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Alan07 08-04-2010 02:37 PM

8/7 (DMR): Clement L. Hirsch S. (G1)
 
9th (6:15) Clement L. Hirsch S. (G1)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Princess Taylor (GB) Espinoza V 119 L
2 Made for Magic Berrio O A 121 L
3 Spring Style (IRE) Valenzuela P A 119 L
4 Dance to My Tune Flores D R 119 L
5 Zenyatta Smith M E 123 L
6 Rinterval (IRE) Bejarano R 119 L

randallscott35 08-04-2010 02:40 PM

:wf

cmorioles 08-04-2010 02:47 PM

That field is an embarrassment to the sport.

cakes44 08-04-2010 02:58 PM

2 career stakes wins for the entire field other than Zenyatta? Did I count that right? No wonder they "adjusted" her training schedule so they could fit this one in.

tiggerv 08-04-2010 03:00 PM

It's even worse than the Santa Margarita. At least she had to give 16lbs to Dance to My Tune in that race. :wf

slotdirt 08-04-2010 03:00 PM

Who?

the_fat_man 08-04-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 678177)
That field is an embarrassment to the sport.

So you're in it for the sport, huh? :rolleyes:

slotdirt 08-04-2010 03:05 PM

I say this only half facetiously, but I'm pretty sure Peppers Pride could handle this group with ease.

TouchOfGrey 08-04-2010 03:07 PM

At least DelMar is giiving away pint glasses...



Antitrust32 08-04-2010 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 678171)
9th (6:15) Clement L. Hirsch S. (G1)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Princess Taylor (GB) Espinoza V 119 L
2 Made for Magic Berrio O A 121 L
3 Spring Style (IRE) Valenzuela P A 119 L
4 Dance to My Tune Flores D R 119 L
5 Zenyatta Smith M E 123 L
6 Rinterval (IRE) Bejarano R 119 L


weight for age? Was this ever a handicap? Z giving 2-4 pounds to these dogs is embarrassing.

the_fat_man 08-04-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 678192)
weight for age? Was this ever a handicap? Z giving 2-4 pounds to these dogs is embarrassing.

Not embarrassing enough for ANYBODY with a filly/mare that can outrun a POODLE on POLY to ship out there and take all the money. Guess the winner's share of $300k is just not enough to get all those with qualifying horses to ship out there. I mean, clearly, Z ain't much and she's getting free rides. :rolleyes:

I realize there are a lot of idiots in this industry but surely SOMEONE has a horse that can take that easy $180k home. What's stopping them? I know if I had a filly/mare, I'd ship her out there for some of what St. Trinians got ( i.e, a long vacation).

miraja2 08-04-2010 03:38 PM

The only possible good that could remotely come from RA and Zenyatta beating up on the fields of cows they've faced recently is that perhaps their win streaks and/or dominant victories would build interest for their eventual meeting against each other.
Unfortunately for that theory, neither of them wins in that dominant of a fashion this year....and there proably won't be a meeting anyway.
The Haskell last week and the Whitney this week are infinitely more interesting than anything the supposed superstars in the sport this year attempt. They both bore me.

ateamstupid 08-04-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey (Post 678191)
At least DelMar is giiving away pint glasses...



Gonna need a lot of refills in those to make this race seem interesting.

hockey2315 08-04-2010 03:50 PM

The horse Rachel beat at MTH would be 1/9 vs. this bunch w/o Z.

slotdirt 08-04-2010 04:03 PM

Is that really saying much? Anyway, whatever reasoning there was for upgrading this race from a G2 to a GI last year, it wasn't reasoning enough.

cakes44 08-04-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 678204)
Not embarrassing enough for ANYBODY with a filly/mare that can outrun a POODLE on POLY to ship out there and take all the money. Guess the winner's share of $300k is just not enough to get all those with qualifying horses to ship out there. I mean, clearly, Z ain't much and she's getting free rides. :rolleyes:

I realize there are a lot of idiots in this industry but surely SOMEONE has a horse that can take that easy $180k home. What's stopping them? I know if I had a filly/mare, I'd ship her out there for some of what St. Trinians got ( i.e, a long vacation).

I get your point, but I'm surprised no one wants an easy $60k for 2nd and the grade 1 placing. Heck Zito made Andromeda's Hero(among others) a millionaire doing it in the East.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-04-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 678171)
9th (6:15) Clement L. Hirsch S. (G1)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Princess Taylor (GB) Espinoza V 119 L
2 Made for Magic Berrio O A 121 L
3 Spring Style (IRE) Valenzuela P A 119 L
4 Dance to My Tune Flores D R 119 L
5 Zenyatta Smith M E 123 L
6 Rinterval (IRE) Bejarano R 119 L

Lets meet this star studded cast for another almost typical Zenyatta Grade 1 ....

#1 is Princess Taylor - she is currently on a 17 race losing streak and has never finished 1st or 2nd in eight career starts on synthetic. Winless since the year 2008, she does get a 4lbs weight break from Zenyatta

#2 is Made For Magic - she was claimed for $16,000 out of a race where she tanked in at Golden Gate less than one year. Since that time, she's risen to be a Grade 2 winner in Southern Cal. Less than 2 months ago she was beaten 21 lengths by Rachel Alexandra despite getting 7lbs in weight - she will only get 2lbs from Zenyatta. Omar Berrio will ride again.

#3 is Spring Style - She is 0-for-4 lifetime in stakes tries .. her last start was a 7th place finish at 11/1 odds in the restricted Osunitas Stakes at Del Mar less than two weeks ago. Back on short rest - and getting 4lbs from Zenyatta.

#4 is Dance To My Tune - She is a loser of 19 straight races - her last win coming in the year 2007. She was last seen running 7th in a field of 7 in the $62,000 Desert Stormer Stakes at Hollywood on June 12th. Will try and rebound off that last place here.

#5 is Zenyatta - She needs no introduction the world over ... even though she leaves California about as often as I leave Erie. Mike Smith has the call in her quest to go 18 for 18 over this star studded cast.

#6 is Rinterval - She has crossed the wire first just once in her last 20 career starts - however she has two wins in her last 20 starts. One coming at Turfway Park in a 50K stakes race, the other when she was smoked at Presque Isle Downs by Happy Wac ... however Happy Wac failed the post race drug test .. and was 3rd in a 5k N2L claiming race a few months later. Rinterval is in sharp form - she was 2nd in the Gr 3 Chicago Handicap at 33/1 odds last out behind Informed Decision.

GPK 08-04-2010 04:35 PM

Too bad Kickn N Screamin is retired. She coulda gave this group a run.

Thunder Gulch 08-04-2010 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 678222)
I get your point, but I'm surprised no one wants an easy $60k for 2nd and the grade 1 placing. Heck Zito made Andromeda's Hero(among others) a millionaire doing it in the East.

That's what I was thinking..5 years from now a yearling gets the tag "out of Grade 1 placed mare who ran second to Zenyatta"

Thunder Gulch 08-04-2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 678204)
Not embarrassing enough for ANYBODY with a filly/mare that can outrun a POODLE on POLY to ship out there and take all the money. Guess the winner's share of $300k is just not enough to get all those with qualifying horses to ship out there. I mean, clearly, Z ain't much and she's getting free rides. :rolleyes:

I realize there are a lot of idiots in this industry but surely SOMEONE has a horse that can take that easy $180k home. What's stopping them? I know if I had a filly/mare, I'd ship her out there for some of what St. Trinians got ( i.e, a long vacation).

Not as easy as you make it sound. Sure the competition sucks, but that trip over the Rockies is really tough.


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