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MLC 05-05-2007 06:44 PM

Hard Spun in the Stretch
 
Did he stumble or just shift to the outside of Street Sense?

randallscott35 05-05-2007 06:46 PM

Maybe, but he was coming again at the end. Or Borel just stopped riding. Either way, his was the most impressive race....And we can put that 57 nonsense to rest. This is a good horse.

sumitas 05-05-2007 06:47 PM

coming off poly he did ok

MLC 05-05-2007 06:48 PM

Do you think that "nonsense" could have compromised his chance to at least give Street Sense a battle for the lead?

randallscott35 05-05-2007 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MLC
Do you think that "nonsense" could have compromised his chance to at least give Street Sense a battle for the lead?

Nope, Street Sense got a great ride and was best today. No excuse for Hard Spun.

pmayjr 05-05-2007 06:50 PM

Agreed, Hard Spun ran HUGE today.

In 2 weeks there will be 1/16th less of a mile, and if S.S. has even a mnior traffic issue it might be enough to get Hard Spun home 1st. The other question, is how much pace will there be in the Preakness. Maybe some if Slew's Tizzy shows up?

Antitrust32 05-05-2007 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35
Maybe, but he was coming again at the end. Or Borel just stopped riding. Either way, his was the most impressive race....And we can put that 57 nonsense to rest. This is a good horse.


I thought HS was coming back at the end the when I saw it live. When the showed the overhead view (best view ever btw), it did not look like he was coming back at him... and borel started celebrating like 30 yards before the wire! street sense was like, uh buddy we still have a little bit to go!

What a great race by both horses, street sense is the head of his class though.

Pedigree Ann 05-05-2007 06:53 PM

If Hard Spun had had a race within the last couple of weeks before the Derby, the 57+ work would have been trouble. But with a layoff of 6 weeks, he needed some serious exercise to get him fit for the Derby. I was pleased to see it, in fact, when everyone else was saying it was a negative.

I still remember when trainers gave their horses a 3f blowout the day before a race to set them up. I think Larry Jones does, too.

The Bid 05-05-2007 06:53 PM

I think he was tiring and switched leads

whorstman 05-05-2007 08:27 PM

Hard Spun ran his a$$ off today, I give him props.

MisterB 05-05-2007 08:31 PM

Great run, better than I gave him prior.

the_fat_man 05-05-2007 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
I think he was tiring and switched leads


Actually, SS changed back to lefty very late stretch. HS was righty the entire length of the stretch. (Assuming you're referring to the latter and not the former, of course.)

pba1817 05-06-2007 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MLC
Did he stumble or just shift to the outside of Street Sense?

Hard Spun runs strange. I commented to my friend about this when he had a daylight lead on the back stretch. It appears that with every 3rd or 4th stride he severely dips his head for whatever reason, I actually thought he was taking bad steps or having some physical issues at one point.. Obviously thats just his style because he ran very well.

Street Sense was dead tired coming to the wire, switched back to left lead and was slowing down noticeably... He won due to a technically great ride, some luck having the rail being fast(again) and wide open(again!!). I do not think he has a chance to win either of the following TC races.

I'm not here to bang on Street Sense, I had decent money on his nose here, but I think he is a classic horse for the course...

The Bid 05-06-2007 09:27 AM

Im talking about Hardspuns Bobble, or heavy change right when SS passed him. Its hard to see because he was tiring and getting passed to the outside.

31lengths 05-06-2007 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I thought HS was coming back at the end the when I saw it live. When the showed the overhead view (best view ever btw), it did not look like he was coming back at him... and borel started celebrating like 30 yards before the wire! street sense was like, uh buddy we still have a little bit to go!

What a great race by both horses, street sense is the head of his class though.

anyone know where we can find that overhead ?

Danzig 05-06-2007 10:03 AM

i saw him bobble a bit, at first i thought maybe street sense came over too quickly, but the overhead showed he had room.
chart says spun bobbled at the eighth. but then he was trying to come on again. good horse! lost to a good horse who got a dream trip. looking forward very much to a rematch.

MLC 05-06-2007 10:04 AM

Well, I hope Hard Spun came out of the race ok. He really did run better than anticipated.

The Bid 05-06-2007 10:05 AM

I think he switched off during that bobble, it was a very akward, not a natural movement and I dont think it was caused by SS.

Danzig 05-06-2007 10:07 AM

no, he ran like some of us anticipated!! lol

i think a lot of people who were considering him jumped off after mondays work. man, the more i think about it, the more i like how he looked. ah, if the racing gods hadn't smiled so much on street sense.....

can't take anything away from street sense tho. those two ran beautifully. it's one of those races where it's a shame someone had to lose.


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