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Sightseek 05-16-2009 08:56 PM

What races would you target for Rachel?
 
Do you run her back against fillies with a target on the Ladies' Classic?

Keep trying to beat the boys?

What races would you target if you owned Rachel Alexandra?

10 pnt move up 05-16-2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
Do you run her back against fillies with a target on the Ladies' Classic?

Keep trying to beat the boys?

What races would you target if you owned Rachel Alexandra?

Since the consensus seems to be she is the greatest since Ruffian there seems no need to mess around with a horse like Zenyatta, she should go straight to the older colts in the fall.

Bobby Fischer 05-16-2009 09:04 PM

without any super-talent males at this point, I think you keep her at a peak and try to win one more of the highly regarded male stakes like the Travers.

Breeders Cup is a ways away and it is on synthetic...

Lava 05-16-2009 09:06 PM

I would not go in the Belmont or any BC races. Maybe the Travers

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-16-2009 09:19 PM

I've give her a rest and then bring her back in the CCA Oaks before heading to Saratoga for the Alabama, keep her against her own kind for now.

King Glorious 05-16-2009 09:24 PM

I wouldn't even think about the Belmont.

Mother Goose, end of June
Whitney, end of July
Ruffian, early September
Beldame, end of September
BC Distaff

Odd, I know but here's my reasoning. I'd give her a little break now. She's run five races so far and today was a tough effort. No need to come back in the Belmont and no need to come back to face second tier males in the Dwyer. Having an easy prep in the Delaware Oaks would be perfect for her to springboard to her first try against older males. The Whitney is a top race and would showcase her at Saratoga. Why not the Travers? From what I saw today, 10f might be just the limit of what they can get from her and surely some of these egotistical male trainers would really compromise themselves to keep her from beating them again. Plus, she's already beaten the best of the boys and there's no need to prove it again. Beating older males would be a bigger feather in her cap. Now, other than Einstein, there just isn't much of anything in the older male division. Looks like the females will be the tougher bunch this year. I think that Life is Sweet may end up in NY this year and along with Music Note and Cocoa Beach and Seattle Smooth, she'd have more competition there than against the males. The end it by facing Zenyatta in the Distaff.

Delaware Oaks, Whitney, Ruffian, Beldame, BC Distaff or Classic, whichever one Zenyatta is in.

zippyneedsawin 05-16-2009 09:43 PM

I wouldn't target the Belmont next either..

I'd squeeze the Met Mile on May 25th in there first.. then try an Acorn-Belmont double on June 6th.. Same day? no biggie..
On to the Stephen Foster on June 13th...Mother Goose on June 27th.. give her a break until July 25th for the CCA Oaks... Whitney on August 8th... Alabama on August 22.

all that should set her up nicely for the Travers on August 29th..and Personal Ensign on August 30th.


I think she can handle it.

hurricanefrank 05-16-2009 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
Do you run her back against fillies with a target on the Ladies' Classic?

Keep trying to beat the boys?

What races would you target if you owned Rachel Alexandra?

I'd give her a well deserved rest. Then I'd target the Haskell.

eajinabi 05-16-2009 10:13 PM

I dont care where she goes next. I want her to have a match race with Zenyatta

zippyneedsawin 05-16-2009 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
I dont care where she goes next. I want her to have a match race with Zenyatta

I'd love to see it.. on the dirt.

Seattleallstar 05-16-2009 10:17 PM

I would target all the major races for her sex, all the way to BC Distaff. I wouldnt even think about running her against the males until next year. Just get the job done in her own sex and rack up the wins, awards, accolades. Cement that status, then bring her back next year to target the males, and who knows the Dubai World Cup could be in the cards. But as this year goes, keep her on track for HOY, because you already have that TC win over the boys in the books.

Also stay away from Zenyatta until the Distaff, which shouldnt be hard

hurricanefrank 05-16-2009 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
I dont care where she goes next. I want her to have a match race with Zenyatta

Rachel would beat her in a match race given her style of running vs Zenyatta's.

CSC 05-16-2009 10:37 PM

I'm not sure what race she will be in, but I do see a Curlin-Rachel Alexandra meeting in the barn when she is done with racing.

packerbacker7964 05-16-2009 10:42 PM

Yeah but they are from the same family. Jackson owns both of them wouldn't that be weird?;)

Danzig 05-16-2009 11:38 PM

rachel was the bomb today. so glad she won.

we just got back from a jr auxiliary fundraiser...i'm a bit off right now. :D got to watch the race before going to dinner, and i am thrilled. well, except for douchebag assman in the limelight, eff him.


way to go girl, you did great rachel. i'd take her to the travers.

picked up two dumped dogs tonite on the way home. hope their dumpers burn in whatever hell awaits dog dumpers. at least they go to bed tonite with full bellies.
one's a boy, one's a girl. if they elect to stay, one is rachel, the other is alexander. i go by a sign quite often that says 'ouachita river-pine island access'....every time i see it, i remember pine island. races like today erase that pain-i am taking my buzzed ass to bed now, this post has taken me forever to write.

way to to rachel, congrats to calvin...oh, and to that jackass jess jackson.



as for assman.....pfft.

Scav 05-17-2009 02:04 AM

I would target the Travers, as I have said, I don't think I have seen a filly even try it in my lifetime, but some of the NY guys could clarify that....

Rupert Pupkin 05-17-2009 03:37 AM

I agree with all of you. I would definitely skip the Belmont. She ran hard today. She deserves a little break. I'd give her a little break and have her ready for the summer.

Slewbopper 05-17-2009 05:40 AM

Mother Goose......6/27
Haskell................8/2
Travers..............8/29
Beldame.............10/1?

Slewbopper 05-17-2009 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I would target the Travers, as I have said, I don't think I have seen a filly even try it in my lifetime, but some of the NY guys could clarify that....

The last one I remember was Davona Dale in probably the stupidest move any trainer has ever made. John Vietch ran her in the Alabama a week before and finished second to It's In The Air. Then the idiot brought her back a week later for the Travers on the sloppiest track in the history of the Spa. Only General Assembly liked it, winning by 15 setting the track record which still stands today. Smarten was second and Private Account was third. Davona was 4th, at least 25 lengths back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ok1e0Yez_s

Holland Hacker 05-17-2009 06:21 AM

I would probably point towards keeping her with Fillies & Mares for the remainder of the year, but would like to see how she would take to the turf.

I would target these races (all grade 1) with that in mind:

Acorn 3 YO Fillies 9 furlongs 6/27

Coaching Club American Oaks 3 YO Fillies 10 furlongs 7/25

Alabama 3 YO Fillies 10 furlongs 8/22

Garden City BC 3 YO fillies 9 furlongs (Turf) 9/12

Beldame F & M # & Up 9 furlongs 10/3 or
Flower Bowl F & M 3 & Up 10 furlongs Turf 10/3

Breeders Cup either Distaff (I just refuse to call it the ladies classic) or F & M Turf.

I would then give her a well deserved freshening and bring her back for a 4 YO campaign.


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