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Kasept 09-26-2019 11:26 AM

BC ENTRIES: Turf, F&M Turf, Mile
 





Kasept 10-01-2019 05:25 PM

Bricks and Mortar on fence for Breeders' Cup Turf
Steve Andersen

Bricks and Mortar, unbeaten leader of the American turf division this year, may start in the $2 million Breeders’ Cup Mile instead of the $4 million Breeders’ Cup Turf, trainer Chad Brown said earlier this week. Both races are Nov. 2 at Santa Anita.

Brown added that whichever race the seven-time stakes winner runs in, he is unlikely to race before then. Bricks and Mortar won his fifth stakes of 2019 in the Arlington Million at 1 1/4 miles on Aug. 10 at Arlington Park.

senator L 10-09-2019 11:35 AM

It makes no sense to me why you would go for
less money in a much tougher race. Last time Bricks & Mortar raced
at a mile was a year ago. Lots of people love the cut back
angle but most BC winners are specialists at their respective distance

blackthroatedwind 10-09-2019 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senator L (Post 1131496)
It makes no sense to me why you would go for
less money in a much tougher race. Last time Bricks & Mortar raced
at a mile was a year ago. Lots of people love the cut back
angle but most BC winners are specialists at their respective distance

Feel free to share Bricks and Mortar's 12F races.

senator L 10-09-2019 12:30 PM

This is true, but I still think he has
a better chance and more money in the turf

blackthroatedwind 10-09-2019 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senator L (Post 1131499)
This is true, but I still think he has
a better chance and more money in the turf

That's a fair question. I think he has a better chance in the Mile but from an expected value, strictly earnings based, he may be better off in the 12F race.

It's a reasonable discussion.

Kasept 10-10-2019 05:41 AM

Enable's connections contemplating final career start in Turf
@DRFSteve Andersen ~ Oct 09, 2019

The role of favorite for the $4 million Breeders’ Cup Turf on Nov. 2 at Santa Anita may become clear in the next week.

Enable, the brilliant mare who was second in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe at Longchamp Racecourse in Paris on Sunday and won the 2018 BC Turf at Churchill Downs, may be sent to California for a final career start. Teddy Grimthorpe, racing manager for owner Khalid Abdullah’s Juddmonte Farms, wrote in an email Tuesday that a decision on Enable’s plans will be made “in the coming week or so.”

Enable would be a solid favorite if she runs in the BC Turf. A winner of 13 of 15 starts, Enable, 5, was 4-5 in the 2018 BC Turf. There is a contingent of highly rated European runners under consideration, including Waldgeist and Japan, who were first and fourth in the Arc de Triomphe; and Anthony Van Dyck, who won the English Derby in June.

cakes44 10-10-2019 07:17 AM

Kind of surprising with the BC in California. Seems they talk about her always wanting some give in the turf.

King Glorious 10-13-2019 04:37 PM

With Bricks and Mortar kind of stuck in the middle between the Mile and Turf, if he were yours, would you consider the Classic? This is such a weak Classic that it might be just the time for a non traditional type to take it.

blackthroatedwind 10-13-2019 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1131577)
With Bricks and Mortar kind of stuck in the middle between the Mile and Turf, if he were yours, would you consider the Classic? This is such a weak Classic that it might be just the time for a non traditional type to take it.

No.

goodcopy 10-14-2019 12:12 PM

Uni Brown #1
 
Bricks and Mortar, Sistercharlie,Uni
Of these three Uni is the one who will win the BC Turf, Defeats Sistercharlie while Bricks and Mortar wins the turf mile:tro:

Dahoss 10-14-2019 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodcopy (Post 1131598)
Bricks and Mortar, Sistercharlie,Uni
Of these three Uni is the one who will win the BC Turf, Defeats Sistercharlie while Bricks and Mortar wins the turf mile:tro:

No way Uni runs in the F & M Turf. She’s a miler

goodcopy 10-14-2019 04:29 PM

What Then?
 
Does Chad Brown run for money or titles or eclipse:confused:?

parsixfarms 10-14-2019 06:21 PM

Where will the starting gate be located for the Turf and Filly and Mare Turf? Are they still coming down the hill for these races?

goodcopy 10-14-2019 07:28 PM

i read no hill

cakes44 10-14-2019 08:16 PM

Hard to tell where Catholic Boy should run...

goodcopy 10-14-2019 08:37 PM

Parx for all it matters:)

Dahoss 10-15-2019 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodcopy (Post 1131614)
Does Chad Brown run for money or titles or eclipse:confused:?

You don’t win like he does by placing your horses in the wrong spots. He runs to win races. There are 3 turf races.

Uni is a miler. She belongs in the mile. Sistercharlie, as good as she is would get drowned in the Turf. She belongs in the F & M Turf.

Kitan 10-16-2019 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1131509)
Enable's connections contemplating final career start in Turf
@DRFSteve Andersen ~ Oct 09, 2019

The role of favorite for the $4 million Breeders’ Cup Turf on Nov. 2 at Santa Anita may become clear in the next week.

Enable, the brilliant mare who was second in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe at Longchamp Racecourse in Paris on Sunday and won the 2018 BC Turf at Churchill Downs, may be sent to California for a final career start. Teddy Grimthorpe, racing manager for owner Khalid Abdullah’s Juddmonte Farms, wrote in an email Tuesday that a decision on Enable’s plans will be made “in the coming week or so.”

Enable would be a solid favorite if she runs in the BC Turf. A winner of 13 of 15 starts, Enable, 5, was 4-5 in the 2018 BC Turf. There is a contingent of highly rated European runners under consideration, including Waldgeist and Japan, who were first and fourth in the Arc de Triomphe; and Anthony Van Dyck, who won the English Derby in June.

Out of BC. Stays in training next year.

Kasept 10-18-2019 10:10 AM

Grening reports Dierdre highly unlikely to come for anything..

casp0555 10-18-2019 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1131629)
Hard to tell where Catholic Boy should run...

it most likely will be on grass...on a field in Kentucky

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...om_racing_123#

Kasept 10-19-2019 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 1131622)
Where will the starting gate be located for the Turf and Filly and Mare Turf? Are they still coming down the hill for these races?

YES




Kasept 10-21-2019 04:39 PM

Zulu Alpha a late entrant to Turf..

blackthroatedwind 10-21-2019 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1131788)
Zulu Alpha a late entrant to Turf..

There's big news.

Kasept 10-22-2019 10:25 AM

Add Bandua to the Turf too..

Kasept 10-22-2019 05:05 PM

BALLYDOYLE: Aidan O'Brien says Magical entered in Turf and F&M Turf and likely for the F&M; Fleeting will run in the F&M Turf..

Kasept 10-26-2019 01:13 PM

Godolphin's LINE OF DUTY (Mile) a fatality this morning training at Appleby's yard..

Kasept 10-28-2019 10:45 AM

@RacingPost BREAKING: Magical will not travel to the Breeders' Cup due to a temperature and has been retired with immediate effect. Full story to follow at http://racingpost.com

Kasept 10-29-2019 06:18 AM






knickslions2 10-30-2019 03:21 PM

I’m loving Vasilika to upset sister Charlie. Horse looks ready to roll, distance should be perfect and give me Prat on this course.

Alabama Stakes 10-30-2019 03:45 PM

I know she won last year going 10 furlongs, but to me it’s a stretch right now for her to win going this far. But then I think Washington will definitely win the World Series.

casp0555 10-30-2019 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1131978)
I’m loving Vasilika to upset sister Charlie. Horse looks ready to roll, distance should be perfect and give me Prat on this course.

:tro::$:

knickslions2 10-31-2019 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1131983)
:tro::$:

Hey Billy United in the Turf is another one Prat is on that could be sneaky here. Its a tough race.

Kasept 10-31-2019 05:18 PM

F&M TURF: Thais forced out as vet SCR..
 
Thais scratched from BC Filly and Mare Turf by CHRB's Dr. Rick Arthur
By Dave Grening

Thais, who was entered in Saturday’s $2 million Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Turf at Santa Anita to act as a pacemaker for probable favorite Sistercharlie, was scratched on Thursday based on the recommendation of Dr. Rick Arthur, the equine medical director for the California Horse Racing Board.

“She was placed on the vet’s list as unsound,” Arthur told Daily Racing Form Thursday, declining to get into specifics of the unsound area.

Thais is trained by Chad Brown and owned by Peter Brant. Thais has run in three consecutive Grade 1 stakes to ensure there would be pace for Sistercharlie who won all three of those races _ the Diana, Beverly D and Flower Bowl. As recently as Saturday, Thais worked five furlongs in 1:00.80 in company with Sistercharlie at Belmont Park before both mares shipped to Southern California on Monday.

“She was taken out of the race by the chief veterinarian here,” Brown said. “I disagree with it, this filly’s been extremely sound in all of her works, races and daily training. Unfortunately, it’s not our call so we’re just going to move on into the race and hopefully Sistercharlie can still work out a good trip.”

Brown noted that Thais was in last year’s Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Turf, but broke poorly and never got to the lead, but Sistercharlie still won.

“We had her in there for a reason so obviously we felt it was in Sistercharlie’s benefit to have Thais in the race,” Brown said. “So in that regard it makes it more challenging. That said, Thais was in the race last year, missed the break and was never better than fifth I don’t think whole way, did no work, and [Sistercharlie] was able to win.”

The scratch of Thais reduces the Filly and Mare Turf field to 11. Mirth, winner of the Grade 1 Rodeo Drive on the front end here on Sept. 28, could play out as the primary speed.


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