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-BT- 08-29-2008 01:59 PM

Where have all the "Good" jocks gone?
 
http://www.drf.com/news/article/97756.html

i find it hard to believe Zayat is being this childish about this. The kid said he didn't want to ride, take him to court if you have tofind a new jock....... why would you want someone on your horse who obviously doesn't want to be there in the first place?

someone get Tony Black's number for them Zayat boys

-bt-

Handicappy 08-29-2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT-
http://www.drf.com/news/article/97756.html

i find it hard to believe Zayat is being this childish about this. The kid said he didn't want to ride, take him to court if you have tofind a new jock....... why would you want someone on your horse who obviously doesn't want to be there in the first place?

someone get Tony Black's number for them Zayat boys

-bt-

I just wrote the exact same thing in Byk's thread on the Derby. He's got a shot to win this in his second year at toga. Great kid who works very hard all the time. I hope he gets out of this. Terry Metcalf needs to work some magic on this.

SOREHOOF 08-30-2008 07:45 AM

If Sonbol doesn't see the significance of a riding title at Saratoga, he might be in the wrong sport.

rkinnin 08-31-2008 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT-
http://www.drf.com/news/article/97756.html

i find it hard to believe Zayat is being this childish about this. The kid said he didn't want to ride, take him to court if you have tofind a new jock....... why would you want someone on your horse who obviously doesn't want to be there in the first place?

someone get Tony Black's number for them Zayat boys

-bt-

Without reading the posted article, the thread title does bring up a very good question. For instance....

1/ what happened to F. Jara?
2/ I thought that Mig was coming to Saratoga and then was going to stay here? Yet I saw him riding back out in CA this weekend?
3/ what happened to C. Borel?
4/ why did Sutherland stay in Woodbine this summer?

Steve, perhaps we can start a thread entitled, "Jocks - MIA?" or "Jockey News".

Coach Pants 08-31-2008 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkinnin
Without reading the posted article, the thread title does bring up a very good question. For instance....

1/ what happened to F. Jara?
2/ I thought that Mig was coming to Saratoga and then was going to stay here? Yet I saw him riding back out in CA this weekend?
3/ what happened to C. Borel?
4/ why did Sutherland stay in Woodbine this summer?

Steve, perhaps we can start a thread entitled, "Jocks - MIA?" or "Jockey News".

1. Dunno
2. Dunno
3. Vacation/riding at Ellis a few days
4. Money. She's not doing half bad.

hockey2315 08-31-2008 11:57 PM

1. Back in Panama

Zaf 09-01-2008 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
4. Money. She's not doing half bad.

Cha Ching :

Chantal Sutherland 440 60 56 65 $3,310,311 :eek:

ELA 09-01-2008 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkinnin
Without reading the posted article, the thread title does bring up a very good question. For instance....

1/ what happened to F. Jara?
2/ I thought that Mig was coming to Saratoga and then was going to stay here? Yet I saw him riding back out in CA this weekend?
3/ what happened to C. Borel?
4/ why did Sutherland stay in Woodbine this summer?

Steve, perhaps we can start a thread entitled, "Jocks - MIA?" or "Jockey News".

1) Jara is back home in Panama
2) Migliore went to CA for a few stakes rides, is scheduled to be at Philly for the PA Derby card, and then Belmont
3) Usual summer plans (except his Spa meet) -- light schedule, vacation, etc.
4) Business, money, home . . . I don't know.

Eric

Zaf 09-01-2008 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELA
4) Business, money, home . . . I don't know.

Eric

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVaSB...eature=related

letswastemoney 09-01-2008 01:54 AM

I don't see how the riding title is THAT important. I'd go for the million dollar race. It's kind of strange. Garcia will give up 5 mounts in one day to ride Funny Cide in a $100,000 race, yet he won't give up mounts for a $1,000,000 race.

Still I agree that Garcia should have the freedom to do what he wants. If he wants the riding title, he should be freed of his commitment

ateamstupid 09-01-2008 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I don't see how the riding title is THAT important. I'd go for the million dollar race. It's kind of strange. Garcia will give up 5 mounts in one day to ride Funny Cide in a $100,000 race, yet he won't give up mounts for a $1,000,000 race.

Still I agree that Garcia should have the freedom to do what he wants. If he wants the riding title, he should be freed of his commitment

It's not like he was riding Smooth Air or another top contender in the race.. He was on Alaazo.. Not exactly a lock to bring home the $600,000.

With that said, it didn't speak well of Garcia or his agent that they would've taken the mount for $5,000. So the riding title is really important, but for $5,000, it's not THAT important.. Sheesh, either take the mount or don't, but don't try to swindle people out of cash.

ELA 09-01-2008 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I don't see how the riding title is THAT important. I'd go for the million dollar race. It's kind of strange. Garcia will give up 5 mounts in one day to ride Funny Cide in a $100,000 race, yet he won't give up mounts for a $1,000,000 race.

Still I agree that Garcia should have the freedom to do what he wants. If he wants the riding title, he should be freed of his commitment

It is that important for him and his agent. The Funny Cide race is at the completely opposite end of the spectrum. Two totally different times, motivations, connections, and more.

As far as the freedom aspect, that's not the way the business works. His agent gave the connections the call. Bottom line, they are getting spun. It happens everyday. Today it just happened to the connections who are playing hardball and it happened to Garcia and his agent on a bad day.

Eric

ELA 09-01-2008 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
It's not like he was riding Smooth Air or another top contender in the race.. He was on Alaazo.. Not exactly a lock to bring home the $600,000.

With that said, it didn't speak well of Garcia or his agent that they would've taken the mount for $5,000. So the riding title is really important, but for $5,000, it's not THAT important.. Sheesh, either take the mount or don't, but don't try to swindle people out of cash.

Excellent point(s).

Eric

eajinabi 09-01-2008 04:25 PM

Isnt Velasquez one shy of tieing Gracia right now?

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-01-2008 05:44 PM

not sure but he got 1 gift today for sure..jv

ateamstupid 09-01-2008 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
not sure but he got 1 gift today for sure..jv

So did Garcia, thanks to batshit crazy Cribnote.

my miss storm cat 09-01-2008 06:54 PM

I realize the name of this thread uses the word good but hey... where's Freddy?


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