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Kasept 11-22-2010 12:09 PM

11/25-26 (CD): Falls City H. (G2); Clark H. (G1)
 
11th (4:24) Falls City H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Dundalk Dust Bridgmohan S X 114 LA
2 Third Dawn Desormeaux K J 118 LA
3 Striking Dancer Leparoux J R 117 LA
4 Distinctive Dixie Albarado R J 120 LA
5 High Quail Castanon J L 115 LA
6 Ravi's Song Mena M 114 L

tjfla 11-23-2010 12:31 PM

FRIDAY 11th (5:42) Clark H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Dubious Miss Albarado R J 116 L
2 Apart Gomez G K 118 LA
3 Successful Dan Leparoux J R 121 L
4 Giant Oak Bridgmohan S X 115 LA
5 Redding Colliery Napravnik A R 117 LA
6 Brass Hat Farina T 116 L
7 Stately Victor Lebron V 116 LA
8 Win Willy Berry M C 116 LA
9 Regal Ransom Lenclud F 116 L
10 Demarcation Desormeaux K J 116 LA
11 Duke of Mischief Coa E M 116 L

hockey2315 11-23-2010 01:14 PM

Do we think Redding Colliery will be any semblance of a price?

randallscott35 11-23-2010 01:14 PM

Interesting clark

my miss storm cat 11-23-2010 02:22 PM

I haven't seen pp's yet or anything but, no matter who I play here, I'll be rooting for Brass Hat.

South Beach Luv 11-23-2010 02:45 PM

Wondering if it was the owner or trainer that took Jesse Campbell off Apart?

RockHardTen1985 11-23-2010 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 726584)
Do we think Redding Colliery will be any semblance of a price?

Yes he will be. You have Breeders Cup horses running. Apart and SD, Apart will def be the chalk. SD beat the Warrior over the track.
I think Redding is around 6-1.

NTamm1215 11-23-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by South Beach Luv (Post 726593)
Wondering if it was the owner or trainer that took Jesse Campbell off Apart?

I think Gomez is just getting Stall's top shelf horses. He is riding Aide in the Golden Rod on Saturday as well.

Campbell certainly didn't do anything wrong and neither did Jamie Theriot on Blame last year. They just want Gomez in big spots.

I think Redding Colliery will win and Successful Dan might be a decent bet against considering none of Charlie Lopresti's horses that seemed to be setting the world on fire in September and October have come back to run that great at CD (Turallure, Wise Dan, Here Comes Ben).

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 726595)
Yes he will be. You have Breeders Cup horses running. Apart and SD, Apart will def be the chalk. SD beat the Warrior over the track.
I think Redding is around 6-1.

I can't see him being 6-1. That win at Hawthorne looks awfully good in his PPs and the figure will stick out to people. I do agree that Successful Dan and Apart will be overbet to some extent.

RockHardTen1985 11-23-2010 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by South Beach Luv (Post 726593)
Wondering if it was the owner or trainer that took Jesse Campbell off Apart?

What about Jamie coming off Blame last year? JT rode him really well, no reasson to put Gomez on.

Dahoss 11-23-2010 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 726596)
I think Redding Colliery will win and Successful Dan might be a decent bet against considering none of Charlie Lopresti's horses that seemed to be setting the world on fire in September and October have come back to run that great at CD (Turallure, Wise Dan, Here Comes Ben).

Depending on how the race is bet, maybe Successful Dan is a bet against, but he was awful good last time. He has shown that he can handle dirt in the past and I just think he is better than Redding Colliery.

I don't think Turrallure or Wise Dan ran bad. Turrallure tired a bit late, but he made a nice move at the winner, who I think we both underrated. I thought Wise Dan ran pretty well all things considered. Here Comes Ben was awful, almost too bad to be true.

RockHardTen1985 11-23-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 726596)
I think Gomez is just getting Stall's top shelf horses. He is riding Aide in the Golden Rod on Saturday as well.

Campbell certainly didn't do anything wrong and neither did Jamie Theriot on Blame last year. They just want Gomez in big spots.

I think Redding Colliery will win and Successful Dan might be a decent bet against considering none of Charlie Lopresti's horses that seemed to be setting the world on fire in September and October have come back to run that great at CD (Turallure, Wise Dan, Here Comes Ben).



I can't see him being 6-1. That win at Hawthorne looks awfully good in his PPs and the figure will stick out to people. I do agree that Successful Dan and Apart will be overbet to some extent.


Redding Colliery is so much better then SD its really not even close. I cant see a situation where Successful Dan wins this race.

my miss storm cat 11-23-2010 06:37 PM

The pp's don't go back this far but I remember picking him (Redding Colliery) at least 3 times at Nad al Sheba and he disappointed me every time.

I need to let go of that! :D

PPs for anyone who needs them...

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html

dpkovalesky 11-24-2010 09:30 AM

surprised to see Redding Colliery at 10-1 on ML

randallscott35 11-24-2010 10:11 AM

You better Free Willy in here.

my miss storm cat 11-24-2010 12:24 PM

Hey if anyone is gonna be there (not likely, I know), please bring a camera!

(Please be advised I am in no way suggesting he should be the favorite or that he'll win. I may be sentimental but I also have a little bit of a grasp on reality). :D

Race 6 - 3:09 PM Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Pick 3 (Races 6-7-8)
STARTER ALLOWANCE $5,000

Purse $19,800. For Three Year Olds And Upward Which Have Started For A Claiming Price Of $5,000 Or Less In 2009-2010. Three Year Olds, 122 Lbs.; Older, 124 Lbs. Non-winners Of Two Races Since September 26 Allowed 2 Lbs. A Race Since Then Allowed 4 Lbs. (Races where entered for $5,000 or less not considered in allowances) (Highweights Preferred). Seven Furlongs.
P# PP Horse Virtual
Stable A/S Med Jockey Wgt Trainer M/L
1 1 Archie Trucker (KY) 4/G LA R B Homeister, Jr. 122 D J Alfir 6/1
2 2 Candid Image (MI) 6/G L A Canchano 120 G S McCarty 20/1
3 3 Cape Hatchet (CA) 5/G LA J L Castanon 122 J Woodard 9/2
4 4 B L's Tsumani (FL) 5/G L T L Pompell 122 S Manley 12/1
5 5 Badger Barry (KY) 6/H LA J R Leparoux 122 G D Foley 5/1
6 6 Santana Strings (FL) 8/H LA S Bridgmohan 120 S M Asmussen 7/2
7 7 Run With Eagles (KY) 4/G L L J Sterling, Jr. 122 S Manley 30/1
8 8 Ready's Rocket (KY) 7/G LA R Albarado 120 T Glyshaw 5/1
9 9 Northern Vow (KY) 6/G LA F Lenclud 120 G T Forster 15/1
10 10 Chance and a Half (AR) 5/G LA M C Berry 120 R Moquett 8/1
11 11 Doublefour (KY) 3/G LA J McKee 118 W R Connelly 20/1
12 12 Saviano (KY) 7/G L M C Baze 120 C Bowman 15/1

JJP 11-24-2010 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 726584)
Do we think Redding Colliery will be any semblance of a price?

I don't think he'll be over 4-1. He strung the field out 20-25 lengths at Hawthorne for most of the race. The deep track made the pace not seem as fast as it actually was.

RockHardTen1985 11-24-2010 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP (Post 727040)
I don't think he'll be over 4-1. He strung the field out 20-25 lengths at Hawthorne for most of the race. The deep track made the pace not seem as fast as it actually was.

A lot of these horses ALWAYS TAKE $. RC will be in the 5-1 to 6-1 range, and is the most likey winner of this race. Its him and Apart..... Then everyone else.

Sightseek 11-26-2010 04:48 PM

I think there was more bumping from start to finish than the Derby. :zz:

Sightseek 11-26-2010 05:02 PM

Ick. Giant Oak is a Grade 1 winner.

Redding Collary was roughed at start too.

Seattleallstar 11-26-2010 05:11 PM

****ing Giant Oak finally wins at a price
 
and i was off doing Black Friday bullshit, arghh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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