
they are not losing the Auburn game so I guess it's a moot point. maybe South Carolina could get them if they play a perfect game and make it to the SEC title game

They will be playing an excellent Missouri team for the SEC title.

Danzig 11-15-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 954130)
They will be playing an excellent Missouri team for the SEC title.

they've been a nice surprise, that's for sure. they certainly have shown that they are a deserving sec member.

Clip-Clop 11-15-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 954131)
they've been a nice surprise, that's for sure. they certainly have shown that they are a deserving sec member.

Minus the injury bug they are fighting for the 2 spot right now.

Patrick333 12-01-2013 09:38 AM

Great win by Auburn. Alabama's kicking game sure came back to bite them again.

It certainly wasn't one a Nick Saban's finest games. But that happens even to the best of them.

herkhorse 12-01-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 953854)
they are not losing the Auburn game so I guess it's a moot point.

you have quite the knack

MaTH716 12-01-2013 10:20 AM

All I could think of after the Auburn play happened was Jack Buck's famous line after the Gibson HR, "I don't believe what I just saw".
I honestly believe that this play will go on to that immortal list of great plays that you will never forget about.

keithting 12-01-2013 10:30 AM

If Alabama tries a last second 57-yd field goal, why did Nick Saban not use his "secret-weapon" earlier in the 4th quarter when 4th and 1 (much shorter attempt)?

Also, if you try a 57-yd FG with :01, have someone on your squad with speed to try to run down the fielded kick.

Questionable coaching decisions down the stretch IMO......

BigBlue 12-01-2013 12:32 PM

An unbelievable season - one for the ages.

Danzig 12-01-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick333 (Post 955701)
Great win by Auburn. Alabama's kicking game sure came back to bite them again.

It certainly wasn't one a Nick Saban's finest games. But that happens even to the best of them.

i thoroughly enjoyed that game. that run back will stick in his craw for a long time to come. reading that they never actually had someone run one back in practice was simply amazing-reminded me of reading that the french (back in the day with muzzleloaders) practiced loading without actually using live ammo-and then wondered why the brits (who did practice with live rounds) always beat them.

conference games yet to be played; will be interesting to see how it shakes out. too bad michigan couldn't beat osu, who i can't stand.

congrats to duke, with their first ever 10 win season. too bad they'll cap it off by getting crushed by fsu (oh, i hope duke can surprise them!!).

Danzig 12-01-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by keithting (Post 955709)
If Alabama tries a last second 57-yd field goal, why did Nick Saban not use his "secret-weapon" earlier in the 4th quarter when 4th and 1 (much shorter attempt)?

Also, if you try a 57-yd FG with :01, have someone on your squad with speed to try to run down the fielded kick.

Questionable coaching decisions down the stretch IMO......

he figured what they heck. oops. i doubt he ever thought for a moment that what happened would happen.
ah, hubris

ddthetide 12-01-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by keithting (Post 955709)
If Alabama tries a last second 57-yd field goal, why did Nick Saban not use his "secret-weapon" earlier in the 4th quarter when 4th and 1 (much shorter attempt)?

Also, if you try a 57-yd FG with :01, have someone on your squad with speed to try to run down the fielded kick.

Questionable coaching decisions down the stretch IMO......

BAMA beat BAMA, it's that simple. it should not have come down to a kick.:zz:

Danzig 12-01-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide (Post 955765)
BAMA beat BAMA, it's that simple. it should not have come down to a kick.:zz:

it didn't come down just to a kick. that was just one of many things that had the game end as it did. bama didn't beat bama, to say so marginalizes all that auburn did-and they played a good game also.

RockHardTen1985 12-01-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 955766)
it didn't come down just to a kick. that was just one of many things that had the game end as it did. bama didn't beat bama, to say so marginalizes all that auburn did-and they played a good game also.

Bama beat Bama. Its actually pretty clear. This about as big a fluke as you will ever see. Now with that said Auburn is VERY GOOD. If this were next year assuming all Ohio St, Florida St and Auburn win next week the 4 way playoff would be those 3 and Bama. And it would be great.

Danzig 12-01-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 955772)
Bama beat Bama. Its actually pretty clear. This about as big a fluke as you will ever see. Now with that said Auburn is VERY GOOD. If this were next year assuming all Ohio St, Florida St and Auburn win next week the 4 way playoff would be those 3 and Bama. And it would be great.

yeah, a fluke play after auburn had tied bama. i guess the 28 points aub scored was all a fluke? them keeping bama to 28, that was a fluke? auburn forced alabama to attempt a fg from that far away...they didn't get closer before the kick, i guess that was a fluke as well?

i thought it was a great game with good play from both sides, and like all evenly matched teams, it comes down to someone making a mistake and the other team being able to cash in on it. but auburn winning was no fluke, and again, you're ignoring auburns great game play that lead to the tied score at the end-and saban figuring what the hell before ot.
i bet he's wishing now they hadn't put one second back on the clock at the end.

Clip-Clop 12-03-2013 01:04 PM

Mizzou wins in Atlanta and still gets screwed out of their shot at the title. A simple prediction, though OSU is no cinch this weekend.

Mike A 12-03-2013 01:23 PM

the Las Vegas Hotel Superbook reported there are 14 tickets alive to Auburn for winning the national championship at 1000-1, we will know this weekend if Auburn gets in the game.
A Sparty win, and Auburn gets past Mizzou doesn't seem to far fetched

Crown@club 12-03-2013 01:39 PM

1000-1 sure didn't seem enough after having zero conference wins last year.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-04-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 953855)
for what it's worth I think Florida State is going to win the national championship

f -me..

ateamstupid 12-04-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 956021)
f -me..

*waits for Winston to get arrested*

Clip-Clop 12-04-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 956065)
*waits for Winston to get arrested*

:tro:

Danzig 12-05-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 956065)
*waits for Winston to get arrested*

no charges

Clip-Clop 12-05-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956196)
no charges

So based on this Duke has an excellent chance.

Danzig 12-05-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 956200)
So based on this Duke has an excellent chance.

really?

Cannon Shell 12-05-2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956245)
really?

PG factor

jms62 09-18-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 998683)
I'll have no pity for the NFL general manager who thinks that Jameis Winston should be the face of its franchise.

I can't see him getting drafted. NFL seems to have had a Come to Jesus moment in the last 2 weeks.

Danzig 09-18-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 998683)
I'll have no pity for the NFL general manager who thinks that Jameis Winston should be the face of its franchise.

people wonder why the nfl has punks on teams...because these athletes start getting coddled in junior high. they do as they wish, and people turn a blind eye cause 'hey, he's a good football player'. people will give them chance after chance because they have talent, all the way up into the pro's.
this isn't an nfl problem, or a college problem, it's a black mark on our society as a whole.

RockHardTen1985 09-18-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 998688)
I can't see him getting drafted. NFL seems to have had a Come to Jesus moment in the last 2 weeks.

Cant see him getting drafted? He would be a top 10 pick this year. He already said he will return to FSU. He has a chance to go #1 depending on who is drafting there. He does need to grow up though.

Pants II 09-18-2014 11:00 AM

He's slightly brighter than Vince Young (who was a much better player in college than Rapeis)

Really the kid should check his privilege and kiss the asses of the defensive starters.

RockHardTen1985 09-18-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 998694)
He's slightly brighter than Vince Young (who was a much better player in college than Rapeis)

Really the kid should check his privilege and kiss the asses of the defensive starters.

He seems much brighter then Young. Thats just based on listening to him speak/apologize. Not that being brighter then Young is saying a lot.

jms62 09-18-2014 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 998691)
Cant see him getting drafted? He would be a top 10 pick this year. He already said he will return to FSU. He has a chance to go #1 depending on who is drafting there. He does need to grow up though.

Always the contrarian saying something outrageous. Hundreds of Millions in advertising and advertisers now bowing to media pressure. The World as the NFL knows it has changed in the last 2 weeks. There is no way humanely possible he is the first pick of the draft. The guy is Toxic to sponsors of the NFL.

Danzig 09-18-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 998698)
I'm not thinking about the "Come to Jesus" notion or sponsors here.

This guy is a dumpster fire, and your quarterback cannot be a dumpster fire. Those guys do not last in the NFL.

JaMarcus Russell (e.g.) and Winston will be in the same paragraph someday.

:tro:

no point in drafting someone who will cause a ton of problems for the team. and his track record would definitely make one worry. talented qb's without the baggage out there.

RockHardTen1985 09-18-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 998696)
Always the contrarian saying something outrageous. Hundreds of Millions in advertising and advertisers now bowing to media pressure. The World as the NFL knows it has changed in the last 2 weeks. There is no way humanely possible he is the first pick of the draft. The guy is Toxic to sponsors of the NFL.

Jim what am I saying thats outrageous? He is the 6th overal rated prospect right now on CBS.com. Here is the link.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...jameis-winston

ESPN has him 4th overall. And this is right now.http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft


He needs to grow up, I agree. But the only thing outrageous is you saying you cant see a slam dunk top 10 pick not getting drafted at all.

declansharbor 09-18-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 998698)
I'm not thinking about the "Come to Jesus" notion or sponsors here.

This guy is a dumpster fire, and your quarterback cannot be a dumpster fire. Those guys do not last in the NFL.

JaMarcus Russell (e.g.) and Winston will be in the same paragraph someday.

I couldn't disagree more, unless the paragraph has to do with polar opposite production from the #1 pick in the draft.

He might be a bone head who makes questionable (at best) decisions off the field, but the kid can flat out play. He's not like Russell in the sense of having a few good games at the right time of year, thus sky rocketing up the draft boards. He would've been a top 10 pick in this year's draft and will be again in next year's too.

He would benefit tremendously from a large boot being inserted into his ass from someone in his camp. Those things tend not to happen though.

I wonder if this would even be a story at all if he weren't dragged into the rape scandal/money grab last year.

I, for one, am eager to see how well he does in the league.


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