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Kasept 05-06-2008 10:12 AM

PREAKNESS: Field drops to 12 with Behind demuring
 
1 Macho Again
2 Tres Borrachos
3 Ichabad Crane
4 Yankee Bravo
5 SCR
6 Racecar Rhapsody
7 Big Brown
8 Kentucky Bear
9 Stevil
10 Riley Tucker
11 Giant Moon
12 Gayego
13 Hey Byrn

Alan07 05-06-2008 10:31 AM

It looks like some big name jocks are going to miss out on the Preakness.

blackthroatedwind 05-06-2008 10:44 AM

It feels like after having beaten up all the kids at the High School, Big Brown is now trudging over to the Elementary School to dust them up as well.

Unless, of course, Harlem Rocker runs.

Alan07 05-06-2008 10:46 AM

Anything can happen, and I will NOT be betting Big Brown

the_fat_man 05-06-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07
Anything can happen, and I will NOT be betting Big Brown

With this kind of attitude, and HR running, we might just have another :rolleyes: :rolleyes: moment in the Preakness.

ddthetide 05-06-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan07
Anything can happen, and I will NOT be betting Big Brown

i tried that in the derby and got my head busted for it.:o

tiggerv 05-06-2008 10:57 AM

Harlem Rocker needs to run.

ArlJim78 05-06-2008 11:11 AM

if Harlem Rocker does not run, anybody want to guess the win odds for BB?
i'm guessing 1 to 5 maximum.

now that I see El Gato Malo in the field, I'll say 2-5.

Scav 05-06-2008 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
if Harlem Rocker does not run, anybody want to guess the win odds for BB?
i'm guessing 1 to 5 maximum.

Your being generous

blackthroatedwind 05-06-2008 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
if Harlem Rocker does not run, anybody want to guess the win odds for BB?
i'm guessing 1 to 5 maximum.

now that I see El Gato Malo in the field, I'll say 2-5.


You figure El Gato Malo is more likely than the others to roll in front of him?

ateamstupid 05-06-2008 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
if Harlem Rocker does not run, anybody want to guess the win odds for BB?
i'm guessing 1 to 5 maximum.

now that I see El Gato Malo in the field, I'll say 2-5.

Somewhere between 1-5 and 2-5. Probably like .30-1 or so.

ArlJim78 05-06-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You figure El Gato Malo is more likely than the others to roll in front of him?

well, on second thought, remembering how Colonel John faired in the derby, not really.

blackthroatedwind 05-06-2008 11:25 AM

Honestly, if Harlem Rocker doesn't run, this race is an absurd mismatch. I seriously can't remember as soft a bunch facing a Derby winner. Slew had a potential rival in Cormorant, Pleasant Colony had to deal with Bold Ego's speed, hell Golden Act ( second to Spectacular Bid ) was a monster relative to these. Barbaro had the potential talent of Sweetnorthernsaint ( forgetting about Bernardini ) and even Brother Derek....all of whom would be odds on against this bunch.

I guess if you line up numbers 21 through 30 of this year's KY Derby probables you don't rate to get a very swift bunch.

Payson Dave 05-06-2008 11:37 AM

Dutrow certainly toned down his rhetoric....he seems inordinately concerned with running BB back off 2 weeks rest...he (or perhaps Michelle) knows the horse better than anyone...I'd love to know how his feet are doing and whether the Churchill surface created any new/other issues.

CSC 05-06-2008 11:37 AM

Add me to the list of people who thinks highly of Harlem Rocker, according to Jennifer Morrison's blog Pletcher is rethinking the Plate Trial for the Preakness. It would add some much needed interest to otherwise a dull race as it stands at the moment.

HARLEM ROCKER is now rumoured to be more likely for the Preakness than the PLATE TRIAL.
Trainer Todd Pletcher had hinted to WOODBINE ENTERTAINMENT that the colt would come for the Plate Trial and then the Plate but with a 106 Beyer Figure last time and an undefeated record - he might match up well with BIG BROWN.

justindew 05-06-2008 11:43 AM

I remember the last time Kent rode the Derby winner in the Preakness and faced a fresh horse owned by Stronach.

philcski 05-06-2008 11:46 AM

I think Ichabad Crane will also be running, Steve- at least that's what I've read.

blackthroatedwind 05-06-2008 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I think Ichabad Crane will also be running, Steve- at least that's what I've read.


Well, if Big Truck ( another NY Bred ) was 28:1 in the Derby, Icabad should be even money.

Just remember, I touted him in the Albany first.

philcski 05-06-2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Well, if Big Truck ( another NY Bred ) was 28:1 in the Derby, Icabad should be even money.

Just remember, I touted him in the Albany first.

I like Big Truck... and I have NO idea who would have bet him at 28-1 in the Derby. Seriously.

justindew 05-06-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I like Big Truck... and I have NO idea who would have bet him at 28-1 in the Derby. Seriously.

It's the Giacomo factor. Casual fans saw 50-1 in the morning line, and decided they were betting on him before they got to the track.

Also, the name is funny. Like with Imawidlandcrazyguy last year.


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