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Monarchos1 04-19-2008 09:02 AM

War Pass out with fracture
 
Haven't seen this online yet, but War Pass is off the Derby trail with a fracture, presumably suffered in the Wood Memorial.

hectic_1978 04-19-2008 09:21 AM

Looks like the courier journal has it up.

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/...04/1002/SPORTS

Pedigree Ann 04-19-2008 09:25 AM

Surprise, surprise.

TheSpyder 04-19-2008 09:27 AM

Steve was just saying the other day how few have dropped out compared to most years......advantage Big Brown with one pace pressure gone (hey that's my opinion).

Spyder

blackthroatedwind 04-19-2008 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Surprise, surprise.

Extending your redboarding buffoonery to injuries now?

That's precious.

Coach Pants 04-19-2008 09:53 AM

:mad:

whodey17 04-19-2008 10:16 AM

This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

Scav 04-19-2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

And the hard on continues

NTamm1215 04-19-2008 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

What a day for the naysayers?

At what point would you have made a decision differently from what Zito did? It's clear your distaste for Zito blinds you to reality, but where did he make a mistake? The horse's 2YO campaign was perfectly laid out. He brought him back in an easy spot. He ran poorly at Tampa but came out of it OK, then he did what any logical trainer would have, he ran him in the Wood Memorial.

It's perfectly OK to have preferences for some trainer over others and while I'm pissing in the wind even replying to you, why don't you take the blinkers off for a second and realize that injuries happen to horses, even to ones that are being handled with care.

NT

CSC 04-19-2008 10:30 AM

I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, but this is the third freakishly fast Zito trained horse that has its problems.

Bellamy Road, Commentator and now War Pass.

CSC 04-19-2008 10:36 AM

Since I am relatively new here, why does this seemed to have touched a nerve here? It seems to me most of Trainer's mentioned here have had some sort of criticism aimed at them, but none of this depth of reaction...

Payson Dave 04-19-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

The term IMBECILE comes to mind here......and I'm not talking about Mr Zito.

stonegossard 04-19-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

So where should he run him you f#ckin jagoff? The Swale followed by The Bay Shore? Ran him into the ground? He ran 3 races this year, one being basically a workout.

Gotta love public chat boards where even the biggest idiots have their say.

slotdirt 04-19-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Since I am relatively new here, why does this seemed to have touched a nerve here? It seems to me most of Trainer's mentioned here have had some sort of criticism aimed at them, but none of this depth of reaction...

whodey, Eurobounce, whatever you want to call him, is a fervent Zito basher and takes every opportunity to make sure everyone knows this.

That being said, THIS makes things interesting two weeks from today...

Benevolus 04-19-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Steve was just saying the other day how few have dropped out compared to most years......advantage Big Brown with one pace pressure gone (hey that's my opinion).

Spyder

Pretty hard to see how it favors Big Brown. If he doesn't rate he doesn't win. Doesn't matter how many horses are on the lead, all you know is you don't want to be there. With Bob Black Jack (109 beyer) in there along with Recapturetheglory (102 beyer) you have two very fast horses that want the lead, both of which have proven they are fast animals but neither looks like they can take it 10f with a quick pace. Horses like Big Brown and Gayego must sit off the pace no matter who is in there or they will be cooked. Churchill Downs is not the front running biased Gulfstream.

The bad thing about War Pass not running is he was going to take a ton of money for a horse that had absolutely zero chance of winning.

geof 04-19-2008 11:09 AM

War Pass Breakdown
 
The Wood was run 2 races after my horse broke down. I think the track had something to do with it. It was deep and the front end was colapsing. They cacelled racing the day before and were working overtime to get it ready for Saturday.........

Thunder Gulch 04-19-2008 11:14 AM

I suspect we've seen the last of War Pass on the track. With races getting longer this year and the 2yo trophy at home, it seems rather unlikely they would even try to get him back.

GBBob 04-19-2008 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
I suspect we've seen the last of War Pass on the track. With races getting longer this year and the 2yo trophy at home, it seems rather unlikely they would even try to get him back.

agreed..the article above basically said as much

And this horse’s injury isn’t nearly as several as Brass Hat. So they can come back.

Whether or not he could or would, I don’t know. I kind of doubt very seriously if they will because he’s got such tremendous value as a stallion.


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