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Kasept 08-07-2009 01:09 AM

8/9 (DMR): Clement Hirsch (G1); Best Pal (G2)
 
4TH (3:30) Best Pal S. (G2)

6 1/2 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Smiling Tiger Baze R A 121 L
2 Hurricane Ike Rosario J 119 L
3 Supraman Mernagh D 117 L
4 Lookin At Lucky Gomez G K 119 L
5 Classical Slew Baze M C 121 L
6 Make Music for Me Baze T C 117



8TH (5:30) Clement L. Hirsch S. (G1)

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Tidal Dance Valdivia J Jr 119 L
2 Patricia's Gem Espinoza V 119 L
3 Briecat Garcia M 119 L
4 Dawn After Dawn Quinonez A 119 L
5 Champagne Eyes Rosario J 119 L
6 Hot n' Dusty Solis A 119 L
7 Life Is Sweet Gomez G K 123 L
8 Anabaa's Creation (IRE) Baze T C 119 L
9 Lethal Heat Talamo J 119 L
10 Zenyatta Smith M E 123 L

RockHardTen1985 08-07-2009 01:10 AM

Do you sleep ?

The Indomitable DrugS 08-07-2009 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
8TH (5:30) Clement L. Hirsch S. (G1)

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Tidal Dance Valdivia J Jr 119 L
2 Patricia's Gem Espinoza V 119 L
3 Briecat Garcia M 119 L
4 Dawn After Dawn Quinonez A 119 L
5 Champagne Eyes Rosario J 119 L
6 Hot n' Dusty Solis A 119 L
7 Life Is Sweet Gomez G K 123 L
8 Anabaa's Creation (IRE) Baze T C 119 L
9 Lethal Heat Talamo J 119 L
10 Zenyatta Smith M E 123 L


Wow ... I thought the Clement Hirsch at Del Mar was a handicap.

When did they change it?

I can figure out why they changed it ... it's not exactly hard to figure out who they're trying to please.

letswastemoney 08-07-2009 02:22 AM

can Lethal Heat win this?

Kasept 08-07-2009 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Do you sleep ?

"Money never sleeps." --Gordon Gecko

Arletta 08-07-2009 06:53 AM

It's all in the journey and Steve is definitely living it up :)

10 pnt move up 08-07-2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Wow ... I thought the Clement Hirsch at Del Mar was a handicap.

When did they change it?

I can figure out why they changed it ... it's not exactly hard to figure out who they're trying to please.

They changed it before last year I believe, who were they trying to please?

King Glorious 08-07-2009 01:15 PM

I think it's the right move. Handicaps are worthless if they aren't going to be done right. What is the point of a handicap where the top weight in a grade one for older males is 119 pounds and on the same card, 2yo males will be running with 121? I don't put the blame on Frankel but it's guys like him that have caused this and racing secretaries around the country that are scared to give real weights because they don't want to lose their good horses to one of the thousands of other similar races that will be run somewhere that same day or within a week.

cakes44 08-07-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
can Lethal Heat win this?

Nope. If she or anybody else could, Zenyatta would be scratched.

RockHardTen1985 08-07-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
Nope. If she or anybody else could, Zenyatta would be scratched.

Patricia's Gem is ok. Im not sure she can win though.

Smooth Operator 08-10-2009 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
"Money never sleeps." --Gordon Gecko

No it doesn't :cool:

The Indomitable DrugS 08-10-2009 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
They changed it before last year I believe, who were they trying to please?

It was a handicap race last year.

cmorioles 08-10-2009 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
They changed it before last year I believe, who were they trying to please?

DrugS is right, it was a handicap last year. The motive was pretty apparent, no?

10 pnt move up 08-11-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
DrugS is right, it was a handicap last year. The motive was pretty apparent, no?

yes it seems so.

I am in the boat that thinks there should be no handicaps anyways so its a good thing.


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