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DonGuido 10-28-2014 09:29 PM

All ROI Wagers on the FINAL (w/ scratches) Top Ten Players go here . . .
 
See rules and what you can and can't do with your wagers in the BC Rules and Information thread . . .

1. Ruffian - ML 3/1 (Hot, hot, hot winner of yearly contest and best year ever for our Rocky Mountain High Fillie)
2. DonGuido - ML 3/1 (Thrives on Big Days, has won Gallivan Cup 3 out of last 5 years and may just sneak one by all again)
3. JolyB - ML 4/1 (The Professor, nuff said, not the best year for him but in my book he is the best handicapper here)
4. Real Quiet ML 9-2 (Sneaky good, scary good, can win when it counts and has won the Gallivan Cup before)
5. Cruzan 20024 ML 6-1 (New Comer but tough with obvious poise and tactics, maybe the wise guy pick)
6. ryonker ML 6/1 (Do not count him out, one of our consistently Best)
7. Criminal Type ML 8/1 (Unique, different, mindful approach to the game who can surprise us all when we least expect it)
8. Arletta ML 8/1 (One of the gang now, knows the score, has a knack and will stay to the end, be weary & may be the wise lady pick)
9. GotaDunQH 9/1 (Tough fillie that could easily get a piece if not win it all, has proved herself to hang toe to toe with anyone here)
10. AE - dapplehorse 12/1 (not a regular player but when she's in the gate all should beware)

Scratched:
5. Albright Emmylou ML 5/1 (Can hit on tricky days, knows the horses for sure, if she's in the gate don't ignore)
AE - Plenilune 10/1 (Not in the gate all the time but would love a chance to get in and show us all how to do it)

Arletta 10-28-2014 09:58 PM

$100 win ~ JolyB

RUFFIAN 10-29-2014 12:40 AM

Heart Over Logic
 
HEART TRUMPS LOGIC

$40 TO WIN ON REAL QUIET
IN APPRECIATION OF HIS WEEKLY DEDICATION
OF HUMOROUS + INSIGHTFUL SCORING COMMENTARIES :tro:

$60 TO WIN ON CRIMINAL TYPE, MY LONG TIME FRIEND :{>:

Arletta 10-29-2014 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN-333 (Post 1003777)
HEART TRUMPS LOGIC

$33 TO WIN ON REAL QUIET
IN APPRECIATION OF HIS WEEKLY DEDICATION
OF HUMOROUS + INSIGHTFUL SCORING COMMENTARIES :tro:

$33 TO WIN ON CRIMINAL TYPE, MY LONG TIME FRIEND :{>:

$33 TO WIN ON MY INNER FELINE
WHO HOPEFULLY ISN'T CAT-NAPPING ON BC DAY :eek:

SAVING A BUCK FOR CATNIP
:zz:

If you ever venture out of the TCP thread and talk like that that, the posters here will tear you up.

RUFFIAN 10-29-2014 11:01 AM

Stix & Stones
 
(Arletta: > If you ever venture out of the TCP thread and talk like that that, the posters here will tear you up)
====================

STIX & STONES MAY BREAK BONES...
CRUEL WORDS BY OTHERS ONLY HURT THEIR OWN KARMA

IF WE CANNOT FIND HUMOR & LAUGHTER IN LIFE
WHAT'S THE POINT? ;)

cruzan200246 10-29-2014 11:34 AM

$100 win on cruzan200246

casp0555 10-29-2014 11:52 AM

$50 win on ryonker
$50 win on Arletta

GLA!

Real Quiet 10-29-2014 12:38 PM

$50 Win Real Quiet
$50 Win Cruzan

RUFFIAN 10-29-2014 02:19 PM

Ct Player Roi
 
Criminal Type Picks for Galivan players

$75 win on Criminal Type
$25 win on Real Quiet

GotaDunQH 10-29-2014 04:58 PM

$100 WIN on AE...she's sneaky and she's DUE!

JolyB 10-29-2014 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1003813)
$50 win on ryonker
$50 place on Arletta

GLA!

Hey casp0555, I'm glad you have joined our group of refugees. Best of success with your picks, and I hope you will participate in our handicapping contests as well. I've noticed the way you structure your trifecta plays, so you should be very competitive in the ROI contest.

Arletta 10-29-2014 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1003813)
$50 win on ryonker
$50 place on Arletta

GLA!

Win only Billie :)

casp0555 10-29-2014 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 1003853)
Win only Billie :)

Then you better win Laura! :D

Arletta 10-29-2014 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1003859)
Then you better win Laura! :D

I hate to tell you this, but I always spit the bit on BC day :o

ryonker1 10-29-2014 08:41 PM

$25 win on
DonGuido
GotaDunQH
Plenilune
Dapplehorse

At the time of my wager, the will pays on these look much better than the other entries :$:

thanks
Ron

DonGuido 10-29-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1003813)
$50 win on ryonker
$50 win on Arletta

GLA!

Please join in on our next years handicapping contests, the first one starting two Saturdays after Breeders Cup. We always take one week off after the BC races. Or jump in and handicap the BC races with us and rest you metal.

Nice to see you hear and let's hope this fun but extremely challenging contest format rubs off on other too who would like to become better 'cappers at the real windows.

Welcome,
DG

DonGuido 10-29-2014 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryonker1 (Post 1003872)
$25 win on
DonGuido
GotaDunQH
Plenilune
Dapplehorse

At the time of my wager, the will pays on these look much better than the other entries :$:

thanks
Ron

Shrewd!!!

DonGuido 10-29-2014 08:50 PM

!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzan200246 (Post 1003812)
$100 win on cruzan200246

And you wanted the top three to take a powder . . . hmmmmmmm go for the GUSTO!!!:D

DonGuido 10-29-2014 09:28 PM

dapplehorse - $50 place and $50 show :D:$::tro:

cruzan200246 10-30-2014 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonGuido (Post 1003877)
And you wanted the top three to take a powder . . . hmmmmmmm go for the GUSTO!!!:D

:D:D:D:

GotaDunQH 10-30-2014 03:19 PM

Oh crap! I just saw that AE is a scratch!

In that case, I'll go $100 to win on Real Quiet. He was my pick last year, don't let me down this year RQ! LOL

JolyB 10-30-2014 03:36 PM

One of the reasons why I love the Breeders' Cup races is that it is possible to get excellent value on legitimate contenders who have been somewhat overlooked by the betting public.

In that spirit, I'm putting my bankroll on a few contenders who have lots of back class and are coming into the race in great form. Hopefully the late money won't destroy the price.

$40 Win: Don Guido

$40 Win: Dapplehorse

$20 Win: RYonker

Good luck to all.

Real Quiet 10-31-2014 07:04 AM

Plenilune's Picks

Gallivan: $25 W Real Quiet, $25 W Don Guido, $50 S Ryonker

Real Quiet 11-01-2014 09:40 AM

I was going to comment on what a bad group of handicappers we were until I discovered that the "sneaky fast" RYonker has a win bet on GotaDunQH <grin>.
Going into day two Ron is "looking good"!

JolyB 11-01-2014 10:40 AM

After reading RQ's post, I thought it might be interesting to post the post time odds on each of the players so you can calculate your will pays as we go into the second day of the BC races. Here they are:

1. Ruffian: ML 3-1 Off Odds: 99-1
2. DonGuido: ML 3-1 Off Odds: 9-1
3. JolyB: ML 4-1 Off Odds: 8-1
4. Real Quiet: ML 9-2 Off Odds: 5-2
5. Cruzan 200246: ML 6-1 Off Odds: 5-1
6. ryonker: ML 6-1 Off Odds: 12-1
7. Criminal Type: ML 8-1 Off Odds: 5-1
8. Arletta: ML 8-1 Off Odds: 17-1
9. GotaDunQH: ML 9-1 Off Odds: 36-1
10. dapplehorse: ML 12-1 Off Odds: 13-1

At this time, GotaDunQH is a fantastic value for that player astute enough to bet on her.

A couple of explanations. First, the odds have been set forth the way you would see them on a tote board, so some rounding and truncating has occurred. The actual payoffs will generally be a bit larger because this pool will have no takeout and no breakage.;). Second, the odds may seem very strange, but that can happen when you have a small pool. I hindsight, someone should have bet a couple of bucks on Ruff; they could have scooped the entire pool. Hey DonG - this is a fun game you created.:tro:

DonGuido 11-01-2014 12:21 PM

Lets see if GDQH can go out and set the pace and hold on to win . . . maybe? But closers usually seem to have an advantage. Thanks JB for using that IBM main frame computer brain of yours for setting the final odds. It takes team work to make something happen . . . always. And we have here to the max.

RUFFIAN 11-01-2014 12:27 PM

WOW
 
WOW

99--1 May Just Make This Filly Run Faster To Shock + Awe :p

JolyB 11-01-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN-333 (Post 1004490)
WOW

99--1 May Just Make This Filly Run Faster To Shock + Awe :p

I for one would not be shocked. I've been awed by your front running performance all year.:)

Arletta 11-02-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real Quiet (Post 1003821)
$50 Win Real Quiet
$50 Win Cruzan

:tro:

cruzan200246 11-02-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 1004919)
:tro:

Real Quiet knew something I didn't. :D

GotaDunQH 11-02-2014 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotaDunQH (Post 1003978)
Oh crap! I just saw that AE is a scratch!

In that case, I'll go $100 to win on Real Quiet. He was my pick last year, don't let me down this year RQ! LOL

I think this bears repeating....LOL!

Arletta 11-02-2014 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotaDunQH (Post 1004951)
I think this bears repeating....LOL!

Fine work

JolyB 11-02-2014 02:10 PM

And the results are:

In a dead heat for the superfecta position were Criminal Type and Plenilune, each with a total of $96.25. Ruffian garnered the show position with a total of $155.00. Fittingly, Real Quiet finished in the place position by betting on himself, but just not enough. He had a total of $192.50. But winning and going away was GotaDunQH, who got to the window after a late scratch and put it all down on RQ's nose. Despite the extra weight of all that loot, he still prevailed and won GotaDunQH a very nice payoff of $385.00.

Isn't is nice when you don't have any takeout or breakage? Have to go to DonGuido's more often.

Next time we do this, let's dispense with the place and show pools. We just don't have a large enough pool to make either of those worthwhile.

Real Quiet 11-02-2014 03:11 PM

Congrats GotaDunQH. You have a good eye for older broken down claiming horses who sometimes remember where the wire is <grin>.

DonGuido 11-02-2014 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JolyB (Post 1004961)
And the results are:

In a dead heat for the superfecta position were Criminal Type and Plenilune, each with a total of $96.25. Ruffian garnered the show position with a total of $155.00. Fittingly, Real Quiet finished in the place position by betting on himself, but just not enough. He had a total of $192.50. But winning and going away was GotaDunQH, who got to the window after a late scratch and put it all down on RQ's nose. Despite the extra weight of all that loot, he still prevailed and won GotaDunQH a very nice payoff of $385.00.

Isn't is nice when you don't have any takeout or breakage? Have to go to DonGuido's more often.

Next time we do this, let's dispense with the place and show pools. We just don't have a large enough pool to make either of those worthwhile.

10-4 JB . . . but ya may have to remind me . . . long time until next time. Thanks for the results.


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